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Dr. Donna Shannon



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:13 am    Post subject: ANOTHER OT8 SPEAKS OUT
Subject description: My husband's story, just posted on "Through the Door"
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My husband, Mike Henderson, just wrote his first post under his real name!

You can read it here:
http://alley.ethercat.com/cgi-bin/door/door.cgi?188
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Come away, come away if you're goin',
leave the sinkin' ship behind." -John C. Fogerty, Creedence Clearwater Revival


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daisy



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The destruction of families due to scientology has affected so many. I'm truly sorry that your family has to go through this. I wish I could find the words to ease the pain for your dad. He is lucky that you and Dr Shannon can now be with him.

Thank you Mike for telling your story.
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tommygormanxenu



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. Donna Shannon wow that was great. I want to thank him for telling his story and taking so much time to do so. I am sorry you 2 had this happen. He is helping so so many people right now by doing this. Thanks again for speaking the true harms of scientology. I feel for his father because that is really sad. His father is very lucky he has you 2. Keep up the great posts k. I would love to meet the 2 of you. Scientology is an Evil cult and sucks. IMHO Tommy Gorman
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SchwimmelPuckel



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's good news! - And welcome on the outside to Mike Henderson! Very Happy

OT8!? - Time for asking the ever pressing question: Is this what you actually studied? - Cof$ officially denies and say it's a forgery to smear the cult.

HCOB 5 MAY '80 - OT VIII Series I. Student Briefing

This is where Hubbard stated that he was 'lucifer' and that Jesus was a 'lover of young boys and men':

Quote:
"No doubt you are familiar with the Revelations section of the Bible where various events are predicted. Also mentioned is a brief period of time in which an arch-enemy of Christ, referred to as the anti-Christ, will reign and his opinions will have sway. All this makes for very fantastic, entertaining reading but there is truth in it. This anti-Christ represents the forces of Lucifer (literally, the "light bearers" or "light bringer"), Lucifer being a mythical representation of the forces of enlightenment, the Galactic Confederacy. My mission could be said to fulfill the Biblical promise represented by this brief anti-Christ period."
··/··
"For those of you whose Christian toes I may have stepped on, let me take the opportunity to disabuse you of some lovely myths. For instance, the historic Jesus was not nearly the sainted figure has been made out to be. In addition to being a lover of young boys and men, he was given to uncontrollable bursts of temper and hatred that belied the general message of love, understanding and other typical Marcab PR."

Found at Karin Spainks site: The Fishman Affidavit

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Henderson

Excellent post!

I am sorry for your father. Disconnection is such a disgusting policy.

It is great that you write the truth about SCN.

I am sure that you and Donna are a huge pain in the neck/ass of SCN.
OSA must "love" you to death. Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SchwimmelPuckel great point because I want to know the same thing.

Mike Henderson did you ever get your interview on video tape some where ? Your interview was very detailed and i am sure it would look great on video. If it is not yet then please get it on video so it can be on xenutv. OSA would really love you for that one lololol.

OT8!? - Time for asking the ever pressing question: Is this what you actually studied? - Cof$ officially denies and say it's a forgery to smear the cult.

HCOB 5 MAY '80 - OT VIII Series I. Student Briefing

This is where Hubbard stated that he was 'lucifer' and that Jesus was a 'lover of young boys and men':

Mike Henderson keep speaking the true harms of scientology because you do it so well and I am sure your interview will get many to speak out too. I hope your interview is on video because that will help so many and make it so everyone can see it. As we know some people don't like to read large things.

Great job Mike Henderson. Scientology ruins families and it needs to be stopped. IMHO Tommy Gorman
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Dr. Donna Shannon



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Come away, come away if you're goin',
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:56 am    Post subject: another ot 8 speaks out
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Come away, come away if you're goin',
leave the sinkin' ship behind." -John C. Fogerty, Creedence Clearwater Revival


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Hubbard's Mushroom



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhhh...sure, this stuff works?

++++++++++Sacred Cult Scripture++++++++++

"Really, from death back to assumption of a new body and
so on, is ordinarily a time period of about fifteen minutes,
and he has three engrams in those fifteen minutes: 1) The
death, 2) The wipeout and implant between lives, and 3)
The assumption - knocking out the GE and taking over a body
at birth. Very interesting.

All right. You'll run into these things with pcs. That's
the only reason I'm talking to you about it, not to romance
with you.

A body in pawn utilizes not the thetan but ridges. Here's
some of the most fascinating things. They'll take a thetan
and they'll build up ridges, and these ridges will act like
personalities, and because their wavelength is known, they
can be monitored."

- L Ron Hubbard 'The Role of Earth' November 1952

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! Thanks for clarifying that, Mike about it is YOU saying "It works", not your wife. I was reading that thinking, "Either she or I have had some sort of brain malfunction----I KNOW she wouldn't say that!" Wink

CONGRATULATIONS ON COMING OUT!!!! Cheerleader alien cheers Dancing Bouncing Big Grin Woohoo

Excellent!! As you may know, I know quite a few of your family, and like them very much. I'm SO Proud of you!! Coming out, when you have SO many family "in" is huge. I really appreciate you speaking out. I can't say I agree with you, re the "OT" levels, and they working unless someone is set up. The "Set ups" are just more mind control, Shocked but hey, that's my opinion Wink

Either way, PLEASE keep speaking out, telling your tale, sharing your views! ALL are appreciated here, imnsho.

If you ever would like to talk, just give me a call.

My best to you~~~ cheers

Tory/Magoo~~Your local, Friendly SP Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes congradulations to Dr. Shannon and Mr. Mike on getting out.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, I did get your e-mail and got the message. Thank's. Very Happy - But I screwed up an deleted it together with the usual 37 spammails with viruses. I realized when I wanted to answer. I bellowed a loud and ceremonial 'F*#§¤ck!' since that was all I could do.

It kind of annoys me that the OT8 looks to be false. But I'm not all that surprized.. Lots of escaped GO and OSA adepts are in the field, reversing favors I guess.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:02 pm    Post subject: another ot8 speaks out Reply with quote

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Come away, come away if you're goin',
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike,

I hope you stay. I've posted for years the things I think work in Scientology, and I've been willing to listen to the critics questions, and answer them. I admit, they've helped me greatly. There was TONS I didn't know.

My now X-Husband's parents were with Hubbard from 1950, so I heard many great stories about him. However, I have to also LOOK at all the facts that I didn't know, nor did they. Yes, he was a very charismatic guy.
For me, personally, it pisses me off greatly that I fought C of S for years (and don't say it was just them, not Hubbard--as he wrote NOTS, certainly OT 3--all implying one can handle physical problems with auditing, which I fought for years, and nearly died because of)--only to find out when I left that Hubbard was ON medicines (and even drugs!) all during this time.
That's just one irritation of mine.

You've just come from the land of Hubbard being the king, the best, all good, can do no wrong. I suggest you spend some time reading and learning the other side, and continue to talk here, too.
Your views are welcome.
Communication is stopped in C of S Shocked ..it's alive and well here. People have views, and many are different from yours. So? Keep talking....or don't...it's your choice. I hope you do.

I love your wife, she's been a huge help here! Wink

Grab some coffee (or tea if that's your fancy) and chat awhile.

You must *might* learn something, and you most assuredly will help
others----many you'll never even hear from. Bottom line: You don't owe anyone anything. You don't *have* to post or speak out AT ALL. If you'd like to, please do. If you don't want to----please don't. And have fun, whatever you do!! You're finally free from the chains that have stopped much live communications.

Blessings to you, Mike Wink angel7.gif

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for posting your story, Mike. I, too, had great wins from the tech, which was what made me stay way too long (like many of us here). Some times I wonder if what happened to us was similar to taking drugs, the practice was making us euphoric rather than the drugs and we were told and rationalized that it was gains towards higher spiritual awareness. Yet, in the long run the tech does not deliver what is promises. The most obvious evidence of this is that there is no push whatsoever to have staff go up the Bridge. If you became so much more capable and competent by going up the Bridge, wouldn't that (getting the staff up) be the most vital, first priority thing for management to do. My question is, if you look honestly within yourself and compare you to other people who have lived a spiritual life with honor and integrity, are you better off for having done the full Bridge. An OT VIII once told me that he was sure that when he left his current body he would be in charge of where he was going. Can you relate to that?
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