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 Post subject: ANGRY GAY POPE'S PROTEST VIDEO
PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:25 pm 
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First one in months and months!

http://youtu.be/OGdEEq10CdQ

Wanna watch gown ups run away like stupid kids? Protesters Angry Gay Pope and Gymbo (Jim-bow) celebrate cult founder Hubbard's 101st birthday at Scientology's main base. We waited for buses to show up to take cultists to the Shrine Auditorium for the Birthday Bash. The goal was to confront cultists on the street and prevent the buses from loading on public property as they usually do.

Meanwhile many cultists were highly "enturbulated" and ran away from our Guy Fawkes masks! Several cultists with suitcases chained to their arms were seen (a rare sight).

WHAT YOU DIDN'T SEE: About 30 Scientologists snuck out of one building in a group and ran into another in an attempt to avoid protester Gymbo. Also, an Asian Sci saw us coming and went down a flight of steps to open a door which had been sealed shut and removed years ago. She tried to turn a knob that wasn't there and then was forced to slink back up and run into the building through another entrance.

After this event the buses took cultists to the Shrine where they met five more protesters, one of whom was arrested. For what happens next watch the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-XMj7s9 ... ure=colike ...


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 Post subject: Re: Protest of LRH Birthday event at the Shrine, 3/17
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:06 am 
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Most of the orgs will have the LRH birthday celebration on March 24.

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 Post subject: Re: Protest of LRH Birthday event at the Shrine, 3/17
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:43 am 
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Gymbo, you worked hard and needled them good, though you should have left off the "dyke haircut" and the "old man" taunts. Don't let them play the victim card. Next time, don't chase a woman down the street to offer her back her dropped pen. Someone could burst out and tackle you, and the security cameras could paint you as stalking her, and mysteriously stop filming when the guy tackles you.

You did a good job of poking a hole in their Miscavige-must-never-be criticized bubble.


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 Post subject: Re: Protest of LRH Birthday event at the Shrine, 3/17
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:12 am 
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Don Carlo wrote:
Gymbo, you worked hard and needled them good, though you should have left off the "dyke haircut" and the "old man" taunts. Don't let them play the victim card. Next time, don't chase a woman down the street to offer her back her dropped pen. Someone could burst out and tackle you, and the security cameras could paint you as stalking her, and mysteriously stop filming when the guy tackles you.
It's wise not to follow, harass or make disparaging comments of female Scilons. period, especially when they're walking with a child.
The cult can easily set you up on flimsy charges.


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 Post subject: Re: Protest of LRH Birthday event at the Shrine, 3/17
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:13 am 
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Don Carlo wrote:
Gymbo, you worked hard and needled them good, though you should have left off the "dyke haircut" and the "old man" taunts. Don't let them play the victim card. Next time, don't chase a woman down the street to offer her back her dropped pen. Someone could burst out and tackle you, and the security cameras could paint you as stalking her, and mysteriously stop filming when the guy tackles you.

You did a good job of poking a hole in their Miscavige-must-never-be criticized bubble.


I'm not Gymbo and I already know the rules. They have sued me in 2008 for following you think I don't get distance issues? I'm a big man and if they were going jump out and tackle me they would have done it some time in the previous four years (as they have done at that location to protester Anonorange who was attacked). Do your friggin homework buddy I'm the Angry Gay Pope not Gymbo the newbie![/size]


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 Post subject: Re: Protest of LRH Birthday event at the Shrine, 3/17
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Smurf wrote:
It's wise not to follow, harass or make disparaging comments of female Scilons. period, especially when they're walking with a child.
The cult can easily set you up on flimsy charges.


I didn't follow them, harass them or make disparaging comments about them, unless warnings are considered disparaging.

I already know what I need to do just as Moxon knows that filmsy charges don't work with the Angry Gay Pope, he wants to go to court!

Moxon's angle here is that I make loud noises which disrupt religious services. I didn't shout at this protest at big blue, merely talked loudly. Why loudly? Because you have to fight to be heard above the bus engines!


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 Post subject: Re: Protest of LRH Birthday event at the Shrine, 3/17
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:48 pm 
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AngryGayPope wrote:
I'm not Gymbo and I already know the rules. They have sued me in 2008 for following you think I don't get distance issues? I'm a big man and if they were going jump out and tackle me they would have done it some time in the previous four years (as they have done at that location to protester Anonorange who was attacked). Do your friggin homework buddy I'm the Angry Gay Pope not Gymbo the newbie![/size]
Uhh.. the email was addressed to the anon that was with you, AGP. Why are you responding like it was addressed to you?


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 Post subject: Re: Protest of LRH Birthday event at the Shrine, 3/17
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:50 pm 
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AngryGayPope wrote:
Smurf wrote:
It's wise not to follow, harass or make disparaging comments of female Scilons. period, especially when they're walking with a child. The cult can easily set you up on flimsy charges.
I didn't follow them, harass them or make disparaging comments about them, unless warnings are considered disparaging.
Again, this wasn't addressed to you. It was some advice to a new protester.


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 Post subject: Re: Protest of LRH Birthday event at the Shrine, 3/17
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Smurf wrote:
Uhh.. the email was addressed to the anon that was with you, AGP. Why are you responding like it was addressed to you?


Because I'm the one who talked about the dyke hair and old man taunts.


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 Post subject: Re: Protest of LRH Birthday event at the Shrine, 3/17
PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:23 am 
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The "non confront" on the part of the $cientologists speaks volumes IMO. It reminds me of Forrest Gump.."Just run away". I don't see anything wrong with expressing an interest in communicating with them, even though it was obvious that the interest was not mutual.


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 Post subject: Re: Protest of LRH Birthday event at the Shrine, 3/17
PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:37 pm 
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Those of us who are former members of the $cientology organization, especially those of us who have been staff members for that organization have empathy for those who remain involved with it. I think on the whole that is the case. For myself there are a few individuals that I have had dealings with within the so called church that I would be extremely reluctant to ever trust again and that I would never want to be friends with. I think that other former members may have that attitude towards a few people and it tends to come through in communications from former members. At the same time since we are former members and on the whole I think we have a very good understanding of how those who remain in are exploited and abused. I'm sticking my neck out speaking for former members in general because my personal view may not be representative.

As former members (and critics) it is difficult to engage those who are involved in the so called church in dialogue because the organization's leaders (L. Ron Hubbard and David Miscavige) demonize former members (and critics) to those members for whom those leaders have influence.

I've been in and under the influence. I'm now out and have read many books on the subjects related to $cientology and cults that those who are in and under the influence are not allowed to read. I think many, if not most, former members have to varying extents also deprogrammed themselves by reading on the subjects and by talking to others who have been in and are now out. When engaging in dialogue (if it ever does happen) we, former members, are not very likely to be influenced by what those who are still in may have to say about their experiences in the so called church. When engaging in a dialogue with those who are still in (as infrequently as that is likely to happen) if influence does occur it is most often, if not always, from the former member to the one who is still in.

When that occurs, the desired result is that the person who is still in, begins to look at the organization differently than how they have looked at it under the manipulation of the organization's leaders. When that happens the next thing that usually happens is that such a person leaves the organization, stops supporting it and stops being abused and manipulated by it. With $cientology, when that happens, the predictable response from the so called church is the issue of a suppressive person declaration, fair gaming, vilification, demonization, and denigration of the former member.

Do I love the people who remain involved in $cientology? Not really but I do empathize with them. I would like them to be free of the manipulation and abuse they suffer as members of that organization. At the same time I am prepared to defend myself should any of them attempt any kind of fair game action that I detect toward me.

As to critics and activists who have not been in $cientology, they amaze me. I can't get over how people who have not been under the influence and abused by that organization can take an interest in it and work to do something about that influence and abuse.

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 Post subject: Re: Protest of LRH Birthday event at the Shrine, 3/17
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Why dont scilons ever look happy?


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 Post subject: Re: Protest of LRH Birthday event at the Shrine, 3/17
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brownjedi wrote:
Why dont scilons ever look happy?


Good question. "The Way to Happiness" doen't seem to be working for them. Also, STCC (Success Through Communication Course) doesn't seem to be helping them either. And The "Bridge to Total Freedom" is only making them slaves of $cientology. But according to the culties, all of it "works".


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 Post subject: Re: Protest of LRH Birthday event at the Shrine, 3/17
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Good question. "The Way to Happiness" doen't seem to be working for them. Also, STCC (Success Through Communication Course) doesn't seem to be helping them either. And The "Bridge to Total Freedom" is only making them slaves of $cientology. But according to the culties, all of it "works".


After leaving protests or seeing video of protests, I can only wonder what they think of their Communication course. If they did not FLUNK, do they wonder why their communication with critics is failing?


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 Post subject: Re: Protest of LRH Birthday event at the Shrine, 3/17
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brownjedi wrote:
Why dont scilons ever look happy?


Because two o'clock on Thursday is coming.

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