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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:38 am

Rick Ross has a recent book release that may interest you.

It's called, Cults Inside Out.

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I will add it to my WorldCat resource list as soon as it gets listed there.
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:27 am

“Think wrongly if you please, but in all cases think for yourself.”
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:56 am

At some point it will become common knowledge that Al Quaeda and ISIL/ISIS and other such terrorist groups are,
in fact, cults. I think government and private security organizations are figuring that out. Figuring that out is something
that is necessary in order to effectively deal with such organizations. The information that domestic cults so
desperately want people not to know will become more and more widely known. Tick tock tick tock.
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:29 pm

Going Clear and all the hoopla surrounding it triggered a Scientology dream.

In this one I was a Scientology staff member . . . aGain! . . . I hate those dreams.

There was one of those meetings where all the staff are gathered in a room for a briefing from several
senior types: division heads, executive director, and sea org mission types. They were going on about
how damaging Going Clear was and how we, the staff members, had to do everything we could to
overcome the negative effects and flourish and prosper and work more hours and do extra and
get the public working and yadda yaddda yadda. For a while there I was in a state of anxiety and
wanting to really get behind it all. And they I went, "Hang on! Wait a minute! I'm all for what
Gibney's film is doing to Scientology. Why the hell am I so worried about it." Then the dream
disintegrated.

That was a dream but I will wager a triple latte with some booze in it that Scientology is having
meetings like that and that Scientology is putting on major registrar pressure for people to put
more money into Scientology so it can flourish and prosper even more.

The only problem with that is when Scientology goes after its people so it can flourish and prosper
more and more, its people tend to flourish and prosper less and less.
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:57 am

http://tonyortega.org/2015/03/30/audio- ... er-family/

Per the above posting on Tony Ortega's Underground Bunker, Sylvia DeWall, her husband, Tim, and their three children
are all out of Scientology. I haven't done this for a while and never before like this. So this is for them.

:dancing7up:
Woot!

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Woot!

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Woot!

:dancing7up:
Woot!

:dancing7up:
Woot!

That felt good!
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:30 am

Even in the public reports, such as a recent post on Tony Ortega's Underground Bunker sea org staff members and such
are described as being trained to high levels in Scientology. From where I sit saying someone in Scientology is at the
highest level of technical training may just as well be saying they are expert with red crayons. Mind you that would
be disparaging to someone not in Scientology who is an expert with red crayons.
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Don Carlo » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:02 pm

"Deeply immersed" or "deeply entangled" is more accurate than "highly trained."

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Re: Where to put this?

Post by SeeYaBye » Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:51 pm

Wieber wrote:Going Clear That was a dream but I will wager a triple latte with some booze in it that Scientology is having meetings like that and that Scientology is putting on major registrar pressure for people to put more money into Scientology so it can flourish and prosper even more.

The only problem with that is when Scientology goes after its people so it can flourish and prosper
more and more, its people tend to flourish and prosper less and less.
We all know that Scientologists flourishing and prospering is irrelevant compared to keeping stats up.
"The truth is the kindest thing we can give folks in the end." - Harriet Beecher Stowe

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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Don Carlo » Thu May 28, 2015 2:47 am

Odd factoid: There's a group in Idaho/Utah associated with drug rehab called "Theta Wellness" that appears on the surface to NOT be Scientology or Narconon related. It bathes the patient in light inside a "Theta Chamber" which is not a Scientology practice. It doesn't appear, despite the "Theta" name, to be run by Scientologists, because they have a real psychologist on staff. They have some articles supposedly supporting their claims.

I doubt they know how infamous the "Theta" term is.

http://www.thetawellnesscenter.com/
http://www.thetawellnesscenter.com/thet ... -utah.html

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Re: Where to put this?

Post by SeeYaBye » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:52 pm

Wieber wrote:That was a dream but I will wager a triple latte with some booze in it that Scientology is having meetings like that and that Scientology is putting on major registrar pressure for people to put more money into Scientology so it can flourish and prosper even more.
You can bet on the fact that these meetings occurred after the documentary came out. And you can bet on the anxiety was way up above and beyond the usual anxiety level. I'm sure staff were forbidden from watching that film, and that public were told the same thing. That's what I call religious freedom!
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:02 pm

The latest word from Scientology about their target date for ideal orgification. ('Orgification' is in very few dictionaries.)
Did we say, "all orgs ideal by 2010?" We meant 2016. You know how David Miscavige's handwriting is and how easy it
is to take his sizes for zeroes. So, all orgs ideal by 2016 and we mean it. Donate now! To LRH! Hip hip . . .
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Mon Jun 08, 2015 7:28 pm

Fast joke, forget the setup and go right to the punchline.
Also - invoking Godwin's law.

Hitler had a real navy.
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Wieber » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:46 am

This song is for those who have been on staff in Scientology and have since left Scientology.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7TRXF7HCZA
Take This Hammer

Take this hammer and carry it to the captain
Take this hammer and carry it to the captain
Take this hammer and carry it to the captain
Tell him I'm gone
Tell him I'm gone

If he asks you was I runnin'
If he asks you was I runnin'
If he asks you was I runnin'
Tell him I was flyin'
Tell him I was flyin'

If he asks you was I laughin'
If he asks you was I laughin'
If he asks you was I laughin'
Tell him I was cryin'
Tell him I was cryin'

I don't want no cornbread and molasses
I don't want no cornbread and molasses
I don't want no cornbread and molasses
It hurts my pride
It hurts my pride

Take this hammer and carry it to the captain
Take this hammer and carry it to the captain
Take this hammer and carry it to the captain
Tell him I'm gone
Tell him I'm gone
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Demented Founder » Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:14 pm

Don Carlo wrote:Odd factoid: There's a group in Idaho/Utah associated with drug rehab called "Theta Wellness" that appears on the surface to NOT be Scientology or Narconon related. It bathes the patient in light inside a "Theta Chamber" which is not a Scientology practice. It doesn't appear, despite the "Theta" name, to be run by Scientologists, because they have a real psychologist on staff. They have some articles supposedly supporting their claims. Named on the website: Dr. Bryan Turner, MD, Dr. Martha Southwick, NP, Dr. Andrew Peterson, DO, and Jessica Dieters, MS, LPC, CMHC (the psychologist).

I doubt they know how infamous the "Theta" term is.

http://www.thetawellnesscenter.com/
http://www.thetawellnesscenter.com/thet ... -utah.html
"Theta" is the name of a letter from the Greek alphabet. CoS do not own the name, Theta.
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Re: Where to put this?

Post by Don Carlo » Thu Jul 30, 2015 2:45 pm

Of course anyone can use the term theta, but this health clinic is naive about its Scientology implications.

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