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 Post subject: Sandy Springs scientology zoning meeting videos 6/19/2012
PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:43 am 
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd ... y-lawsuit/

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 Post subject: Re: Sad. Very sad indeed
PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:08 am 
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Boo hoo. One month delay is not going to kill anyone. Bob Adams is pissed because, he now has to explain, the delay to the psychotic munchkin.


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 Post subject: Re: Sad. Very sad indeed
PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:05 am 
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Bummer. Sounds like the city council is ultimately going to approve it.

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 Post subject: Re: Sad. Very sad indeed
PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:37 pm 
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Members of the Sandy Springs Church of Scientology must wait another month before they may get city permission to expand their building. Before a crowd of nearly 100 people, the City Council voted 4-2 Tuesday evening to delay a vote over whether the church can add 12,000 square feet to its 32,053-square-foot building at Roswell Road and Glenridge Drive.

Bob Adams, vice president of the Church of Scientology, said after the meeting that he was optimistic about the eventual outcome. Opponents of the expansion were not.

The City Council "is between a rock and a hard place," said Sandy Springs resident Denis Brown.

Last year, the city rejected the proposed expansion of the church based on its on-site parking, and the church sued it. A federal judge upheld the city's decision, but church leaders say they have corrected the deficiency by providing 130 parking spaces and full access for emergency vehicles at a cost of close to $300,000.

"We have met every single requirement that you all have asked us to do, and there is no reasonable basis to deny this request," said church attorney William Galloway. Laurel Henderson, an attorney representing the city, said it has little choice now but to grant the expansion.

Church members who spoke at the hearing said they looked forward to building a strong presence in the community. "I have seen as others have told you the benefits in the community of having the Church of Scientology here," said resident Nancy Davis.

But opponents of the expansion said they were not given enough notice before Tuesday's meeting to mount a proper counter-argument to the church's request. Most said expansion at the church would add to congestion along one of the city's busiest routes. "We feel that there has been a near total disregard for the interests of local residents, no effort to put them in the picture," said Robin Beechey, who represents the Willow Glen Condominium Association.

Beechey said the city posted one notice in a local newspaper May 30 that the matter would be heard at Tuesday's meeting. But he said that newspaper is not distributed to city residents inside the Perimeter. Henderson said the city had fulfilled its obligation to publicize the meeting.

Councilman Chip Collins moved to delay the vote, arguing he would rather run the risk of further court action than lose the trust of city residents. He said one month's delay should not present a hardship for anyone.

Council members Dianne Fries and John Paulson voted against the delay, saying the city should not ignore the warnings of its own attorney. "We're here to protect the city," Fries said.

http://www.ajc.com/news/north-fulton/sa ... 61316.html
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Let's not forget there remains a pending civil lawsuit filed by cult with a million dollar litigation budget against a small city which probably can't afford the drain in funds fighting the lawsuit..

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/georgi ... 82/164119/


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 Post subject: Re: Sad. Very sad indeed
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:16 am 
Smurf wrote:
"I have seen as others have told you the benefits in the community of having the Church of Scientology here," said resident Nancy Davis.



As I stood in front of the gallery I almost became sick to my stomach as several local scienologists spoke on the wonderful impact their church has on the community. Glowing accolades by several were given to scientology community outreach programs.

Yet not one person stood up and told the truth. The truth that one of the cornerstones of scientology's community programs killed a young man. That program being Narconon International and Narconon of Georgia.

Some of those currently in litigation over the tragic death of Patrick W Desmond were in the audience as were those that are fully aware of what happened. Narconon of Georgia,s agent Matthew C Hines was present. Maria Delgado was present as was Bob Schmidt. VP. Narconon of Georgia

This fine example of scienology in action continues to violate state DCH codes and laws on a monthly basis even though it is in litigation. Why one of the defandants, Narconon medical director Dr. Lisa Robbins of the Robbins Group has resovled her invovlement in this sordid affiar to the plaintiff and its legal teams satisfaction. Still time and again DCH surveyors have found this so called pillar of the rehab community not in compliance.

Why we the general public are forced to accept the deluded insanity of the few is beyond my comprehension. I have become quite disillusioned with my recent experiences with my local and state officials.

Next month the game will change. I am not party to any lawsuit between the city of Sandy Springs and the church of scientology. It is about time the local community heard truth not flowery niceties.


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 Post subject: Re: Sad. Very sad indeed
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:25 pm 
It appears a member of the church of scientology is taking issue with a comment left @ the end of this Sandy Springs Reporter article.

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd ... y-lawsuit/


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 Post subject: Re: Sad. Very sad indeed
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:45 pm 
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Nice job, Gumby. I hope you guys prevail somehow.

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 Post subject: Re: Sad. Very sad indeed
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:07 pm 
After the meeting I was out in the parking lot to get some B-roll shots. As I was doing so scientologist Deb Danos appeared to want to block my shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoCGShAM6N0


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 Post subject: Sandy Springs scientology zoning meeing videos
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:07 pm 
Here is the videos taken during the Sandy Springs Georgia meeting. there are five in total. I will post them as youtube is still processing them

Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcG_ToDuiOw

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76a-Wmy43LE

Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlZO7R6fbEg&feature=plcp

Part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmtwlLRgvgs&feature=plcp

Part 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VlI6azu ... e=youtu.be


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 Post subject: Re: Sandy Springs scientology zoning meeting videos 6/19/201
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:59 pm 
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The locals' concerns about traffic congestion are probably based on the typical Scientology hyperbole.
Does anyone believe that this site will be any less idle than any of the others?
Since you're on the scene Gumby, would like to hear your thoughts.


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 Post subject: Re: Sandy Springs scientology zoning meeting videos 6/19/201
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:33 am 
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Huge article on Sandy Springs in today's New York Times.... resident's opposition to Scientology may be more a case of snobbery more tham any inhibitions about the cult...

"IF your image of a city hall involves a venerable building, some Roman pillars and lots of public employees, the version offered by this Atlanta suburb of 94,000 residents is a bit of a shocker.

The entire operation is housed in a generic, one-story industrial park, along with a restaurant and a gym. And though the place has a large staff, none are on the public payroll. O.K., seven are, including the city manager. But unless you chance into one of them, the people you meet here work for private companies through a variety of contracts.

Applying for a business license? Speak to a woman with Severn Trent, a multinational company based in Coventry, England. Want to build a new deck on your house? Chat with an employee of Collaborative Consulting, based in Burlington, Mass. Need a word with people who oversee trash collection? That would be the URS Corporation, based in San Francisco.

Even the city’s court, which is in session on this May afternoon, next to the revenue division, is handled by a private company, the Jacobs Engineering Group of Pasadena, Calif. The company’s staff is in charge of all administrative work, though the judge, Lawrence Young, is essentially a legal temp, paid a flat rate of $100 an hour."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/24/busin ... wanted=all


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 Post subject: Re: Sandy Springs scientology zoning meeting videos 6/19/201
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:21 am 
Smurf wrote:
Huge article on Sandy Springs in today's New York Times.... resident's opposition to Scientology may be more a case of snobbery more tham any inhibitions about the cult...

How did you glean this train of thought from the NYT article?


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 Post subject: Re: Sandy Springs scientology zoning meeting videos 6/19/201
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:01 am 
subgenius wrote:
Does anyone believe that this site will be any less idle than any of the others?
Since you're on the scene Gumby, would like to hear your thoughts.


I do not think the building in question would be any more or less idle per-say than other org,s. I would say that those that are currently practicing scientology here in Georgia will be the only individuals to actually use the building for their so called religious practices. Those individuals being decades long scientologists.

Scientology in Georgia is aging. I do not see a new generation of young people clamoring to fill those aging scientologists shoes.

As this small local scientology population ages, these individuals ability to generate income drops dramatically. With past historical sources of money quickly disappearing it will only be a matter of time before this aging group of scientologists will no longer have disposable income to keep the doors open and the lights on in the fashion demanded by those in Hemet.

Time will be the victor here in Georgia in regard to scientology. OG scientologists will fade away and there are no young people to replace them! No new sources of money to support the need for a 44,000 SQ FT. building.


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