Sexual Abuse Covered up by C of S

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Post by magoo1 » Mon Aug 06, 2007 5:17 am

Do you think that shall help, no 8 C?

Honestly?

I'd like to know.

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Post by no_8c_now » Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:06 am

No, but what's your point? Most posts are about as pointless as my last one (though the thanks was real), but yet they continue to show up on the board. Giving the writer some small feeling of accomplishment and seeing what kind of response it may generate.

I guess you must think there is some hope yet that Tommy may "cog" or get "handled". Hey, the nice approach was tried before to no avail. People are now just frustrated with his flippant I know best attitude. So be it.

So long as the board stays unmoderated and people are free to post whatever they want on either side of the fence then I will call a spammer a spammer when I see one. Actually, I think my posts on this are rather tame, I could do a lot worse.

But (and some of you, cough tommy, could take some notes), I bother to consider what I post and the point I am trying to make, I take the time to edit it and make sure it is coherent, logical and hopefully spelled somewhat correctly. I aim for relevancy and non-repetitiveness and try to respond in a similar fashion. Or I could just do this....

git a life LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL :D :D :D :D :D :D :D i do what I want to handle the dam Evil CULT HO no_8c_now

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Post by magoo1 » Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:34 am

Keep up the good work, No_8c_now!

Sorry I asked that in the manner I did.

Have a great week :wink: and ROCK ON! :alien:

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Re: Sexual Abuse Covered up by C of S

Post by Os Wilkes » Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:00 pm

If the same thing as below happened to you, please visit this link:

http://asca.org.au/survivors/survivors_ ... ocess.html

If it DIDN'T happen to you, you should visit that link to find out what the REALITY about childhood sexual abuse is and how utterly destructive it is to protect molesters by allowing them to believe that their children "pulled in" molestation.

Here's another link. Scroll down to the cult and spiritual abuse sections:

http://www.asca.org.au/childabuse/ca_definitions.html
serenitynow wrote:I grew up fast, almost like someone was pushing me from behind yelling, "Be cause, make it go right!"? From the moment I joined Scientology with my family, I was heavily indoctrinated in the Scientology mindset. Ethics, morals and policy were bantered around my house daily. I believed whole-heartedly in the tech and audited others and they audited me.

Today I'm going to tell you about the Dianetics session where I had to relive something very painful and how to this day I regret ever telling my auditor what I told her that day.

You see, although my family appeared to be so on-purpose and dedicated, we had a dirty secret. My step-father had been molesting me for four years. And that day, in that cold metal chair, behind a partition in the Division Six courseroom, all the rage and fear I had held inside came rushing out.

My auditor asked me to locate an incident. It came up in my mind and I scrambled to think of something, anything else. I hated thinking of it, and it hadn't happened in so long. But I never knew when it would happen again. I was terrified, terrified if my mother knew that she would hate me, terrified that my siblings would hate me, terrified of what my step-dad would do if I told. I started to sweat in the chair, my closed eyes burning, as tears started to slip down my cheeks. My auditor persisted, and I could hear the excitement in her voice. Her thoughts were almost audible, "this is going to be good." I shook my head, "I can't think of anything," I managed to say. She just repeated the command. The acid in my stomach started to churn, as it always did when I thought of the abuse, and I had gotten good at pushing it to the back of my mind and getting through my days without thinking of it at all.

My voice cracked as I whispered my shame, my deepest darkest secret. I was met with silence. Then she asked me to tell her more. And I did, sobbing between each telling of it, until I couldn't cry any more and I was numb. She asked for details, and being 12 years old I didn't know what to say. I stammered and stuttered and she relentlessly pushed on. A cold feeling swept me from my head to my feet and I felt detached from it all. I told her that and she said "Good! Thanks for telling me." And ended the session.

I opened my eyes, and she was smiling at me, but there were mascara trails down her face. I could tell she had cried during my retelling. She took my hand, and I resisted the urge to pull it away. Back then, I didn't like it when anyone touched me. "Do you feel better?" she asked. I nodded.

Then I walked unsteadily to the bathroom and threw up. This was the first time I made myself throw up, and it would become a pattern for the next four years of my life.

After calming down, I was pulled into the Ethics Office. The Ethics Officer at the time was a very nice man. He looked highly uncomfortable. He asked me if I was ok, and he said he had seen the write-up on my session and wanted to talk about it. I told him I was tired of talking about it. I still felt the shame, the horror, and now it was all over my mind and I could no longer shut it out.

He asked me point blank if I planned to go to the authorities. I was surprised that he asked that. I said no, that it hadn't happened in a long time, and my mom didn’t even know. He looked very shocked at that and said, "Your mom has known for a year now, it came up in your step-dad's ethics cycle."

I felt the ultimate betrayal at that point. My mother had known, the ethics officers had known, and no one had done a damn thing about it.

I got angry at this point and asked him why no one had helped me if they knew. He said simply, "Everything that happens to you is what you pull in. You have to take responsibility for your lower condition in this."

I started crying, I told him that I had not asked to be molested. I told him that it scared me and I didn't know what I had done to cause it. I was truly upset at the thought of that, and at that moment an incredible sense of self-hatred came over me. He said simply that my step-dad had done his ethics handling and sec check and that I needed to come out of lower conditions on the 2-D. He told me emphatically that the only way I was ever going to get over this was to take responsibility.

I felt so ashamed, so sick, so upset. I did my lower conditions, but that feeling of revulsion stayed with me always. I never got over it. Even through all of my days in Scientology, including the Sea Org days, I battled an eating disorder and constant anxiety.

In the last six months I have come to be aware of what the truth really is. I have to thank my husband for that, and for sticking by me through all the drama. I have let go of a lot of my anger and self-loathing that I felt for years. I realize that I did not "pull in" the abuse, but rather a mentally ill man abused me and I was a victim. In Scientology, being a victim is considered a bad thing and I never wanted to be one. Well I WAS a VICTIM, and now I am a SURVIVOR. I survived sexual abuse, I survived the subsequent brainwashing, I survived a nervous eating disorder, and I survived Scientology.

I guess that's one reason I call myself Serenity Now.

So for all those who think that Scientology might not be that bad, or "it's the greatest good", I would like for you to remember me, remember the Sea Org kids in California molested by Wolly Hanks, remember Tommy Gorman's wife who was raped by a senior church official, and then ask yourself if the wonderful ethical church does the "greatest good" when it protects rapists and molesters and leaves their victims in shame.

Serenity Now

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Post by newclear » Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:18 am

Thanks for such a helpful link. I will be revisiting it many times. I was sexually abused at the age of 4 in the Mormon church. It has been almost 40 years of pain and shame and repression. I still have a long way to go to work through it. In case you were wondering, Scientology didn't help me here.

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Post by Os Wilkes » Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:54 am

newclear wrote:Thanks for such a helpful link. I will be revisiting it many times. I was sexually abused at the age of 4 in the Mormon church. It has been almost 40 years of pain and shame and repression. I still have a long way to go to work through it. In case you were wondering, Scientology didn't help me here.
Dear Newclear,

It happened to me too. I cannot see how Scienology has ever helped anybody but Scientology when presented with cases like ours.

Bless you for speaking up. Stats of abused kids need to be tallied. They cannot be tallied if kids won't speak up, for whatever reason.

When I was being molested I didn't speak up because I was afraid of breaking up my family. Some people are afraid of being denigrated or called whiners, babies, liars, delusional, etc.

Speaking up is necessary for healing. HAVE AT IT!!

If anybody attacks you for this, let me know, and I will take them down. Well, if I cannot do that, at least I can be on YOUR SIDE, which many people avoid doing because of the stigma.

That is THEIR CASE. Not the truth, but their own projection.

No child should be FORCED, CONNED OR COERCED into anything that serves an adult~!

Period the freakin end.

If anybody was forced, conned, connived, coerced, nagged, seduced into anything they didn't want to do, write it down and really validate it.

I will validate it if you think you need a reality check.

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Post by lermanet_com » Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:41 pm

Serenity Now's story and her first reply AND the Barbour article have been webbed in Lermanet.com's exit directory...
to assist scientologists to wake up and get the hell out. Thanks for bringing this thread to my attention.

Linked from The EXIT Pages
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/


URL for external links to articles mentioned in this thread is here:
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/sexual-abuse.htm


Serenity Nows other story is here:
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/serenitynow.htm
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Post by tommygormanxenu » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:13 am

serenitynow Please post anymore info when you can about your story. Scientology is a Cult that does not want people like you to post all the great true fact that happen to you because then more people will start telling things that happen to them and scientology will lose money and money is the main thing the Evil cult wants.

Keep telling the true harms of scientology.

Scientology is Evil to the core. SCIENTOLOGY PROTECTS RAPIST AND KILLS. Scientology ruins families and lives everyday. The only thing scientology can Clear is one bank account at a time

LRH was married 3 times which shows he could not stay with one wife.
L.Ron Hubbard was and evil man, crazy in the head schitzo, paranoid, psychopath, who was a psych drug taking, heavy drug using, wife beating alcoholic drunk, pathological liar, coward who let his 3rd wife go to prison for his crimes as he hid and ran away for the remaining years of his life from the FBI. L.Ron Hubbard died with psych drugs shot in his butt.
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Post by tommygormanxenu » Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:54 am

Roan Serenity may have posted that over a year ago but it should be known by all. I love to communicate the true harms of scientology and i will keep doing that. I will keep telling people to tell their stories even if people don't like me to do so. Again maybe this is all you do to flight scientology but this is just a little part of what i do.
This is my own opinion. I'd rather die speaking the truth about the harms of the cult of scientology than hide and be afraid.
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Post by PTS » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:58 am

Celebrity scientologist and Broadway actor James Barbour is in the news again.
That's right all of you COS celbrities KSW.



Ballet warns parents that actor faces sex charges
By JAY HANDELMAN



jay.handelman@heraldtribune.com

Sarasota Ballet of Florida sent a notice to parents this week that one of the actors working at the neighboring Asolo Repertory Theatre has been charged with a sex crime.

The letter to about 120 ballet students went out on Monday, the same day the cast of the Asolo's new production of "A Tale of Two Cities" arrived from New York to begin rehearsals.

Actor James Barbour, a Broadway veteran, faces five counts of criminal sex acts and sexual abuse involving a girl whom he met after a show in New York in 2001, when she was 15. She came forward with the allegations in 2006.

Barbour, 41, pleaded not guilty to the charges last December, and his attorney has sought to have them dismissed. Barbour could not be reached for comment on Tuesday.

Ann Logan, executive director of the Sarasota Ballet, said discussions were held for about two weeks with board members and ballet staff before she sent the letter.

"It was important for us to go about this in the right way," Logan said. "He has rights and we want to protect his rights, but we also have to consider the interest of our organization.

"We felt that this was a serious allegation and that it was something that we really needed to pay attention to."

Both the Asolo and the ballet are at the FSU Center for the Performing Arts, 5555 N. Tamiami Trail. Most of the ballet's students are under 18. The company also has one dancer and one trainee who are under 18.

Logan said she was told by Asolo managing director Linda DiGabriele about the charges against Barbour in late August -- about two weeks after his casting was announced by the show's New York publicist and three days after news of Barbour's casting and his criminal charges appeared on heraldtribune.com.

Asolo managing director DiGabriele said it was important for the theater to "act responsibly, and we did alert the ballet, because they do have women under 18. We also have cast members under the age of 18. We think we have taken the appropriate action."

She stressed that Barbour "hasn't been convicted of anything. In addition, to our knowledge, there have been no restrictions whatsoever on his activities or his ability to interact with young people by any judge or prosecutor."

The letter restates the ballet's school policy that parents should accompany their children to dance studios and pick them up after classes. Staff and teachers will also be greeting students as they arrive, Logan said. Rules have not always been so rigidly followed, she said, as parents have often dropped their children off in the parking lot.

Logan wrote to parents that the Asolo indicated it would take "all appropriate steps to ensure that it acts responsibly and that Mr. Barbour's activities will be strictly monitored."

DiGabriele said Barbour would likely be escorted or accompanied by others when he is moving from rehearsal rooms or around the building.

"A Tale of Two Cities," which will run at the Asolo Oct. 13-Nov. 18, is being considered for a Broadway engagement after it closes in Sarasota.

Barbour has been involved with the musical since 2005, DiGabriele said, and has been "instrumental in the development of the project."

She said he also was instrumental in the hiring of Michael Donald Edwards as the show's director, which came at about the same time Edwards was hired as the Asolo's producing artistic director.

Barbour, who will play Sydney Carton in "Tale," is a veteran of numerous Broadway musicals, including "Jane Eyre," "Urinetown," a recent revival of "Assassins" and a four-year run as the Beast in Disney's "Beauty and the Beast."


This report contains information from the Associated Press.

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Post by PTS » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:54 pm

The COS tries to legitimize James Barbour by putting him on their Human Rights Department web site.

Human Rights......indeed.

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Post by Dunvegan » Mon May 26, 2008 6:29 am

This is a very germane post...it is one of the main reasons "why we fight."

Worthy of discussion again...and for the people who follow the picket signs that say "Xenu.Net" to see.

This is one of our human rights issues.

It still continues today.

Any ideas on how we can condense this message into the space of a picket sign?

Any new information or stories on this very important topic?
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Post by ZenuEtrawl » Mon May 26, 2008 9:41 pm

There are some good overviews of the subject, like this one.

Then there are individual tales elsewhere, such as Beck's bizarre family life.

Many stories we can't use easily, like Mark Foley, who might qualify as a closet scientologist, but where proof may be lacking. And a large number of perps who we can't name because they were effectively covered for, and thus were never convicted. Other victims may be kept silent by litigation settlement agreements. The CoS lobbied for an exception to a law dealing with children molested by clergy, it's not hard to see why.

The crux of the problem is the combination of cult mentality, which places all responsibility on the victim, along with the scilon idea that "thetans have no age." In their eyes, a 12 year old is as capable of giving consent as anyone.

This topic brought back a memory for me. I forget whether I had yet reached the age of consent in my jurisdiction, but if I had, it was only by a matter of months. I was called into an exec's office, and hard-sell regged to have a relationship with a staff member who was old enough to be my parent. This staff member was lonely/randy, thought I was cute, and management had cut a deal where my services would help to keep the staff member loyal and productive. I complained about the age gap, and was admonished about thetans not having ages.

I'll end my story there, so as to leave the OSA guessing. I know that stories like that were common enough that what I've said won't clearly identify me. As the Anderson Report commented,
Scientology theories are in part at least responsible for the distorted attitude of scientologists towards sexual matters, for it is argued amongst some scientologists that to seduce a girl of, say, fifteen years of age would be of no moment, for the thetan has had many sexual experiences and really such a girl would be 76 trillion and 15 years old. And it is said amongst scientologists that if a girl of 15 years were to be upset when introduced to sexual relations at that age it would be because she had some enormous overt on sex in a past life. On this basis, a particular scientologist may well have considered it of little account that he was living as man and wife with a young girl of 15 or 16 years, who later at the age of l7 years was a staff auditor at the HASI.
As for how to turn that into a catchy sign, I'm not sure. Maybe something based on a mugshot of one of the few that were prosecuted? Since you're in SF, you might want to collaborate with the Gormans on this, I doubt that anyone knows the topic better than they do.
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Re: Sexual Abuse Covered up by C of S

Post by mr_bad » Tue May 31, 2011 5:27 am

Bumping this thread in light of another discovery of a sexual abuse cover-up this piece of shit cult is responsible for.
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Re: Sexual Abuse Covered up by C of S

Post by Sentinel » Tue May 31, 2011 2:32 pm

*sighs*

Okay, let's see if I can explain myself without drawing too much artillery fire.

Let me point something important first:
What happened to serenitynow and all the other who were abused is horrible, not condonable and in any and all its parts, heinous. I sincerely feel for them, as I well remember the rough treatment I got when my father came home drunk.

But I have to say this: what we are discussing here is, IMHO, not an exclusive of Scientology, or any particular cult or group: and I'm not talking just about the abuses, I'm talking about the convenient shift of the blame. It's like dressing a rotten corpse with a multitude of different dress: what's inside them does not change.

I've heard, read, and watched the same stories in Scientology, the Branch Davidians, the Family, Christianity, Islam, and any and all denominations, philosophies and school of thoughts. I even have some personal accounts (not to me, to people I knew): "it was HER fault to go around dressed like THAT!"
And THAT is the most disgusting thing: to try to turn the victim into the perpetrator. Yes, the famous "you brought this in". You didn't really thought it was a Scientology exclusive, didn't you? You want to know when I heard that first? From a Catholic priest.

And now, before being bombarded by accusation of being an OSA troll, I'll wrap my point up with the following statements:
ONE - I'm not only an atheist, I'm a firm believer EVERY religion, cult, sect, or whatever is a blight on the planet. I don't proselityze nor strut around saying everyone but me is wrong, but that's my opinion and I intend to voice it as it is my right.
TWO - I praise, support and appreciate the effort of everyone involved to root out and expose such abominable practices. I posted this long winded rant just to warn you not to think that such things happen ONLY in Scientology. Look around you, guys, the dark pits are EVERYWHERE, and you may find them where you least expect them.

My 2 cents.
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