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 Post subject: COS Against LAURA'S LAW ~ LATIMES Editorial ~ 9
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2002 1:49 pm 
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Date: Sat, Sep 28, 2002, 12:11pm (CDT+5) From: rkeller@unix01.voicenet.com (RodKeller)

Governor, Sign Laura's Law
Los Angeles Times
September 28, 2002

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-ed-laura28sep28.story
HELPING PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS

By press time Friday night, Gov. Gray Davis still had not signed "Laura's law," an important bill that would let judges order outpatient treatment for seriously mentally ill people who can't fathom the gravity of their condition.

The deadline is midnight Monday.
Davis had pledged to do everything in his power to protect Californians from crime, so supporters of the bill had expected him to embrace the measure. It would enable some of California's most vulnerable people, including many who live on sidewalks or alongside freeways, to get help before they harm themselves or others. But opponents of the legislation have grown particularly vocal in recent weeks.

Two weeks ago, for instance, a subgroup of the Church of Scientology, which opposes virtually all psychiatric treatments, sponsored a rally at the Capitol against Laura's law--named after a 19-year-old killed by a man whose mental illness had been left untreated.............(more)

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2002 5:00 am 
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CoS fights all other mental treatments, yet does not propose any viable solutions. Do you think the mentally ill can join staff and be audited out of their mental illness? Or have mega $$$ to buy auditing? Of course not. Scientology is not for the mentally ill. Its stated purpose is to make the able more able. Thus, its opposition to Laura's Law is not part of any sort of solution. Therefore, CoS is part of the problem.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2002 6:26 pm 
Another death that prompted this legislation was that of a grandfather in the SF Valley who was run over repeatedly by a woman whose repeated psychotic breaks got too little official attention until the murder. Her husband speaks now to the media about how he tried to get her help, but basically in California now, if you don't take your meds, there is nothing the docs or cops can do--unless you commit a major crime while insane.

I don't know about other parts of the world, but here in LA we have plenty of insane homeless people.

It's sickening to think that Davis will pocket veto this bill, probably after driving up his
"campaign contribution" price with the CCHR as
high as he can. Yech. And he's still not as bad
as Bill Simon, his Republican rival in the coming
elections.

And no, I haven't seen the folks at Big Blew doing
charity work for the less able in the streets of Hollywood.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2002 9:02 pm 
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Ya mean this "religion" isn't out "ministering" to the homeless? Surprise, surprise. ;)


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Freebie, this "religion" never did anything religious in the 13 years I was on board. I never once saw a "Sunday" service, I never once saw anyone visiting the sick, the shut-ins, the elderly. All we did was get the stats up and move up the bridge. There is no way that society benefits from this "religion" and, thus, is not deserving of tax exempt status. It is obvious the IRS caved in/sold out the American people when they made this sweetheart deal with CoS. The IRS does not care what CoS does. If it did, then all the complaints against it would have been acted on by now. Believe you me, if it was anyone else, it would have had its exemption yanked long before now.


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Makes you wonder HOW this happened at the IRS? How did the master become the slave?


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The appearance of master becoming slave is because of (1) using the legal system to harass the IRS (2,000 individual lawsuits rather than 1 easier-to-defend class action lawsuit); (2) private investigators harassing key employees (per Jesse Prince, abusing their pets was part of the harassment); (3) once the "meat" was tenderized, approaching the IRS with a $12 million offer to settle all the litigation.

Another interesting side to this story is how Meade Emory, a former IRS assistant commissioner became one of the four top dogs of Scientology (senior in rank above DM). Of those four, only one is a Scientologist (=Norman Starkey). They are all attorneys. So, the Bridge to Total Spiritual Freedom is controlled by four attorneys, one of whom has heavy ties with the "SP" IRS.

The secret closing agreement between the IRS and COS appointed a "Tax Compliance Committee" made up entirely of senior Scientologists to run its own tax ethics program. That's like telling a group of criminals to police itself. So the IRS implicitly "trusts" CoS to get its own ethics in. Maybe because the IRS was blitzed with so much paper by CoS in its tax exemption application that the IRS didn't have the resources to actually analyze it, gave up and said "run your own ethics program"?

I said "appearance" in the first sentence is because that "appearance" is a facade. Actually, the IRS owns Scientology now. That makes Scientology the state religion of choice. Of course, the government can't 'fess up to this. Individual kickbacks are too lucrative.

It is a convoluted situation. What is, isn't. What isn't, is. Truth is simple. Scientology isn't.


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The IRS has the full force of the US Gov't. behind it. Wasn't it in their power to dismiss all those 2,000 frivolous lawsuits, and taking the offensive themselves?


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Freeborn, you'd think the government could have done something. It has been suggested that Fred Goldberg, the then-IRS-commissioner was caught in some unethical behavior and he was blackmailed.


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The clams vs. the IRS: It's a shame they bother with the legal system instead of slaughtering each other wholesale, isn't it?

Oh well. It's going to be a LOT of fun once the FBI starts SERIOUSLY INVESTIGATING this cult for extortion and blackmail, and we'll get to watch lots of clams, and probably a few IRS agents, get arrested and thrown in jail instead. (Attention prisoners: ALL of them have very tight assholes.)

A note to any disturbed mental patient: The Co$, by blocking this law, are the ones responsible for your not being able to get help. Furthermore, they are the only group with the ability to "implant intentions" in people- just ask them. So it must be they who are responsible for that control.. and you know just what to do...


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Uhh... ahem!

"You are to behave politely and friendly on this message board or the administrator might remove your posts and/or cancel your account."


In addition, the FBI may seriously investigate YOU (upon receiving a "tip" - anonymous, of course), or the law offices of Moccasin and Kobra may file suit against you for "hate speech" and incitement to violence in a public forum. If you're anywhere near Riverside, California, they may arrange a date for you with the notorious Judge Ron ("Dred" ) Why and their guy Task in the DA's office there, all of which could mean you have a trip to the Great White North in your future. You speak Canuck at all?

But seriously, Slice, it might pass if it were funny. Andreas has asked you nicely, more than once. Now I-Loki asks you. And you know I-Loki is no Goody Twoshoes, himself. M'kay?

"Irie, y'ar wan Rude Boy, mon!" 8)


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Merlin, he IS funny, but it's DRY wit. If anyone takes him literally, they need a humor transplant.


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I-Loki: I have absolutely no fear of the big bad clams. Here's something I never did tell you: The clams ALREADY reported one of my posts to the police. The cops walked away from my house with xenu.net on their minds. Then they sent some (non-scientologist) PIs to my house. THEY walked away with xenu.net on their clipboards. I invite the clams to contact as many authorities as they want- their bullet-removing podiatrist will just have to work overtime.

And I have absolutely no fear of the clams using that particular post in court. They don't dare quote ANYTHING which mentions the feds investigating them- because if the feds do read it, they might do exactly that!

On a similar note- Hey, Ashcroft, if you really are reading this: the kids over at Gold Base near Hemet, California have a bad habit of escaping to nearby tribal lands to get away from the adult Scientologists abusing them. You don't have to believe me- you're the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which means you can go investigate it for yourself.

And if Andreas doesn't like my posts, he can delete them or torch my account. It's his server, after all, and it wouldn't be the first time people have done that to me :)


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Slicer.... Humour can be a useful way of putting ones point across. Your dry wit is funny, but you have to take into consideration that clams do not have the intelligence to see it as wit. Clams do not have the intelligence for many things... full stop!

One of the concerns seems to be that your postings can be easily taken out of context and used by C0$ against not only you, but this MB and others associated with suppressive activities etc.

It's not for to me to tell you what to do or not to do... and you have the right to tell me to stick my nose elsewhere ....and I have the right to ignore you ... But remember that the overall purpose of this board is to publicise the crimes of co$ while assisting its downhill slide, and also to help those wanting to abandon ship before co$ hits the bottom. (...spitting up asbestos on the way down...)

Some of your posts have been subtle, funny and obviously effective against the co$ clockwork machine.....

Keep up with the humour, and keep posting, but please be careful.... You may be able to fight off the assaults by co$ but there are others who do not have your resources and resillience and may be affected by "collateral damage".

Nec-v20/apollo said "tell the truth with a smile".

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(a sad clown can still be funny...)


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Slicemon,

[Cheech Marin voice]: "Hey, man, well, you got some kinda cojones, you know that?!"

No, you didn't tell us about all that. I guess that makes you a Suppressive Person of the Fifth Order of Magnitude, with multiple Klamklusters. I see a special citation coming your way from the OCMBCC(wdne): Joker&Degrader Meritorious!

We know, of course, that the Co$ take you literally - when it suits them to do so. We also know that they are in dire need of more than a mere humour transplant. If you are confident in your ability to walk that thin line between socking it to 'em verbally, and giving them anything they could possibly run and make hay with, lay on!

If Andreas is cool with it, good enough. It's your style, and I'll say this for ya: nobody does it better - or fiercer.

"VWD, mon!" 8)


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