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 Post subject: Re: Scilon handlers on Facebook
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:58 pm 
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Dorothy wrote:
Then be honest and simply state your reasons for your inability or unwillingness to answer/debate without such implication whether intended or not. It is your choice not to debate me. No one is twisting your arm.

The only part of my anatomy which is being contorted is my ear, which you seem determined to bend!

I'm calling it a day. As you say it's my choice whether I engage in debate with you or not, and I'm sorry but I'm exercising that choice.


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 Post subject: Re: Scilon handlers on Facebook
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:03 pm 
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No need to apologize for it.


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 Post subject: Re: Scilon handlers on Facebook
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:20 pm 
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Dorothy wrote:
No need to apologize for it.
In all honesty, Dorothy, you're a prime candidate for anger counseling & therapy. It's sad really.


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 Post subject: Re: Scilon handlers on Facebook
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:42 pm 
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Mark Miglio, OSA volunteer, who's taken a liking to Tony O's articles in the Village Voice, and posts endless comments attacking them, has taken to Facebook.

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https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1100390768


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 Post subject: Re: Scilon handlers on Facebook
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:42 pm 
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Used husband for sale, ha ha.


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 Post subject: Re: Scilon handlers on Facebook
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:11 pm 
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Smurf wrote:
Dorothy wrote:
No need to apologize for it.
In all honesty, Dorothy, you're a prime candidate for anger counseling & therapy. It's sad really.

Thanks for the advice, Fiona. :lol:

In all honesty, Smurf, you probably shouldn't be diagnosing people's mental states without a license. That's kinda what the scilons do. :|


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 Post subject: Re: Scilon handlers on Facebook
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:32 pm 
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Smurf wrote:
Mark Miglio, OSA volunteer, who's taken a liking to Tony O's articles in the Village Voice, and posts endless comments attacking them, has taken to Facebook.


I never really get used to that cult stare, it's so startling and sad.


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 Post subject: Re: Scilon handlers on Facebook
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:49 pm 
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Is that an IPhone in his hand? Mark, Google "David Miscavige."


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 Post subject: Re: Scilon handlers on Facebook
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:20 am 
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Dorothy wrote:
Smurf wrote:
Dorothy wrote:
No need to apologize for it.
In all honesty, Dorothy, you're a prime candidate for anger counseling & therapy. It's sad really.
In all honesty, Smurf, you probably shouldn't be diagnosing people's mental states without a license. That's kinda what the scilons do. :|
In all honesty, Dorothy, it's offering an observation & opinion and it's kinda what Scilons and non-Scilons do. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Scilon handlers on Facebook
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:32 am 
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I'mglib wrote:
Finally, to set the record straight, the last time some people were banned (not suspended) was when Roan was moderator--for posting gore and porn, which isn't specifically in the FAQ. There has been one suspension since.

Uuhhhh, since you're referring to "the record" and mention me; let me set the record straight (since it is my record that you are citing). You're wrong about this. Yes, people were banned for posting gore. And I also banned two other accounts who were actively plotting, planning and seeking others to help carry out the actual physical destruction/removal of this site from the web. This wasn't just "big scary" talk on other message boards; I was following the actual plans and discussions taking place in what the conspirators (mistakenly) thought was a secure, private "chan" that they had set up. In another communication channel I was not able to penetrate, an ally of mine was there, reporting to me the same conspiracy I was following. So I dropped the hammer... and no, I didn't bother to check the FAQ's :roll: before doing so. lol

^^ from the Now It Can Be Told Dept. ^^

I'm curious about the one suspension (since me) that you mention. Was that Ladybird (one of the most effective critics to ever stroke a keyboard) getting banned for telling the truth to perpetual pest Fluffy?!?
That would be a feather I would NOT want in MY cap!!! lol

I logged on a couple days ago and went straight to this thread because it interested me. I was very disappointed (but not surprised) to see extensive Moderator words in Smurf's OP. ??wtf?? That's really icky and I know the mods here can do better than that.

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 Post subject: Re: Scilon handlers on Facebook
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:53 pm 
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Smurf wrote:
Dorothy wrote:
No need to apologize for it.
In all honesty, Dorothy, you're a prime candidate for anger counseling & therapy. It's sad really.

Dear Smurf,

You leveled an obvious mean-spirited insult at me, then you altered reality by using the euphemism “observation and opinion”.

I totally get where you’re coming from now. It is as I suspected.

It’s too bad that you’re so butt-hurt from being censored to the point where you cannot even coherently discuss the matter, all you can do is hurl insults much like a child who’s been reprimanded. Maybe if you wouldn’t push the envelope so much you would not do things that get you banned from mbs. But like a child, you love being the center of attention, I guess. That’s quite obvious to me. That’s my “observation and opinion”. I hope you can afford me the same “free speech” rights which you seem to enjoy so much.

And Smurf, I hope you will not continue to misrepresent my sarcasm as anger.

So all I can say to you is, at least try and be adult enough to stay within the rules set for this board:
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This message board has very simple rules:

You are to behave polite and friendly here (just adding a lot of smilies is not enough). Use netiquette.

When writing your messages, please use the same courtesy that you would show when speaking face-to-face with someone.

Flames, insults, and personal attacks will not be tolerated. It's fine to disagree strongly with opinions, ideas, and facts, but always with respect for the other person. Great minds do not always think alike.

Don't publish private messages without approval from all involved.

We promote one of the most difficult "martial arts": BYT - Bite Your Tongue. It is easy to snap back at someone, but much more effective to rise above them.

If what you have to say is not constructive and positive, then there are many other places on the 'Net for you to post it. Or you BYT.

Smurf, I never worked for OSA like you did so I never got to practice the Art of How To Dead Agent someone. I hope that some day you will realize that all the tricks you learned from your extensive OSA work are unacceptable in any context, no matter which side you are on: which brings us back full circle to what happened on this thread. Going after Scilon handlers’ family members was too close to the practice of Fair Game. I guess you were unable to grasp that point. Which was why I asked you the question: what was it about those family members that you wanted to discuss? How did deleting the pic and your attempt to I.D. those family members infringe upon your right to speak? But unfortunately you couldn’t answer that beyond explaining how you were making a “funny” about their shirts and how the mods have no sense of humor, and so they should not be mods etc., baw baw.

If you really think I am as messed-up, crazy, or whatever (just add latest insult), then perhaps you could apply Andreas’s recommendation in that situation:
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It is easy to snap back at someone, but much more effective to rise above them.

and “rise above”. I’m assuming that you want to be effective, beyond being effective at being hurtful towards others.

I'm not trying to hurt you Smurf. I'm trying to get you to take a look at what it is you're doing. You've had plenty of opportunity to explain. Now we'll see if you will continue to defend your right to throw a rock along with your right to not have to offer a coherent explanation for why you need to throw rocks.


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 Post subject: Re: Scilon handlers on Facebook
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:43 pm 
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Is someone throwing rocks? I missed that bit. And the hyperbolic flying. I missed that too. I think it went over my head.

Did someone go after some scilon family members? I think I must've missed that. Did someone fail to explain that they should have the right to repost images publicly available on facebook? I guess I missed that too.

Funny what you miss when you're not Dorothy.


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 Post subject: Re: Scilon handlers on Facebook
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:07 pm 
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kitty wrote:
Is someone throwing rocks? I missed that bit. And the hyperbolic flying. I missed that too. I think it went over my head.

Did someone go after some scilon family members? I think I must've missed that. Did someone fail to explain that they should have the right to repost images publicly available on facebook? I guess I missed that too.

Funny what you miss when you're not Dorothy.

Dear kitty,

I doubt that you really have a problem understanding metaphors. If I wrote to you:

In all honesty, kitty, you're a prime candidate for anger counseling & therapy. It's sad really.

-How would that make you feel?

Referring to that kind of personal attack as "throwing a rock" is really not that big of a stretch, for most people anyway.

If you will just scroll up a bit kitty, you'll notice the long list of quotes I collected about how the mods are tyrants, bottom feeders, drunk with power, should not be mods, etc. Yes I do think those cries were over the top for the censorship of a pic that apparently really meant nothing more to Smurf than some sort of little "joke".

Yes kitty, doing "research" by posting pics and attempting to I.D. family members for no other reason than for fun is, yes, imo "going after" them. If I tried to I.D. your children or family members, posted pics of them, for fun, you really would not feel like I was going after them? If I made the excuse saying that I just wanted to answer someone's question about "why Hawaiian shirts", would that be worth it to you to have your family members exposed, say on Freedumb Mag's website?

Maybe if you would just open your eyes kitty, you wouldn't miss these simple, obvious things.

And how many times are you going to state with such certainty that you will no longer debate me on this thread, and then continue to debate me?

Some advice for you kitty: get to know yourself better.


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 Post subject: Re: Scilon handlers on Facebook
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:28 pm 
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Dorothy wrote:
kitty wrote:
Is someone throwing rocks? I missed that bit. And the hyperbolic flying. I missed that too. I think it went over my head.

Did someone go after some scilon family members? I think I must've missed that. Did someone fail to explain that they should have the right to repost images publicly available on facebook? I guess I missed that too.

Funny what you miss when you're not Dorothy.

Dear kitty,

I doubt that you really have a problem understanding metaphors. If I wrote to you:

In all honesty, kitty, you're a prime candidate for anger counseling & therapy. It's sad really.

-How would that make you feel?

Referring to that kind of personal attack as "throwing a rock" is really not that big of a stretch, for most people anyway.

If you will just scroll up a bit kitty, you'll notice the long list of quotes I collected about how the mods are tyrants, bottom feeders, drunk with power, should not be mods, etc. Yes I do think those cries were over the top for the censorship of a pic that apparently really meant nothing more to Smurf than some sort of little "joke".

Yes kitty, doing "research" by posting pics and attempting to I.D. family members for no other reason than for fun is, yes, imo "going after" them. If I tried to I.D. your children or family members, posted pics of them, for fun, you really would not feel like I was going after them? If I made the excuse saying that I just wanted to answer someone's question about "why Hawaiian shirts", would that be worth it to you to have your family members exposed, say on Freedumb Mag's website?

Maybe if you would just open your eyes kitty, you wouldn't miss these simple, obvious things.

And how many times are you going to state with such certainty that you will no longer debate me on this thread, and then continue to debate me?

Some advice for you kitty: get to know yourself better.

It sounds like everyone that disagrees with you needs to take anger counseling & therapy. Now that is what is really sad. Where did kitty or anyone else say "doing "research" by posting pics and attempting to I.D. family members for no other reason than for fun is, yes, imo "going after" them."??? I can shhow you just in this thread where people including I have stated lagitimate reasons for posting this info that have nothing to do with the reasons you have fabercated in your head. Ohhhh, I get it, we are stupid Wogs that can't be trusted with Publicly Available Information because you have decided we will use it in a manor you personally don't agree with. WOW you really think highly of others, don't you?

Fact: this info is PUBLIC and you can't change that can you?
Fact: Now matter how much you rave and froth at the mouth you can't stop others from disagreeing with you.
Fact: Call people all the names you like it does not change the nature of the issue that people have with Mods deleating post and pics that do not violate the TOS or law.


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 Post subject: Re: Scilon handlers on Facebook
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:59 pm 
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Radio Paul wrote:
It sounds like everyone that disagrees with you needs to take anger counseling & therapy. Now that is what is really sad. Where did kitty or anyone else say "doing "research" by posting pics and attempting to I.D. family members for no other reason than for fun is, yes, imo "going after" them."??? I can shhow you just in this thread where people including I have stated lagitimate reasons for posting this info that have nothing to do with the reasons you have fabercated in your head. Ohhhh, I get it, we are stupid Wogs that can't be trusted with Publicly Available Information because you have decided we will use it in a manor you personally don't agree with. WOW you really think highly of others, don't you?

Fact: this info is PUBLIC and you can't change that can you?
Fact: Now matter how much you rave and froth at the mouth you can't stop others from disagreeing with you.
Fact: Call people all the names you like it does not change the nature of the issue that people have with Mods deleating post and pics that do not violate the TOS or law.
U R confused. Smurf was the one who wrote:

Smurf wrote:
Dorothy wrote:
No need to apologize for it.
In all honesty, Dorothy, you're a prime candidate for anger counseling & therapy. It's sad really.

(wasn't me)

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Where did kitty or anyone else say "doing "research" by posting pics and attempting to I.D. family members for no other reason than for fun is, yes, imo "going after" them."???

No one "said" that. It is what happened.

NONE of you are stupid wogs, I do not think that.

It would be great if people would actually disagree with me instead of attack, insinuate, make insults, etc.

Actually, I love it when people disagree with me. How else would I ever get to hone my debate skillz? You definitely got that one wrong. My father was the great debater and I believe I inherited something of that from him. After I left scientology and got back in touch with him, I learned to appreciate that part of him.

I have no problem with this board. In fact, I love everything about this board. That is why I defended it against the attack which you and others made upon it. Unlike you and 1 or 2 others, I have no problem with the rules here or the mods. So it is I who have disagreed with you and Smurf (on that point) and for that I have been personally attacked.

I'm sorry you don't like me, Mr. Radio Paul. But I'm not here to be liked. I'm here because I have something to say. If you disagree with some specific point I have made, would you please quote it and state clearly your disagreement, and I'll be happy to discuss it with you.


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