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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:29 pm 
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In another thread, I asked about a Hubbard quote I remembered that turns out was from Hubbard's "Admissions."z
Wieber dug up the quote for me! :)

http://www.ronthenut.org/admissio.pdf

Question: does the cult view "Admissions" as valid LRH "scripture"?

I wonder if many Scientologists know about it and if they do, what they think.

I mean, on the one hand it sounds like some, For His Eyes Only stuff. Or did he think he was writing something that he meant for people to live by?

I was also interested in his repeated references teo his "Guardian."

It reminds me of his time with Parsons -- either way, it seems likely that the Guardian's Office was a reference tor the "Guardian" he speaks of.

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 Post subject: Re: Hubbard's Admissions
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skeptic2girl wrote:
Question: does the cult view "Admissions" as valid LRH "scripture"?

I mean, on the one hand it sounds like some, For His Eyes Only stuff. Or did he think he was writing something that he meant for people to live by?

No, they don't. Like much of what posterity has saved for all to see, Scientology wishes that LRH's affirmations had remained private. They are not Dianetics or Scientology in any way. They are in fact road-maps to Hubbards' own "un-handled case." For example:
"Testosterone blends easily with your own hormones. Your glands already make plenty of needed testosterone and by adding to that store you make yourself very thrilling and sexy. Testosterone increases your sexual interest and activity. It makes erections easier and harder and makes your own joy more intense. Stilbesterol in 5 mg doses makes you thrill more to music and color and makes you kinder."
We learn here that Hubbard was impotent and rather than turning to engrams or OT powers, Hubbard simply took drugs to address his sexual frustrations and many mood imbalances.

"You have no fear of what any woman may think of your bed conduct. You know you are a master. You know they will be thrilled. You can come many times without weariness. The act does not reduce your vitality or brain power at all. You can come several times and still write."
Here, LRH is projecting. He is visualizing what he would like to be like (sexually). Women must have complained of his "bed conduct." Here he is seeking to "Super-Power" his selfish fucking.

"Intercourse does not hurt your chest or make you sore. Your arms are strong and do not ache in the act."
Here, Hubbard is telling us that intercourse makes him sore, his chest hurts, and his arms get weak and ache. In some of his other "admissions" he tells us that he was traumatized by a doctor pointing out that his left testicle hung too low! :lol:
And that the bedsprings that (invariably) squeak during coitus are also like Kryptonite for his boner! :shock: ...I kid you not!

skeptic2girl wrote:
I was also interested in his repeated references teo his "Guardian." It reminds me of his time with Parsons -- either way, it seems likely that the Guardian's Office was a reference tor the "Guardian" he speaks of. Thoughts?

My memory is foggy here. The "guardian" he was referring to is either Raonne or Flavia. I forget which. Swift and I have written about both on this message board; the answers are here. Flavia was a enigmatic woman/sexual spirit guide that Hubbard had a traumatic instance of sexual failure - sexual horror with.

All in all, I'd have to say it seems obvious that LRH was a basket case on his 2D.


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 Post subject: Re: Hubbard's Admissions
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 12:33 am 
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Everything that Hubbard wrote, except for his works of fiction, is a valid Scientology Scripture, as I was told on many occasions when I was in Sea Org. I was asking this question because in the Dianetics book Hubbard wrote that Dianetics self-auditing is a valid procedure, although the official Church policy prohibits self-auditing. I was trying to resolve this contradiction, but soon realized that it cannot be resolved.

Vast majority of the Scientologists have not heard about Admissions because this piece of shit does not have direct connection to the Bridge, and it is not a required reading. Hubbard wrote a lot of crap that was not republished due to the Gold Era’s very limited publishing capability, which is the main reason why only 10% of his work is known to his followers.

What if a female CoS member reads Admissions? Probably, she will be appalled by it, but will find a justification for writing it, as the Scientologists always do.

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 Post subject: Re: Hubbard's Admissions
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skeptic2girl wrote:
I was also interested in his repeated references teo his "Guardian." It reminds me of his time with Parsons -- either way, it seems likely that the Guardian's Office was a reference tor the "Guardian" he speaks of. Thoughts?

My memory is foggy here. The "guardian" he was referring to is either Raonne or Flavia. I forget which. Swift and I have written about both on this message board; the answers are here. Flavia was a enigmatic woman/sexual spirit guide that Hubbard had a traumatic instance of sexual failure - sexual horror with.

All in all, I'd have to say it seems obvious that LRH was a basket case on his 2D.


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"The “guardian” is a reference to Hubbard’s Guardian Angel who does not have a name. Yes, Hubbard believed in God and Guardian Angels, strange as it may be.
I quoted several passages from Hubbard’s diary at the thread Hubbard’s Dirty Laundry. There Hubbard talks about his relation with God and his love of his Guardian Angel."
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 Post subject: Re: Hubbard's Admissions
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viewtopic.php?f=9&t=31906&p=383003&hilit=Flavia#p383003

In the second post down, near the tarot card for temperance, there is mention of the Flavia as Guardian Angel.

Lots of interesting threads on all of this stuff! I didn't search for Raonne, though, just Flavia.

re: traumatic sexual experience with Flavia...

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=24094&p=278040&hilit=Flavia#p278040

Someone posting as Dr. Juan Gabriel mentions it has to do with a soup can?!

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 Post subject: Re: Hubbard's Admissions
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Soderqvist1: Ron told Frater Belarion (Jack Parsons) the name of his Gardian Angel!

Affirmations Chapter Course II by L. Ron Hubbard 1947
The most thrilling thing in your life is your love and consciousness of your Guardian. She materializes for you. You have no doubts of her. She is real. She is always with you. You love her very much. You trust her. You see and hear her. She has copper red hair, long braids, a lovely Venusian face, a white gown belted with jade squares. She wears gold slippers. Thus you see her.
http://www.holysmoke.org/ga/ga07.htm

A Piece of Blue Sky chapter his Magical Career
In the same letter, parsons spoke of Hubbard's guardian angel again: "Ron appears to have some sort of highly developed astral vision. He described his angel as a beautiful winged woman with red hair, whom he calls the Empress, and who has guided him through his life and saved him many times .... Recently, he says, because of some danger, she has called the Archangel Michael to guard us.
http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/apobs/bs2-6.htm


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Soderqvist1: I suppose that the Engel to the left is his Guardian, and the Angel to the right is Archangel Michael!
I have a whole thread here about his Affirmations!
http://www.scnforum.org/index.php?t=msg ... e72baa6598

And his conection with Jack Parssons!
http://www.scnforum.org/index.php?t=msg ... e72baa6598

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 Post subject: Re: Hubbard's Admissions
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:43 am 
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He sure does blab on about scamming the navy in his Admissions. Let's get started again...

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 Post subject: Re: Hubbard's Admissions
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Peter, the red-headed winged empress is from a Tarot deck; this is discussed on page 2 of The Golden Bough: Me-the-Magician practices aren't religion
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37805&p=406628


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 Post subject: Re: Hubbard's Admissions
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Don Carlo wrote in the link above!

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Hubbard as usual took someone else's image as his own personal fantasy: The Empress, winged and redheaded, a card in one Tarot card deck popular in the 1940's: He might have picked her and exaggerated her importance to impress Parsons.
viewtopic.php?p=406628#p406628


Soderqvist1: it seems to me that this is half of the story!
The other half is that he dabbled in the occult in the thirties and the forties and he saw the empress card an other things and “began to see her” because he suffered from paranoid schizophrenia, and the occult made him worse! Look at the evidence!

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Jack Parssons Letters to Cameron 25 Jan 50
I have the text of Dee's skrying in the 7th Aire, as he said "so terrified me that, beseeching God to have mercy upon me, I finally answer that I will from this day forward meddle no more herein." The voice, speaking from Kelly, resulted in a sinister dissociation of Kelly's personality. The parallel with my own working with Ron is appalling. After this Kelly robbed Dee, absconded with his wife, and developed a criminal confidence career. This is the voice: "I am the daughter of Fortitude. (La Force = Babalon) and ravished every hour from my youth. For behold, I am Understanding, and Science dwelleth in me; and the heavens oppress me. They cover and desire me with infinite appetite; few or none that are earthly have embraced me, for I am shadowed with the Circle of the Stars, and covered with the morning clouds.

My feet are swifter than the winds, and my hands are sweeter than the morning dew. My garments are from the beginning, and my dwelling place is in myself. The Lion knoweth not where I walk, neither do the beasts of the field understand me. I am deflowered, yet a virgin, I sanctifie and am not sanctified. Happy is he that embraceth me: for in the night season I am sweet, and in the day full of pleasure. My company is a harmony of many symbols, and my lips are sweeter than health itself. I am a harlot for such as ravish me, and a virgin with such as know me not. Purge your streets, O ye sons of men, and wash your houses clean; make yourselves holy, and put on righteousness. Cast out your old strumpets, and burn their clothes and then I will come and dwell amongst you; and behold, I will bring forth children unto you, and they shall be the Sons of Comfort in the Age that is to come."

In view of the fact that this MSS was unknown to Hubbard and I [sic], the parallelism is really extraordinary. I have found another prophecy in Khaled Khan which I shall send later.
http://web.archive.org/web/200402110829 ... mltrs.html

Hubbard and the Occult by Jon Atack
In conclusion, I believe that Hubbard was a classic psychopath. Some trauma in infancy separated him from the world and made him unstrusting of other people. This developed into a paranoia, a need to control others. He created a dissociated world, inhabited by the Empress. Bear in mind that he actually saw the Empress in full colour, and that she spoke to him (108). From his comments about automatic writing and speaking, it could be averred that Hubbard was in fact "channeling" the Empress. Hubbard separated off a compartment of himself calling it the Empress and gave in to its urgings. He lived a life of dreadful contradiction. He claimed expertise in all things, but factually was a failure at most. Some will see him as having a psychiatric complaint, others will believe that he invoked the very devil, or Babalon, and was possessed. Hubbard's own belief lives on with all of its contradictions in his teachings. Ultimately, as Fritz Haack put it, Scientology is twentieth-century magic.
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/j/occult.html


Soderqvist1: L. Ron Hubbard did know that it was something wrong with him after the War as can be seen in his Bolivar Policy!

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Exhibit 25 - RESPONSIBILITIES OF LEADERS -Section on "seven things about power, "HCO PL 12 February 1967 Bolivars Errors
Not to compare with Bolivar but to show my understanding of this: I once had a similar one.
"I would keep going as long as I could and when I was 'stopped I would then die." This was a solution mild enough to state and really hard to understand until you had an' inkling of what I meant by keeping going. Meteors keep going—very, very fast. And so did I. Then one day ages back, I finally was stopped after countless little stoppings by social contacts an family to prepare me, culminating in a navy more devoted to braid than dead enemies and literally I quit. For a while I couldn't get a clue of what was wrong with me. Life went completely unlivable until I found a new solution. So I know the frailty of these single solutions. Not to compare myself but just to show it happens to us all, not just Bolivars
http://www.scribd.com/doc/80501927/Kyle ... 7-Sep-2010


Soderqvist1: He wrote to the Veteran Administration 1947 and begged for psychiatric treatment because he was suicidal!
http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/beg.htm

Soderqvist1: Senior Psychiatrist Ulf Brettstam has analyzed his inner thought, and this is a quote from part of his analysis of his Guardian angel

Quote:
LRH: The purpose of this experiment is to re-establish the ambition, willpower, desire to survive, the talent and confidence of myself.

UB: Hubbard finds himself in total despair. No strength, no will to live, talentless and without self-esteem. This indicates a moderate to severe depression. He seem honest and is trying to get a grip of himself and life as a whole.

LRH: To accomplish the above the following fears must be removed

UB: Making a to do list. Structured mind.

LRH: Jack is also an adept. You love and respect him as a friend. He cannot take offense at what you do. You will not wrong him because you love him. The most thrilling thing in your life is your love and consciousness of your Guardian. She materializes for you. You have no doubts of her. She is real. She is always with you. You love her very much. You trust her. You see and hear her. She is not your master. You have a mighty spiritual will of your own. She is an advisor and as such is respected by you. She is wise and worthy and never changes shape. Your faith in her as in God is blind and unshaken ever.

UB: More evidence of visual and auditive hallucinations.

LRH: She is interested in you and amused by you. She does not criticize you. She does not frown on your sexual acts but advises you on better game.

UB: The auditive hallucinations in schizophrenia are either commentary or commanding in
nature. Often negative and degrading in content and commands of selfharm, suicide or hurting others. Hubbards "inner voice" was obviously female.


Soderqvist1: senior psychiatrist Ulf Brettstam from Sweden has even analyses is inner thought in 1947 when he fired on the Mexican coast!

Quote:
LRH: I carried this fear of the disease to sea with me. I was reprimanded in San Diego in mid-43 for firing on the Mexican coast and was removed from command of my ship. This on top of having sunk two Japsubs without credit, the way my crew lied for me at the Court of Inquiry, the insults of the High Command, all combined to put me in the hospital with ulcers.

UB: Firing on the Mexican coast? To what purpose? Could very well indicate a short psychotic break with delusions and/or visual hallucinations. Did he or did he not sink any Jap sub? If not , he is still delusional. Not being credited for the alleged event and removed from the ship, indicates the latter . One would expect the US navy to have the facts and therefore the removal of LRH as a rational decision. Accusing the crew of lying and the High Command of insults , must be considered as evidence of his deteriorated mental state of paranoia.

LRH: I returned to sea as navigator of a large ship and was subsequently selected for the Military Government School at Princeton whither I went in 1944-45 for three months. During my Princeton sojourn I was very tired and harrassed (sp?) and spent week-ends with a writer friend in Philadelphia. He almost forced me to sleep with his wife. Meanwhile I had a affair with a woman named Ferne. Somehow, perhaps because I had constantly wet feet and no sleep at Princeton, I contracted a staphloceus infection. I mistook it for gonnhorea and until I arrived at Monterey, believed my old illness had returned. I consulted a doctor there who reassured me. This affair again depressed my libido. The staphloceus infection has not entirely vanished, appearing as rheumatism which only small doses of stilbestrol will remove. The hormone further reduces my libido and I am nearly impotent.

UB: His fatigue and perception of being harrassed in combination with hypochondria and reduced libido certainly strenghtens the suggestion of further development of his paranoic schizophrenia.

UB: SUMMARY
There is little question about LRH suffering from paranoic schizophrenia at the time he wrote the above. Predominant symptoms are auditive and likely visual hallucinations together with numbed emotions, suicidal thoughts , extremely low selfworth, impotence , thought disturbances and problems with articulation and memory. His fatigue and indolence together with the anhedonia is the typical low energy , low vigilance and numbed emotions found in the domaine of so called negative symtoms in this disease . He is fighting a hard battle with inner psychological conflicts, balancing between the depressed state with suicidal thoughts and the Godlike, allmighty powerful "chosen" one with special gifts and blessed with an inner "Guardian".
The Church of Scientology and its methods is merely the reflection of this seriously sick mans inner world. Constantly on guard against percieved critique and attacks from the hostile surrounding environments. Obsessed with money , not only as a mean of survival but as an instrument of power and evidence of success.

Ulf Brettstam
Senior psychiatrist

The organization clearly is schizophrenic and paranoid, and this bizarre combination seems to be a reflection of its founder [L. Ron Hubbard]. The evidence portrays a man who has been virtually a pathological liar when it comes to his history, background and achievements. The writings and documents in evidence additionally reflect his egoism, greed, avarice, lust for power, and vindictiveness and aggressiveness against persons perceived by him to be disloyal or hostile." -- Judge Paul G. Breckenridge, Jr., 6/20/84 (Scientology v. Armstrong, affirmed on appeal 232 Cal.App.3rd 1060, 283 Cal.Rptr. 917.)
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/hubbard-ad ... -eval.html

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 Post subject: Re: Hubbard's Admissions
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skeptic2girl wrote:
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=24094&p=278040&hilit=Flavia#p278040
Someone posting as Dr. Juan Gabriel mentions it has to do with a soup can?!

Image The esteemed Brazilian psychiatrist! (actually, one of Swifty's old sock-puppets)!!
(Ahh, those were the days!) lol

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 Post subject: Re: Hubbard's Admissions
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Hello

I found a few interesting links

I hope they are useful
http://www.freezoneearth.org/Prometheus ... revolt.htm

http://suppressiveperson.org/spdl/index ... 7&Itemid=1


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Excalibur AkA N.O.Ts teaching In OT3 seems a bit scarce and difcult to
trace down , I'm trying to get a complete understanding / picture ( with details )
about this "space opera" scifi turned religion . since most of the story about COS and it's
deepest held beliefs are most likely mingled in with These drug induced / inspired screen play writings.

SP im not curious person I am.

What's up with those Bizarre nested circles and diamonds out side their COS compound???

For some reason this " religion " make me feel a little clammy.


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 Post subject: Re: Hubbard's Admissions
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Excalibur101 wrote:
What's up with those Bizarre nested circles and diamonds out side their COS compound???


This is a tangent form the topic of this thread,
but allegedly, Hubbard liked to smoke KOOL cigarettes and the brand logo is from where he adopted the two interlocking circles.
http://www.westwall.com/images/A090425/ ... rettes.jpg


edit:
There is a village voice expose on the "Church of Spiritual Technology" that promotes this theory as well:
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninsca ... gys_se.php


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The interlocking circles are also technically easy to create, since you just need a pole and a chain or rope to create an initial circle, and then you can use heavy equipment to scrape a wider circle.


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