Was L. Ron Hubbard Given a Pre-Frontal Lobotomy?

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Was L. Ron Hubbard Given a Pre-Frontal Lobotomy?

Post by J. Swift » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:47 am

We know that LRH was a patient for about one year in Oak Knoll Naval Hospital in 1945. He complained of an ulcer and conjunctivitis. I have a report now in my hands that claims LRH was under psychiatric care at Oak Knoll. I will lay that aside for now while I check the treating psychiatrists name. It seems that LRH may have been given a lobotomy in 1945, or perhaps even 1949, in a US Navy Hospital. If this happened, it could explain LRH's sensational hatred of psychiatry. LRH's hatred of psychiatry has now metamorphosed into a plethora of front groups:

http://www.naturalfamilyblog.com/archiv ... rauds.html

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The conventional explanation of LRH's hatred towards psychiatry that has been uncritically accepted by critics is so simple, and yet could ultimately prove to be the greatest diversion in the history of Scientology criticism. There is widespread acceptance of the belief that LRH hated psychiatry and wanted to destroy it so that Scientology could obtain a monopoly on mental health. This would allow the Cult to make a fortune and to control the minds of all by means of its pernicious e-meter.

But what if it was more visceral with LRH? What if he had personally suffered a lobotomy, sexual abuse, and other horrors at the hands of psychiatrists in US Navy hospitals?

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Here is what we know:

1. LRH's father was a US Navy Officer: Lt. Cmdr. Harry Ross. This would have made LRH eligible for treatment in US Navy hospitals as a dependent of an officer.

2. Commander Snake Thompson, so Scientology's shore story goes, taught the twelve year old LRH Freudian psychotherapy. In my new theory, LRH was a patient of a US Navy psychiatrist Commander Thompson -- which is perhaps a fake name -- at a US Naval Hospital in Washington D.C.

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Question: Was LRH being treated for psychiatric problems by an abusive US Navy psychiatrist when he was twelve years old? Did his psychiatrist molest him?

3. Now comes a document into my possession which shows that LRH debarked the SS Caomo on August 29, 1932. The ship had left San Juan, Puerto Rico on August 25, 1932 and sailed to the Port of New York where LRH debarked. The passenger list of US Citizens shows LRH's home address in the US to be the US Naval Hospital in Washington D.C.

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LRH was in the US Marines in this period and so would have qualified for government hospitalization and/or the psychiatric care of the time which could range from bed rest, therapy, medicine, to a full-fledged lobotomy.

Question: Why was LRH living in a US Naval Hospital in 1932?

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The following year, LRH once again sailed on the SS Caomo from San Juan, Puerto Rico on April 6, 1933. He listed his home address as P.O. Box 6, Beallsville, Maryland. Beallsville is very near Bethesda Naval Hospital.


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As an aside, LRH made trips to Puerto Rico in 1932 and 1933 on a commercial steamship, the SS Caomo. CoS makes much of Ron's trips to Puerto Rico, however, my research did not locate any sailing manifests of the four-masted schooner Doris Hamlin leaving the US for Puerto Rico.
He directed two expeditions, the Caribbean Motion Picture Expedition, a two-and-a-half month, 5,000-mile voyage aboard the four-masted schooner, Doris Hamlin, and the West Indies Mineralogical Expedition, which completed the first mineralogical survey of the island of Puerto Rico under US rule. Upon his return to the United States, and with scientific grants few and far between, he began to write his way to fame and fortune, supporting his research by becoming one of the most popular writers of the 1930s.
ref: http://www.scientology.org/p_jpg/wis/wi ... is3_1o.htm

I am certain that Danny Sherman has the documentation for LRH's trips on the Doris Hamlin.

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Post by J. Swift » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:00 am

Even CoS' official biographical paintings of LRH shows us a lost soul in the 1930's, someone taken to staring blankly out of windows as if in a trance:

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In the next CoS bio painting, are we actually looking at LRH lying in the bed, his head wrapped in gauze from the damage caused by the "electrodes" of a pre-frontal lobotomy? If so, the officer at LRH's beside is likely the attending psychiatrist who performed the lobotomy. I say this because LRH was not a doctor of any kind. The doctors at Oak Knoll Naval Hospital would have never allowed LRH to experiment upon wounded combat soldiers in the cavalier fashion that LRH later claimed.

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Do we next see in the painting below LRH recovering from his lobotomy? Does the patient appear to happy because his delusional state of being a war hero remained intact? Or is he simply delirious? Please note that the patient is also red-haired so as to blur all distinctions. Was the painter wanting to communicate a secret about LRH to someone who could see the painting through different eyes, say a Sadhu?

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IMO, LRH -- if he had been given a lobotomy -- he underwent the ordeal at Oak Knoll in 1945 for symptoms of mental illness that did not respond to drugs.

The point to be made is this: The US Navy had trained medical doctors and would never have allowed a malingerer like LRH to play psychotherapist on wounded WWII soldiers at Oak Knoll Naval Hospital. LRH's claims to have done work and research into the human mind at Oak Knoll on wounded soldiers is a pure fabrication that only gullible idiots would believe. It is infuriating to me that LRH lied in this manner and that the Church of Scientology uses such an obvious lie to support Dianetics and Scientology. This is how Scientology uses lie after lie to perpetuate the myth of its God, L. Ron Hubbard.


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Post by J. Swift » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:04 am

Two questions arise.

First, who was the strange, theta-animated, fast-talking man who stepped onto the world stage in 1950 with his book Dianetics? What demons were at work deep in his spirit, hidden away from both himself and the public by booze and pills? Had LRH been lobotomized in a US Naval hospital? Had LRH been savagely treated by US Navy psychiatrists? Did LRH write Dianetics as part of a deeply personal and painful crusade against psychiatry?

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Second, when read from my vantage point as a Jungian, the very strange series of LRH biographical paintings seem to me be a series of coded admissions about the true LRH. Did the painter hide the truth about LRH in plain sight?


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Post by J. Swift » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:12 am

Finally, we sometimes see the Stockholm Syndrome wherein victims identify with their captors. Was LRH the ultimate example of the Stockholm Syndrome? By donning a Sea Org uniform and tormenting others with an electrical e-meter, did LRH collapse mentally and become a US Navy psychiatrist who was hell bent to mentally and spiritually destroy others? In the final analysis, did LRH become Commander Thompson?

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Post by Roan » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:44 am

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If my memory serves me correctly, didn't Dr. Juan Gabriel, the famed Brazilian psychiatrist do some research into this area?

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Post by spacecootie » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:52 am

Seems to me ol' El Rum Hubbard was the kind of guy who'd say

I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me
Than a pre-frontal lobotomy.


Especially if said bottle was full of pinks and grays.

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Post by Marcab21 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:21 pm

According to availabe books on Jack Parsons, the OTO group required not only participation in group rituals, but presentation of an actual original thesis of spiritual learning, to advance status within that organization.
Parsons did it about 1946. Dianetics could be seen as LRH's thesis of about 1947, although it was released later.

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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:51 pm

Hubbard talked often of lobotomies.

+++++++++Sacred Cult Scripture++++++++++++++

As a matter of fact, you could take the subject of Black
Dianetics— a very simple subject—and use this material.
You hit somebody over the head, shoot him in the arm
with some sodium pentothal or something like that—rat
poison, whiskey, anything poisonous—and stamp on him
so it doesn’t leave a bruise or anything, and then you read
him off an engram with all kinds of phrases in it.

He would wake up and not be aware of what had happened
to him, and neither would anybody else.

This is not against the law, by the way. The only person who
could complain is him—and you would have told him to
forget it. It is not against the law. Any time he went up to
the D.A.’s office and said "Do you know that so-and-so
knocked me out and read me an engram and kicked me
in the stomach while he was doing it?" they would say,
"Yes, yes," and send for a psychiatrist. The psychiatrist
would come up, take out his pince-nez, look at him and
say, "These are the symptoms of paranoia. Yes, that’s the
way all paranoiacs act, and that’s what they claim—that
somebody has drugged them. You have to send him to
the insane asylum." And they would send him to the insane
asylum and give him electric shock or give him a prefrontal
lobotomy.

That is Black Dianetics.


— L. Ron Hubbard
Lecture 12 November 1951 Basic Postulates

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Post by Os Wilkes » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:54 pm

Dear J. Swift,

Yeah, the ONI and OSS were creating a lot of "U-Boats" as they called them in those days. It makes perfect sense that L. Ron and Parsons (a scientific asset and potential security problem) hooked up and that they believed in supernatural effects. Believing in supernatural effects causes one to rationalize artifacts of hypnosis.

Yeah, he could have had a "mechanical attitude adjustment" while in hospital. Not likely at that age. They usually save the mechanicals for times when the unit's INTACT BRAIN has become less useful because invasive procedures leave COLLATERAL DAMAGE. IMO, it was much more likely that he was drugged and hypnotized, and tortured while under trance. That's SOP anyhow. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

NOW, he could have had an attitude adjustment in his later years when he wigged out. However, he took extraordinary precautions not to be brought into custody after his stint in the Naval Hospital. This is also symptomatic of one who was hypnoprogrammed for espionage purposes in those days. That is because although you do not consciously remember being PROCESSED, your subconscious does. So, Elron would have avoided DOCTORS, DENTISTS, PSYCHIATRISTS, HOSPITALS, CLINICS and anything that had that kind of charge attached. Engrams, if you will.

He expressed the affect of this trauma by acting it out... on every Scientologist. This is part of what he was programmed to do. SO of course he would have been trained to do it while being processed- hence his report of tampering with other inmates while in. His programming is augmented by his natural human urge to purge the trauma by acting it out- hence L. Ron trains Scientologists to process the next generation of Scientologists, he trains them to fear doctors of all kinds and especially psychiatrists who he labels as vivisectionists and torturers (they actually were to HIM) and lastly maintains an environment mimicking a Naval Intelligence operation. This all kept L. Ron restimulated, and made him a perfect zombie.

So, actually I agree with you except that I think lobotomy before deployment is contraindicated. First, you keep the brain intact, that failing you damage it selectively (fix it), that failing R2-45 (fix it permanently). And Elron tried valiantly not to be reaccessed by the people who did him to begin with.

Your theory is brilliant and I think you should keep running with it.


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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:55 pm

Hubbard defines his original goal for Dianetics and places his
science in the province of medicine and psychiatry.

He said Dianetics would replace lobotomies.

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The original goal was to provide expedition commanders and
doctors with a therapy tool which would increase the efficiency
of personnel and reduce incidence of personnel failure.
Dianetics, after eleven years of research and testing, bit off
a trifle more than it had bargained for. There had been no
intention to go holistic and solve the ills of mankind. That it
began to cure psychosomatic illnesses such as arthritis,
migraine, ulcers, coronary, asthma, frostbite, bursitis,
allergies, etc., etc., that it did quick things about mental
derangement on the institutional level and began to replace
that strange barbarism, the prefrontal lobotomy, was entirely
outside the initial scheme of research. That it would now sail
off on a new course to chase down the cause of cancer and
cure it was not on the chart.

If it does these things, as it appears to be doing, it is in the
medical and psychiatric province. No such intentions existed
when the terra incognita of the mind was explored for its
answers. It was intended as a tool for the expedition
commander and doctor who are faced with choosing
personnel and maintaining that personnel in good health.
It is hoped that to these it will be of good value. If it is not,
then despite acclaim, it will in some measure have failed.

— L. Ron Hubbard
Article: Terra Incognita: The Mind 1949/1950

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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:02 pm

He says the prefrontal lobotomy is used to "inhibit odious
conduct in present time. "

+++++++++++Sacred Cult Scripture+++++++++++++++

PSYCHOTHERAPY, 1. is an effort to remove neurosis and
psychosis from man by immediate address to the individual
and the group. (LPLS 1, 5510C08) 2. a series of processes
by which the past is addressed to remedy the present or by
which physical matter, such as the human brain, is rearranged
(as in a prefrontal lobotomy) in order to inhibit odious conduct
in present time. (Scn Jour 14-G)

— L. Ron Hubbard
Dianetics and Scientology Technical Dictionary

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Post by smitty » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:11 pm

Why doesn't someone write the old geezer and ask him?

http://myspaceprofiles.org/profiles/103531909.html

Or better yet, offer him a mint.........

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Post by I'mglib » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:11 pm

Oh, dear.

I have a bad feeling about this thread.

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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:24 pm

Hubbard is obsessed with the prefrontal lobotomy.

+++++++++++Sacred Cult Scripture+++++++++++++++

You will read, in texts of ancient cults which have been taken
out of the ruins of the New York American Psychiatric
Association, notations to the effect that immediately after a
death in the family people become sexually promiscuous, or
something of the sort. This is really true! You take some widow
who is crying in her beer or somebody who has just lost
somebody, and there is a setup. But it is this kind of a setup:
It has beautiful drapes hung around it and a beautifully
festooned arbor—with a land mine sitting in the center of it!
This case has really one ambition: this case is trying to die,
but it would be a little more successful if it could make you die,
too!

So, as an auditor, the wrong way to open up the accessibility
of this case would be to sleep with it. I merely put that in as
a gentle caution, not because anything like that happens in
Dianetics, but because it was so prevalent in psychiatry
before psychiatry collapsed. As a matter of fact, I speak with
complete authority on the matter. I would never say anything
about psychiatry without authoritative references. There is a book
by Dr. Frieda Fromm-Reichmann, Principles of Intensive
Psychotherapy. You ought to read that book someday; it beats
a comic book. It says the psychiatrist should be very, very
wary indeed of taking out all of his satisfaction on his patients.
It says you shouldn’t do that all the time. It also says psychiatrists
should stay awake and that the practice of sleeping around the
patient while the patient is talking is not as prevalent in modern
schools as it was a few years ago, and it is gradually dying out.

You are actually living in a different atmosphere entirely
than psychotherapy had. There is a different climate in
Dianetics, and you really ought to look it over and find out what
kind of a climate psychotherapy had, as an archaeological fact.

Now, the reason psychotherapy could fall into these booby
traps was that it did not have its goal well aligned. This is, bluntly,
true. Its goal was never defined, actually. You look in vain; you
won’t find a precisely defined goal for psychotherapy. You will
find, stated in texts on psychopathology and around in the
field occasionally, that what they are trying to do is adjust an
individual to his environment, but you will not find much of
an amplification of that. And that, of course, you recognize to
be a very dangerous thing to do. To adjust a man well to his
environment is dangerous, because there is nothing quite so
changing as this environment.

One of these days—next week, next month, next year, five
years from now or twenty years from now—somebody is going
to dump a cargo of atom bombs on America, and we won’t have
soda pop and so forth and the environment is going to shift to
some slight degree. If the environment were to suddenly shift,
and if everyone were well adjusted to this environment of
jukeboxes and all the rest of it, and none of us were able to
make a campfire or boil beans or make a rabbit trap or something
of the sort—if there weren’t some people still holding on to
techniques which adjusted them to other environments elsewhere
and we did not have the adaptability of adjusting to this brand-
new environment—we would really be dead ducks. So adjusting
to the environment is non survival. Therefore it is not a good goal.

Now, if adjusting to the environment is non survival, that would
postulate that doing so would send people down the tone scale;
this is exactly what those psychotherapies accomplished. It is a
very funny thing, but the modus operandi of the electric shock,
the prefrontal lobotomy, insulin shock—all of these things—
depresses a person on the tone scale or cuts out his endowment
to some slight degree. We find that this is a dangerous thing to do!

If a psychotherapy continues along in that line, it will eventually
place in a country a preponderance of insane. It might be that
the number of insane in the country could get up to 19 millions;
it just might. As a matter of fact it has. That goal, then, sends people
down the tone scale. But that goal has not been evaluated.


— L. Ron Hubbard
Lecture 26 June 1951: Chart of Human Evaluation Part I

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Post by Os Wilkes » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:41 pm

J. Swift wrote:Finally, we sometimes see the Stockholm Syndrome wherein victims identify with their captors. Was LRH the ultimate example of the Stockholm Syndrome? By donning a Sea Org uniform and tormenting others with an electrical e-meter, did LRH collapse mentally and become a US Navy psychiatrist who was hell bent to mentally and spiritually destroy others? In the final analysis, did LRH become Commander Thompson?

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Dear J. Swift,

That is brilliant and right on- but I am not sure the individual known as Thompson is the one L. Ron emulates.

I have given this a lot of thought, and initially assumed Thompson was the object, but I discarded that because of the cat thing. If L. Ron was bonded that completely to Thompson, cats would figure prominently in Scientology because they figured prominently in Thompson's life. Thompson's cat attachment would have created a charge about cats in Elron that he would try to blow either positively or negatively. To blow that charge positively, Elron might have included cats in the cosmology of Scientology (for example, references to Bastet) and perhaps embued them with some kind of mystical significance. To blow the charge negatively, Hubbard would have forbidden the keeping of cats, and may even have insisted on destroying cats. I find no reference to any charge on cats, so this makes me scratch my head about how far Thompson actually got into Hubbard.

My current thinking is that Thompson was transitory in Hubbard's life to briefly fill his need for a father figure, to train him to be responsive to anyone filling that psychological niche, and to perform a psychological profile on him. A profile is necessary to screen for suggestibility and to make sure his handler knows all the right psychological buttons to press to get optimum results.

I think the one Hubbard really bonded with remained unknown and probably unknowable to Hubbard. In other words, Hubbard would not have been able to remember him, and certainly would not have been able to speak or write his name in public unless he came out of the induced amnesia.

Hubbard coming out of the aether was not likely based on my observation of what appears to be a very tight and constantly restimulated running program.

But yes, he certainly is the poster child for Stockholm Syndrome as he acted out the role of those aggressors who damaged him until he could act no more.

Very tragic.


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