The Secret Trementina, New Mexico, Scientology Symbols

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Post by J. Swift » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:49 pm

Atheist, I could take you to Washington DC and show you dozens and dozens of secret symbols in the architecture. Why would anyone embed secret symbols in DC when all they needed were buildings? To a person who demands rationality 100% of the time, life will be baffling and aggravating. Look, we are at a website that focuses on a cult at the core of which is an evil galactic overlord named Xenu and a con man named L. Ron Hubbard. If you expect 100% rationality here, you won't get it because the board is based on an irrational subject. The best we can do is to offer proofs and testimonies that the irrational cult of Scientology is harmful and dangerous. If we speculate as an aside, don't expect scientific statements in the realm of spiritual cosmologies, ET's, BT's, etc.

Who said that Scientologists, or most humans, are rational or would follow logic? If everything has to be logical and consistent for you then stick to hard science in a vacuum. Avoid the ego's of Ph.D.'s and never write a grant and expect it to have anything to do with logic. If you want the purity of numbers, write equations in your bedroom all day long. Never fall in love or have children or actually work with other humans. It is easy to sit back and demand explanations and then reject all explanations that don't fit your criteria. But what does that accomplish for you?

Have some fun and speculate. Allow your mind to wander. There is no law against speculation. There is no money or professional reputations at stake here. It is just an internet board and you are anonymous. It would not crack your face if you had some fun here.

Also, in another thread you made a logical error by arguing that in the future we will understand quantum physics and the wave/particle duality of light. It is a logical fallacy to argue that something will be proven in the future. I could just as easly argue that spirituality and everything I say will be proven in the future and be as equally valid as you if we accept arguments based on the future. We may never understand quantum physics. We may never be able to observe both the speed and position of a particle.
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Post by J. Swift » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:06 pm

I looked at the Google map and saw the white strip. I took that to be part of the San Miguel structure, but now it appears to be a runway. Still, I wonder if the runway, which is concrete, forms part of the geometry of the complex as part of an aieral orientation? Being concrete, the runway should outlast the dirt circles and serve as a marker.

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Post by daisy » Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:34 pm

My husband and I are following this thread. Kevin has flown in the past and he had remarked to me that he felt that was a runway.

I do recall being at Flag and having to visit all those offices as part of the "leaving the org routing form" and being hit up for money to pay for these so called scriptures that were being made to last in case of a nuclear disaster on this planet.

I have also changed my mind regarding DM, I think he does believe in the "tech". This makes him a very dangerous man indeed.

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Post by barky » Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:12 am

I have also changed my mind regarding DM, I think he does believe in the "tech".
This is simply another example of how they care more about their "tech" than they care about their own members. I suppose it is better than simply dumping money in a secret Carribbean bank account, but still. :roll:

If they actually treated their own people better, maybe they'd actually be making headway in this frigged-up society and not be hated by 95% of the world.

Of course I'm assuming the tech works with that sentence, wow what a leap I made. :lol:


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Post by J. Swift » Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:27 am

Preliminary Information/Not Validated Yet

The Scientology site appears to be situated on the Huerfano Mesa at ~5300 feet above sea level. The area of New Mexico is called the "Pablo Montoya Grant" on USGS maps. Check USGS "Waggoner" and "Bell Ranch" quadrangles. I am working to overlay old USGS maps to the Google satellite image.

The runway appears to be 6000' X 125' (it may be 5900') and is large enough for a business jet to land on. I cannot, at present, find the airport in the New Mexico list of airports. Even private airports have to declare themselves as "pvt." It may have an obsucre name.

The Huerfano Mesa is sacred in Navajo mythology as the place of the first man and first woman, it is a Genesis site.

What has to be confirmed is if the CST site is on the Huerfano Mesa or nearby. The USGS maps are from the 1970's in most cases.



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Sunday Morning, January 23, 1994 Copyright 1994

Albuquerque Journal


A Scientology sect's underground N.M. archive is an enigma to some
neighbors. Stories by Tom Sharpe.

[This caption is beneath a color photograph of a large complex of
buildings among trees:]

The main house at the Scientology sect retreat near
Trementina, N.M., cost almost $1.5 million to build, building
permits show. The retreat is patrolled by armed guards,
some neighbors say.

[This caption is beside an aerial color photograph of a three-story
large house on a hillside:]

The 5,500-square-foot caretakers residence, which cost $524,700 to
build, is said to house the entrance to the archive tunnel through one
of its top floors.

Photos by Greg Sorber / Journal

TREMENTINA -- High in the headwaters of the Rio Trementi-
na, a reclusive sect of the Church of Scientology has established
what is described as an archive to preserve for a millennium the
words of its founder. In January 1984, the California-
based Church of Spiritual Technology -- one of the parent
church's dozens of spinoffs during its 26-year legal
battle with the federal government over tax exemp-
tions -- began buying the first of a dozen tracts of
land some 50 miles east of Las Vegas, N.M.

In 1986, Church of Spiritual Technology officials
got the San Miguel County Commission to start
maintaining the 16-mile dirt road. Then the church
began tunneling into the side of a mountain.

By 1990, workmen had finished the tunnel, cleared an air
strip atop a mesa and built at least three luxury homes, valued
at $2.5 million. The main house is massive, with 12,000 square
feet of living space and 12 bedrooms.

But what goes on inside the remote, 4,175-acre spread known
as San Miguel Ranch remains a mystery to most on the outside
-- because church officials aren't saying.

In Las Vegas, ranch foreman Chuck Dunigan has for two
years chaired the Chamber of Commerce's Rails & Trails Com-
mittee, which sponsors a festival in June, but he won't talk
about the ranch because "I choose not to" and because "I am
not the spokesman."

[Here a map entitle "Scientology Archive" shows an area with Santa Fe
on the West and Tucumcari on the East. Las Vega, Trementina, the
Trementina River, and Chonchas Lake appear on the map. This caption
appears below the map: RUSS BALI/JOURNAL]

Repeated calls for more than a month to the media
spokesman of the Church of Spiritual Technology in Los Ange-
les have gone unanswered.

Neighbors give the ranch mixed reviews. One describes its
occupants as "real nice people." Others say they've heard that
armed guards patrol the perimeter.

According to The Associated Press, the Internal Revenue
Service on Oct. 1 restored the nonprofit, tax-exempt status of
Scientology and more than 30 spinoffs, including the Church of
Spiritual Technology.

The news agency reported the Trementina complex is one of

[Here the text is continued on page A8 with this large headline
across the top of the page: Scientology Archive a Mystery to

three archives for the works of Scientology's late
founder, L. Ron Hubbard. The other two are near Petro-
lia, Calif., and Crestline, Calif.
Hubbard was a science-fiction writer whose dissatis-
faction with mental-health care in the 1940s led to his
development of "Dianetics" and "Scientology."

By the time he died in 1986 -- when a chief lieutenant
announced the death to a gathering of Scientologists,
saying Hubbard had "willingly discarded the body" --
Scientology was being called the world's newest reli-

Despite the nonprofit status, the San Miguel County
Assessor lists the Church of Spiritual Technology and
its San Miguel Ranch as taxable. The assessor values
the land at some $600,000 and the improvements at $2.5
million, and has billed the church for about $33,000 in
1994. The church has not yet asked San Miguel County
for any exemption from taxes.

Rumors abound

Trementina, "turpentine" in Spanish, is named for the
pine oil once harvested there. The ranching country is
so vast and sparsely populated that F-111 jets from
Canon Air Force Base in Clovis regularly practice low-
altitude flying over the rugged mountains that drop
dramatically into the broad, flat Canadian River valley.

The ranch is well situated for privacy, with buildings
tucked away at the base of a mountain and not visible
from roads. The 16-mile dirt road leading up to the
property is blocked about four miles from the houses
by a padlocked, white, metal-pipe gate.

[Two small pictures are shown, one of L. Ron Hubbard, Scientology
found and one of San Miguel Ranch foreman Chuck Dunigan.]

Jose Mufniz, who is building a house near where the road leaves
paved NM 419, said he has never visited the ranch, but has heard that
armed guards protect it.

"I'm a religious person," said Mufniz, who moved from Santa Fe a
year ago. "If you've got God on your side, why do you need guns?"

Alfonso Sanchez, a neighbor whose wife has worked at the ranch,
said he knows of no one carrying guns.

Sanchez said ranch employees helped him build a new, steel-frame
house after his old one burned down Nov. 5.

Sanchez said the San Miguel Ranch contributed to his restoration
of the nearby San Rafael Chapel. He also said the ranch paid the major
share of the costs for the Farmers Electric Cooperative in Clovis last
year to extend electric lines 11 miles to the ranch and several
including his own.

"Those are real nice people," Sanchez said, adding that ranch
foreman Dunigan had offered to fly in an airplane from Albuquerque,
in case of a medical emergency. He said Dunigan's wife flies into
the ranch occasionally from her home in Los Angeles.

Sanchez said his wife cleaned houses on the ranch until it "ran out
of money" two years ago.

Gilbert Gallegos, whose sister Pauline sold the church its
tract of land in San Miguel County a decade ago, said he, too, has
the archive is heavily guarded, though he has never been on it.

"I've heard they've spent lots of money," said Gallegos, from
Trujillo. "The last I heard was that they were kind of running out of

Burke Denman, a Santa Fe building contractor who worked on the
four years ago, calls stories about guns on the ranch "baloney." He
the only gun he recalls was a .22-caliber rifle used to kill rat-

"They were one of the most pleasant clients I've ever
dealt with," he said. "They're neat people and obviously

Movement has grown

The Church of Spiritual Technology's "goal of longevity embraces
a minimum of 1,000-year life for the materials it handles," say
documents filed by the church with Humboldt County officials in
northern California, for the Petrolia archive.

The Church of Scientology claims 8 million followers
worldwide and nearly $400 million in assets.

IRS records released late last year say that before
Hubbard died at age 74, he bequeathed $30.3 million to
archive his works, according to a recent story in the St.
Petersburg Times.

The IRS records show that the Church of Spiritual
Technology spent $13 million in 1992 to preserve
"scripture" on 1.8 million stainless steel plates and his
lectures on 187,000 nickel records that can be played
back with a stylus as crude as a thorn in the event of
some future cataclysm, The Associated Press reported.

Linda Simmons Hight, media relations director for
the Church of Scientology International in Los Angeles,
said the Church of Spiritual Technology is a "separate,
free-standing" corporation that is "in charge of
archives" for Scientology.

Hight said she lived in Taos in the early 1970s and
has been a practicing Scientologist for some 20 years,
but knows nothing about the Trementina archive or the
two in California.

"I'm not quotable," she said of her lack of knowledge
about the archive project.

Robin Geer, corporate secretary for the Church of
Scientology of New Mexico, said in a telephone inter-
view from the church's Albuquerque office on Menaul
that she doubts the Church of Spiritual Technology is
connected to the Church of Scientology. Denise Jacobs,
president of the New Mexico church, has not been
available for comment.

The existence of the New Mexico archive was first
revealed in September 1986. A story in the Las Vegas
Optic newspaper quoted Russ Bellin, Church of Spiritu-
al Technology ranch manager, who said 14 to 17 men
were working on the 14-by-10-foot tunnel.

Bellin, who now lives in California and has not been
available for comment, said in the story the sandstone
formation would keep the tunnel's contents at a steady,
dry 63 degrees which is "perfect for the preservation
of paper."

In January 1990, freelancer Sally Ooms published a
story in the Santa Fe New Mexican about the project.
She quoted Church of Spiritual Technology administra-
tor Jane McNairn of Los Angeles about how the organi-
zation got the underground-archive idea from the Mor-
mon church.

McNairn said Scientology lectures would be digitally
recorded onto gold-plated, chrome compact discs, and
books would be printed using archival-grade papers,
cloths and threads made from pure cotton and linen

McNairn, who has not been available for comment
for this article, told Ooms the Church of Spiritual Tech-
nology is only seeking privacy. The site in central San
Miguel County was chosen because "it is away from the
pollution of a major city and it is an area that is not
likely to be a nuclear target," McNairn said.

About the same time Ooms' story appeared, Las
Vegas city and San Miguel County officials toured the

Hilario Rubio, Jr., a former county planner, recalled
that he toured the archive with former City Councilor
Dana Lucero, former County Manager Edward Lucero,
former County Attorney Arthur Bustos and a deputy

"There are so many rumors about it," said Rubio, who
now works for the regional housing authority. "They
built nice houses and a tunnel in the mountain to store
records -- exactly what they said they would do."

Bustos recalled that the tunnel was "the size you
could put a train in" with several "finger corridors" off
the main shaft.

But those now in office say all they know about the
San Miguel Ranch is what they read in a newspaper
four years ago.

Last September, a group of State Police officers
toured the archive at the request of the Churchg of Spiritual

[Two pictures are shown. The upper shows a man standing before a
house, perhaps one-room made of adobe. A dog and construction
materials are near the house. The caption reads:]

Above: Jose Mufiiz, who is building a house some 16 miles
from the San Miguel Ranch where Scientologists have built
a archive complex, said he has never visited the ranch or met
any of its employees.

[A picture shows a road with six hairpin turns ascending a hill. The
caption reads:]

Left: In an aerial view of the Scientology retreat near Trementina, an
airstrip can be seen on top of the mesa, the retreat is at lower
right, and the building housing the tunnel entrance is at left.

[A picture shows a locked iron gate across a two-track dirt road.
The caption reads:]

Below: The 16-mile dirt road leading up to the Scientology
property is blocked about four miles from the houses by a
padlocked, metal-pipe gate.

[The text of the article continues.]

"After what had happened in Waco, these people
came to us because they wanted to cool the rumors
some of the misconceptions that were going on,"
recalled Capt. David Velarde, formerly commander of
the Las Vegas office of the State Police.

Department of Public Safety Secretary Richard C de
Baca, who joined the tour, said that he visited the tun-
nel, the houses and watched a demonstration of docu-
ment preservation. He said video cameras are placed at
the tunnel's entrance, but that none of the San Miguel
Ranch employees carried guns.

Luxury in the wilderness

State Construction Industry Division records show
that contractor Burke Denman of Santa Fe built the
steel-frame, stuccoed buildings at the San Miguel
Ranch based on plans by architects from Mazria
Associates of Santa Fe.

Building permits for more than $2.3 million worth of
construction were taken out in 1989 -- including a near-
ly $1.5 million, 12,000-square-foot main house; a
$524,700 5,500 square-foot caretaker residence; a
$143,000, 1,500-square-foot guest house; and other

A Santa Fe mining engineer who worked on the pro-
ject described the underground tunnel to reporters
some four years ago as Y-shaped -- a 200-foot shaft
that branches into two 150-foot legs. The tunnel's
entrance, he said, was through one of the top floors of
the caretaker residence.

One workman employed there in 1989 and '90 said the
main house on the property had 12 bedrooms and was
"phenomenally elaborate." He said some of the church
officials on the scene were armed and spoke a language
he could not identify.

Others who worked on the project said they promised
their clients not to discuss the project publicly.
The State Corporation Commission has no listing for
the Church of Spiritual TecMology or the San Miguel
Ranch. But commission records indicate the Church of
Scientology of New Mexico was incorporated as a non-
profit entity in 1970, with an anticipated expiration
date of 2070.

Church Seeks World Conquest, Defector Says

Robert Vaughn Young, one of Scientology's
chief public spokesmen until his defection four
years ago, compares the underground archive
near Trementina to a "pyramid for the pharaohs."
"Nothing is ever done lightly or innocently," he
said. "Their goal is world conquest."

Young said the archive fits into Scientology's
top leadership's plan to create a 1,000-year repos-
itory for the works of its founder, L. Ron Hub-

He said another plan calls for above-ground
obelisks that would be engraved with Hubbard's
words in various languages.

In recent telephone interviews with the Journal
from his residence in the Los Angeles area,
Young said people involved in local chapters of
Scientology were zealots devoted to their cause.
"At that level, it's very harmless," he said.
"Those people really believe in what they're
doing . . .

"But as soon as you get into the organizational
level, which has to do with what you're licensed to
do, it gets very different. The organization
became incredibly paranoid and went into a siege
mentality in the mid-'60s."

In the 1970s, he said, paramilitary groups
sprang up in Scientology's ranks.

By the 1980s, Scientology's leadership "began
to devour itself," said Young, who left the organi-
zation in 1989. "There were always witch hunts
and purges to find their enemies."

He said the Church of Spiritual Technology was
created by top church leaders in 1982 "as a way to
get tax exemptions."

Linda Simmons Hight, media relations director
for the Church of Scientology International in Los
Angeles since 1992, said in a telephone interview
that since leaving his job with Scientology, Young i
has tried to make a living as an "expert for hire"
against the organization. !

Scientology is based on Hubbard's 1950 best-
seller, "Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental
Health," which calls for freeing one's mind from
trauma through intensive counseling called
"auditing," involving a lie-detector-like device
called an "electropsychometer" or "E meter."

One of Scientology's goals is to become a
"clear" -- a person who has rid himself of his or
her "reactive" mind so as to achieve virtually per-
fert mental and physical health. An even higher
goal is to become an "operating thetan" or "O.T."
-- a stage at which one supposedly remembers
his or her past lives. Hight, who said she is "in a
state of clear," said Scientologists believe "we
live again because we're immortal."

The process of reaching Scientology's advanced
stages can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars,

according to some reports. Hight said that figure
was too high, but declined to name a figure.

"There is a system of fixed donations that vary
from person to person," she said.

According to "L Ron Hubbard: Messiah or
Madman?" by Hubbard's estranged son and
another disillusioned Scientologist, the elder Hub-
bard told a meeting of science-fiction writers in
1947: "If you really want to make a million . . . the
quickest way is to start your own religion."

Hight said Hubbard's son has since recanted
the 1987 book.

By the 1950s, Hubbard's book royalties had
made him "a millionaire several times over,"
according to church literature.

In the '60s and '70s, Hubbard bought three
ships. With his closest advisers, known collective-
ly as the "Sea Organization" or "Sea Org," he
sailed the north Atlantic and Mediterranean look- uc
ing for an entire country for Scientology. tu

According to the book co-authored by Hub-
bard's son, Sea Org members who made mistakes,
questioned Hubbard's authority or tried to leave ~
often were detained by what was known as the
"Rehabilitation Project Force," or RPF, and
forced to do "slave labor" in the lower decks of
ships or in the basement boiler rooms of build-

Scientology claims in its recently published
690-page guidebook, "What is Scientology?" to be
"the most open group on Earth." But Scientol-
ogy's tenets don't recommend talking to the
media. In a chapter called "Those Who Oppose ~
Scientology," Hubbard is quoted as saying that ~
there is no "good press." i~

"The politician, the reporter; the medico, the
drug manufacturer; the militarist and the arms
manufacturer; the police and the undertaker, to ~
name the leaders of the list, fatten only upon 'the
dangerous environment,'" Hubbard wrote.

"Even individuals and family members can be
Merchants of Chaos."

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Post by J. Swift » Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:47 am

A Santa Fe mining engineer who worked on the project described the underground tunnel to reporters some four years ago as Y-shaped -- a 200-foot shaft that branches into two 150-foot legs. The tunnel's entrance, he said, was through one of the top floors of the caretaker residence.
The other distinctive tunnel that branches into a Y is here:


The Great Pyramid of Giza has a main passageway. It is to the lower right side of the pyramid as you can see in this cutaway view. This passage forks into ascending and descending passageways. One leads to the King's chamber, the other to the Queen's Chamber. The pyramid was not built as a burial tomb, but was a place of initiation, which leads me to a theory I have long held and never shared.

I have long suspected that there is a secret "Level Above OT" and that it does not exist within the Church of Scientology. My theory is that CST presents itself as an administrative entity only, but that it actually conceals the Level Above OT. All of those rooms at Trementina could be for people who are on course on the "Level Above OT" in a completely entheta free environment that is much better than The Freewinds.
Robert Vaughn Young, one of Scientology's chief public spokesmen until his defection four years ago, compares the underground archive near Trementina to a "pyramid for the pharaohs." "Nothing is ever done lightly or innocently," he said. "Their goal is world conquest."


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Post by J. Swift » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:38 am

Theory B: This entire affair with CST and the Trementina site was a publicity stunt between CST and the TV station to make Scientology look sinister and wicked after having looked like as stupid as it actually is on South Park.

The closeness in time to the humiliating drubbing Scientology got on South Park suggests that the Channel 13 bit was a PR stunt. I think Theory B is the case because Scientology is desperate to find something to take people's attention off the Flood of Entheta.

There is nothing sinister about Trementina. CST was obligated by Ron's will to spend $30 million preserving his works. It looks like a vault with a runway and a private luxury resort for Scineo celebs. You can't get there unless you have a private jet and an invitation from DM. Woo Hoo! If you are a million dollar Patron Stupidtorious you get to fly out to Trementina and go down in the vault to see some titanium filing cabinets.

BTW: The Level Above OT?

It is the cognition, "I am broke! I spent my life savings to help record LRH's words on steel plates that are in a big concrete hole out in the middle of nowhere! Hubbard really was crazy!!!"


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Post by J. Swift » Wed Nov 23, 2005 6:06 am

This has been a fun day for me.

I have to close by asking the Church of Spiritual Technology a very serious question about the Trementina site:

Did you make sure to include stainless steel records of Ron singing his classic song:


I would hate to think that OT's who returned to a devastated Earth millions of years from now would be deprived of the comfort of listening to the best song in the history of all universes.

PS: Can you have a Miami local TV station do something on The Freewinds, the Scientology ship of mystery next? I want to see the deadly blue asbestos on video.

Hey, thank you for listening Mr. Emory!


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Post by programmer_guy » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:38 am

I would question the ability to see it from orbit very well.
Some satellites have amazing imaging capabilities.

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Post by Digger » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:30 am

Petrolia California, 5000 acres, secret vault,Twin Peaks California, north of San Bernadino on Highway 18. another vault,New Mexico vault site near Trementina.Aerial photos.Just click on the numbers.


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Post by Digger » Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:10 pm

$166 million to bury books :shock:

From: Jeff Jacobsen <>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: $166 million to bury books
Date: 9 Jul 1996 22:57:02 -0700
Message-ID: <4rvgne$>

Man, I was looking at Scientology's IRS 1023 forms again and came
across this gem. Church of Spiritual Technology is supposed to preserve
the tech for the future. They are trying really hard to find non-acidic
paper, metal etching systems, argon filled titanium tubes, all kinds of
ways to preserve the tech for, who?, whoever digs up this stuff at some
unknown future date.
In 1992 CoST wrote "To date CST has spent over $52,000,000 on these
projects and expects to spend another $114,000,000 in the next 5 years to
complete the current phase of its program." So that's $166,000,000 US
spent to date (if they were on schedule) for "the current phase" of
preserving the tech. So, Hubbard wrote a million words or something?
That's $166 a word to store his writings. But remember, that's only up
to the first "phase" of the program!
On irc channel #scientology we were, as always, thinking of ways to
help Scientology do things more efficiently. Lo and behold! We came up
with a brilliant plan - why not hire NASA to bury the books and tapes in
a capsule on the moon? Heck, for $200 million I'm sure they'd do it!
There are no vandals on the moon! There is no atmosphere on the moon to
deteriorate the paper! There are no (military or non-military) paper
worms to eat the paper!
I know, I know... you're thinking "Jeez, Jeff, if they bury the stuff
on the moon, how will anybody ever see them?" To that I retort - well,
if you build nuclear bomb proof vaults here on earth, and have nuclear
bomb proof doors with a fancy lock on them, how the heck is anybody
gonna get at the books here??? Are ya gonna leave the combination
nearby? If an atomic bomb won't rip open the vaults, how is anybody
gonna get inside to check out the material? So, I think 1000 years from
now somebody will be much more likely to take a stretch-break on the moon
and find those books than to accidentally stub their toe on an
underground vault and have some super-gonzo laser cannon to blow open the
container here on the war-ravaged or natural disaster destroyed earth.
I understand Lyman Spulock is head of CoST. Lyman, this idea's for
you. No charge. Your welcome.

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Post by J. Swift » Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:13 pm

What was I thinking? Why build a $100 million+ bunker out in the middle of nowhere and use it as a PR stunt?

The Essenes transmitted their scriptures by use of sealed clay pots hidden in a cave at Qumran. These pots lasted for 2,000 years and their contents became known the Dead Sea Scrolls. But for Ron's work a big huffle duffle is needed as he would have wanted.


Gold Base is situated near the San Andreas and other faults. Trementina is probably a redundant command center for Gold as well as serving as an actual shelter from a nuclear attack. My guess is that Trementina is primarily about protecting DM, Mead Emory, and the rest of the CST people far moreso than Ron's work.


I wonder if Scientology has preserved copies of Battlefield Earth in the vault? OT's millions of years from now will need to know how not to make a motion picture.


Are the actual works of LRH in the Trementina vault or are DM's squirreled versions down there?


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Post by Digger » Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:44 pm

It's easy to burn stolen money (energy) :x

There is my money in this s**t too, so i own a little piece of this s**t compound :x

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Post by Dr. Juan Gabriel » Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:16 pm

This surely must be the most incredible story in the history of the world, yes?

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