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stargazer



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lady in the orange to to the left of DM looks like she's wearing two different shoes.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject:
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Old Bomber wrote:
I hate to have to burst your bubble, but the curvature on the columns and walls is caused by the use of a wide angled lens. It is called barrel distortion.
As far as any Photo-shopping being done, I agree that an original high def picture would be needed to be sure.

Old Bomber

No bubble burst here OB. I assumed a wide angle lens with digital processing on its two axes. Without digital processing, there would be a matching inward distortion on the bottom of the photo. The barrel distortion effect is caused by a round lens and is a 360 degree optical distortion, or a barrel. We are both right in that someone shot with a wide angle lens and then someone digitally edited this photo into a strange composition.

I still think that someone has been photoshopped out.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am into three posts on this thread making this comment.

Kirstie could be using one of these.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stargazer wrote:
The lady in the orange to to the left of DM looks like she's wearing two different shoes.

Isn't she the woman who was so excited about being OT VII or VIII? I forget the details, but a picture of her frozen, ecstatic face was widely ridiculed. (Someone here has it as an avatar, I think....)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As J. Swift pointed out through his source that DM is out of proportion (he is
wider than a human being would be). I decided to look into it myself. I have
a forward view articulated skeleton which I scaled it and corrected for the
camera angle and overlaid it.

DM is out of proportion, either he is a Neanderthal or he has been stretched width wise was out of scale.



As you can see I was able to scale the Nancy skeleton overlay to show she is essentially correct. I couldn't completely angle it properly because I have only a 2D skeleton and Nancy is twisted in reference to the camera but it is enough to show proper proportionality (whereas DM is almost straight on).
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RWT, fantastic work and thanks for the help. DM's jacket must be padded with layers and layers of foam to make him look large. The skeletal overlay shows that the DM we see is not anatomically correct. DM's face looks very wide in the photo compared to his normally thin face. The overlay of a proportionate skull on his widened face shows a stretching effect.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In addition to the observation that Miscavige has ended up with the arms of a monkey, there is another glaring error in this composition. About six or seven rows back, the heads of the "OTs" from there back, are too small. It certainly looks like the group in front has been superimposed on the back group, that the front image has been overlaid over the back group. This would be easy to do with photoshop. The outcome is to give the impression that there were a large number present, when there were very few.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Mystery revealed! Reply with quote

That earlier photo is certainly a fake. An SO source of mine managed to obtain a cropped version of the original from the secret Int archives. It seems that David Miscavige was completely unaware of what was actually going on behind his back.

Here we see the true identity of the man with his arm around Nancy Cartwright's waist. That's the sort of toyboy Scientology provides celebrities with when you donate ten million bucks to the Midget Führer's coffers. Forget about getting to bang your hot RTC auditor in the celeb auditing rooms - (special bed provided) - ten million bucks gets you your own personal headless body to control.

OT Sea Org photographers have long been able to photograph the headless bodies that most of us can't see. They are often used to swell the numbers at poorly-attended Scientology events.

Kirstie Alley is about to attest to Operating Weight Level VIII after a successful paper bag rundown.

DM blew a gasket when he saw the original proof: "Where do all these people come from? I'm surrounded by SPs! They're everywhere! Everyone is ordered to the RPF! Just let me chew this priceless oriental rug in peace!"


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Mystery revealed! Reply with quote

vongole wrote:


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Wow! The "truth" comes out: DM is "actually" being paid by Anonymous to destroy Scientology! Just when I thought I had it all figured out...

Does OSA know about this?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Mystery revealed! Reply with quote

vongole wrote:
Here we see the true identity of the man with his arm around Nancy Cartwright's waist. That's the sort of toyboy Scientology provides celebrities with when you donate ten million bucks to the Midget Führer's coffers. Forget about getting to bang your hot RTC auditor in the celeb auditing rooms - (special bed provided) - ten million bucks gets you your own personal headless body to control.

OT Sea Org photographers have long been able to photograph the headless bodies that most of us can't see. They are often used to swell the numbers at poorly-attended Scientology events.

LOL! Thanks, I needed a laugh. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even with the large amounts of money that CO$ possesses, they obviously can't find a person who's remotely skilled to do their photoshops.
I'm sure Nancy has a heart-shaped cut-out of herself and David nicely framed next to her bed.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Mystery revealed! Reply with quote

vongole wrote:
That earlier photo is certainly a fake. An SO source of mine managed to obtain a cropped version of the original from the secret Int archives. It seems that David Miscavige was completely unaware of what was actually going on behind his back.

Here we see the true identity of the man with his arm around Nancy Cartwright's waist. That's the sort of toyboy Scientology provides celebrities with when you donate ten million bucks to the Midget Führer's coffers. Forget about getting to bang your hot RTC auditor in the celeb auditing rooms - (special bed provided) - ten million bucks gets you your own personal headless body to control.

OT Sea Org photographers have long been able to photograph the headless bodies that most of us can't see. They are often used to swell the numbers at poorly-attended Scientology events.

Kirstie Alley is about to attest to Operating Weight Level VIII after a successful paper bag rundown.

DM blew a gasket when he saw the original proof: "Where do all these people come from? I'm surrounded by SPs! They're everywhere! Everyone is ordered to the RPF! Just let me chew this priceless oriental rug in peace!"



Now THAT is funny I needed a laugh today and that did the trick!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J. Swift wrote:
What still does not make sense to me is the hand on Nancy Cartwright's hip. I had my friend Dr. X analyze the photo at the Crime Lab using 3D forensic bone structure overlay. His forensic opinion is that the hand can only belong to the man in the blue shirt if there were additional optical games played in the photo that he did not care to analyze.
The man in the blue shirt does bear a resemblance to Steve Brackett, the fiance of Nancy Cartwright.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, double post

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you compare Blue-shirt's arms to Kirstie's arms, you could imagine that the Blue-shirt's wrist touched the back of Nancy and were
enormous enough to wrap around. But are there are fingers on the other side of Nancy, or it is too blurry to tell?

If there are fingers on the other side, then Blue-shirt couldn't have put them there. Then, the man-sized hands on
Nancy could have been a man who was photoshopped OUT. Look at the blue shirt on the man behind Nancy -
the color is uneven in a kind of oval where a man's face would have gone. The name tag on the blue shirt is dim gray.
Compare to the wide group photo where every other name tag is bright white.
Also, David's pant leg looks super-wide - as if to blur out another man's pants.
Nancy divorced in 2005, and it simply could have been a boyfriend who she broke up with between the photo-shoot and the photo publishing.
Or the person could have been a recently disconnected brother to Nancy, who comes from a big family.
Or we're just overly suspicious.


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