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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:55 pm

The following Scientology promotional item and associated commentary appeared today, August 24, 2014
in Tony Ortega's Bunker.

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And finally, Scientology has invented a new unit of time! We can’t wait to find out what it is!
Do they call it a “hubbard”? Maybe a hubbard is the amount of time it takes for the ideal regging cycle to
be completed. As in, “It took me a couple of hubbards, but I finally got his check. And it didn’t bounce!”

Tell us your own theories — what might the Scientologists call this new unit of time, and how long
does it last?
This won't answer Tony Ortega's questions, which are probably rhetorical anyway, but it may give some
insight into what is behind the use of the term, "New Unit of Time Event." In Scientology training routines
(TRs) when a person fails at doing something they are to repeat what they have failed "in a new unit of
time." An action is to be done over "in a new unit of time" when it has failed to produce the desired result.

I interpret the statement "New Unit of Time Event" as an admission of prior failure at achieving the
ordered fund raising target and that the event will essentially repeat the action that failed exactly as
it was previously performed, except that it will now be done, "in a new unit of time."

This brings to mind this statement:

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
Albert Einstein
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:44 pm

Operation Snow White

I have reached the chapters in A Piece of Blue Sky where Jon Atack deals with the events of Operation
Snow White. I don't know how he got the information but he goes into great detail as to who did what
where and when, where the orders came from and who received the reports.

It's like reading All the President's Men. A Piece of Blue Sky is worth the price of admission just for that.
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:42 pm

In [i]A Piece of Blue Sky[/i], Jon Atack wrote:The Scientologists constantly excuse reprehensible acts by blaming them on a Suppressive who has subsequently been
removed. Hubbard first used this scapegoat approach in 1952 with his outlandish attack on Don Purcell. This is what comes
from believing in the evil influence of Suppressives, and their magical power for disruption. Most Scientologists accept the
excuse every time it is trotted out.
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:14 pm

http://tonyortega.org/2014/09/20/sneaky ... -students/

Scientology is using an anti-gang conference to get to high school students.

Gangs are a form of cult. So I guess this is a case of using cults to fight cults.

Terrorist groups are also a form of cult. Wars result from cult activity, not the third party law.

Yes those are broad general statements and are my statement of opinion, but I can give you references.

The problem with giving references is that most people won't read the recommended materials.

Thanks to cult promotional efforts deprogramming is generally looked on as a bad thing. Deprogramming frees
people from the influence of the cult or cult-like group they are part of and allows them to depart from that
influence and make their own life. Additionally, society as a whole is in a revenge mind set. We would rather
have revenge on gang members and terrorist group members than do what it takes to deprogram those people
and free them from the influence of those groups.
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:39 pm

I added a song to my anti cult playlist.

The song is Do Anything You Want To by Thin Lizzy.
The title does sound like Crowley's admonition, but I think the sentiment in the song is different.

So you can make up your mind on this here is a link to the video for the song on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4dhmweFUXI

Here are the lyrics:
Philip Parris Lynott wrote:"Do Anything You Want To"

There are people that will investigate you
They'll insinuate, intimidate and complicate you
Don't ever wait or hesitate to state the fate that awaits those who
Try to shake or take you
Don't let them break you

You can do anything you want to do
It's not wrong what I sing it's true
You can do anything you want to do
Do what you want to

People that despise you will analyse then criticise you
They'll scandalise and tell lies until they realize
You are someone they should have apologised to
Don't let these people compromise you
Be wise too

You can do anything you want to do
It's not wrong what I sing it's true
You can do anything you want to do
Do what you want to

Hey you you're not their puppet on a string
You can do everything
It's true if you really want to
You can do anything you want

Just like I do

You can do anything you want to do
It's not wrong when I sing it's true
You can do anything you want to do
Do what you want

Hey you
No can do
Hey you
Yes you

Elvis is dead
The king of Rock'n Roll is dead
Elvis is dead
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:35 am

I'm adding this to my playlist as well.

Key to the Highway as performed by Derek and the Dominoes

Video
http://www.jesusandmo.net/2014/09/25/deeds/

Lyrics
"Key To The Highway"

I got the key to the highway,
Billed out and bound to go.
I'm gonna leave here running;
Walking is most too slow.

I'm going back to the border
Woman, where I'm better known.
You know you haven't done nothing,
Drove a good man away from home.

[Live Verse]
When the moon peeks over the mountains
I'll be on my way.
I'm gonna roam this old highway
Until the break of day.

Oh give me one, one more kiss mama
Just before I go,
'Cause when I leave this time you know I,
I won't be back no more.

[Repeat First Verse]

[Repeat Second Verse]
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:43 am

This is a candidate for my anti cult playlist but I haven't made my mind up on one way or another yet.

It's a song called How Far performed by Martina McBride.

Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI_q5G_pw-M

Lyrics
Shaye Smith, Jamie O'neal, and Edward Monroe Hill wrote:"How Far"

There's a boat, I could sail away
There's the sky, I could catch a plane
There's a train, there's the tracks
I could leave and I could choose to not come back
Oh never come back

There you are, giving up the fight
Here I am begging you to try
Talk to me, let me in
But you just put your wall back up again
Oh when's it gonna end

[Chorus:]
How far do I have to go to make you understand
I wanna make this work so much it hurts, but I just can't
Keep on giving, go on living with the way things are
So I'm gonna walk away
And it's up to you to say how far

There's a chance I could change my mind
But I won't, not till you decide
What you want, what you need
Do you even care if I stay or leave
Oh, what's it gonna be

[Chorus]

Out of this chair, or just across the room
Halfway down the block or halfway to the moon

How far do I have to go to make you understand
I wanna make this work so much it hurts, but I just can't
Keep on giving, go on living with the way things are
So I'm gonna walk away
And it's up to you to say
Yeah I'm gonna walk away
And it's up to you to say how far
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:30 pm

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This could easily be a dialogue between a Scientologist and someone who isn't a Scientologist.

Here's an example with some minor changes.
-- How would you define Scientology?

-- Fides quaerens intellectum

-- "Faith seeking understanding"

-- You start by accepting the truth of several propositions: Life is basically a static, for example, by L. Ron Hubbard

-- Who has communicated with us via perfect and immutable holy scripture

-- So basically, Scientology is the practice of thinking up excuses for believing in bullshit?

-- No! It's thinking up excuses for knowing the truth
Thank Ron for disconnection so this type of conversation rarely ever happens.
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:28 am

This Scientology ad was among Tony Ortega's Sunday Funnies for October 19, 2014
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Text in the ad says, "we will be able to introduce and service over 1,400 public at a time."
and
"The Public Divisions would be buzzing with effective action and new people and furnishing a
torrent of new names to CF." (Central Files)

Then in the accompanying pictures the spaces are empty with no people in them.
There is a big discrepancy between the mass and significance in this ad.
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:33 am

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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:52 pm

Self fulfilling prophecy? Who can say?

Some time back I said I had a vision of Scientology that involved decay.

Since then I've been seeing post after post that involves Scientology experiencing a variety of forms of decay.

So I had this other vision, but like I have said before, I have no supernatural powers. None. Furthermore I don't
believe in such things. Nevertheless if these things are a self fulfilling prophecy, let's add to them.

The other vision was of Scientology going down a very old road, all broken, full of pot holes and littered with
debris. I am not talking about the kind of road that would be part of "good roads, good weather," oh, no, not that.

Alright, prophecy, self fulfill. We'll see.
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Sat Nov 08, 2014 7:14 pm

Here's one to add to your anti cult playlist. I'm sure it was not written as an anti cult song, but it really fits as one.

David Miscavige this one is for you.

Paul Young's Tear Your Playhouse Down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHYiOpyhgZk
You think you've got it all set up
You think you've got the perfect plan
To charm everyone you see
And playing any game you can

But I've got news for you
I hope it don't hit you too hard
One of these days while you're at play
I'm gonna catch you off guard

I'm gonna tear your playhouse down pretty soon
I'm gonna tear your playhouse down room by room

You make our lives a stress and strain
Using the power ploy
All you do is pass around
Hearts you use as play toys

You've been playing madly
With every mind in town
So what you gonna do when you look up one day
And see your playhouse tumbling down

I'm gonna tear your playhouse down pretty soon
I'm gonna tear your playhouse down room by room

You think you've got it all set up
You think you've got the perfect plan
To charm everyone you see
And playing any game you can

And you've been playing madly
With every mind in town
Oh, what you gonna do when you look up one day
And see your playhouse tumbling down

I'm gonna tear your playhouse down pretty soon
I'm gonna tear your playhouse down room by room

I'm gonna tear your playhouse down pretty soon
I'm gonna tear your playhouse down room by room by room.
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:51 am

There's a web site called 2 Paragraphs.
http://2paragraphs.com/
It takes news stories and presents them in 2 paragraphs.

So let's talk about Battlefield Earth.

I say this because I found this on the 2 paragraphs web site.
"John Travolta Says It’s Your Fault You Didn’t Get ‘Battlefield Earth’"
http://2paragraphs.com/2014/09/john-tra ... eld-earth/

I went and checked on Battlefield Earth's stats, or should I say, John Travolta and David Miscavige's
stats with regard to Battlefield Earth. And what a story of potential trouble source ness they are.

Battlefield Earth

Rotten Tomatoes
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/battlef ... attlefield

Stats:
Tomatometer: 3%
Reviews counted: 143
Fresh: 4
Rotten: 139
Audience Score: 11% liked it
User ratings: 53,675

Access reviews here:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/battlef ... h/reviews/

Box Office Mojo
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=bat ... dearth.htm

Stats:
Release Date:
May 12, 2000

Production Budget $73 million.

Opening Weekend: $11,548,898

Domestic Total Gross: $21,471,685
Foreign Total Gross: $8,253,978
Total Gross: $29,725,663

Widest Release: 3,307 theaters
In Release: 66 days / 9.4 weeks

IMDb
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185183/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Stats:
Rating 2.4/10 from 59,478 users

IMDb Bottom 100
http://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom?tt0185183&ref_=tt_awd

No. 77

Tied with:
Simon Sez (1999)
Laserblast (1978)
A Story About Love (1995)
Monster a-Go Go (1965)
The Starfighters (1964)
The Tony Blair Witch Project (2000)
Santa Claus (1959)
Seven Mummies (2006)
Mitchell (1975)
Car 54, Where Are You? (1994)

Battlefield Earth is still rated lower than 'It's Pat' (1994)
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:33 pm

How To Be Ultra Spiritual with JP Sears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kDso5ElFRg
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Thu Dec 25, 2014 3:19 am

This goes out to everyone, including those who are still involved with Scientology.

Have a very happy and safe Christmas and New Year's.
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