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lermanet_com

Joined: 27 Sep 2002 Posts: 4148 Location: Hop-Skip Away from Scientology TODAY!
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject:
Shawn Lonsdale Found dead
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I'm very sorry to be the bearer of this news. 2:20 PM Monday Feb 18th
I just received a telephone call, from a reliable source, in Clearwater,
Shawn Lonsdale was found dead in his room, a hose had been connected
from the exhaust of his car and run into a window.
the police are investigating.
I have no further data so don't ask me...
The original poster on ARS was at 12:23 AM on the 17th..midnight of the 16th/17th...
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Shawn Lonsdale was a videographer who was shooting film in clearwater of the scientologists and putting it on the Pinellas Public Access Channel
above guy that attacked him on the street in clearwater
He was attacked in clearwater by a Scientologist while he was filming LINK ( and links to deposition below)
He was deposed by scientology after accepting $100 from someone named on the old anti-picketing injunction in Clearweter, a ms patricia greenway. His deposition by scientology , caused by that 'gift', is here: LINK
He later appeared on the BBC UK special on Scientology with John Sweeny, famous for the shouting match...
Then he dropped out of sight... and the news until now.
A unknown poster posted that he was dead at 12:23AM the night of feb 16th/17th on the 17th to the ARS newsgroup
The orginal post 36 hours ago:
anonny...@yahoo.com
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Just received word from a reliable source that he heard from a reliable source that Shawn Lonsdale is dead of apparent suicide. Anyone can confirm?
More options Feb 17, 12:28 am
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
From: anonny...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:28:37 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Feb 17 2008 12:28 am
Subject: Shawn Lonsdale suicide?
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Just received word from a reliable source that he heard from a
reliable source that Shawn Lonsdale is dead of apparent suicide.
Anyone can confirm?
Profile yields: the post this nick has ever made was regarding Lonsdale, need my note at bottom.
Activity in
Shawn Lonsdale suicide? 24 hours ago
Shawn Lonsdale suicide? 27 hours ago
Shawn Lonsdale suicide? 28 hours ago
Shawn Lonsdale suicide? 38 hours ago
http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=QCj5EhMAAAD72JhRqX7aoaHvM-VckMHrWMj6vob75xS36mXc24h6ww
EDIT: I just called
Headquarters Information Desk
Available 24 hours. For general information about reports, who-to-call, referrals, hours of operation, location of facilities, etc.; not for reporting of incidents requiring police response. Available 24 hours.
they switched me to Dispatch,,, who left me on hold a few minutes
and then switched me to Comm desk...
and that officer said they are releasing no details until they can locate and notify the next of kin, and that he was found on February 16th, there will be no entry in the incident logs until they notify next of kin
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Gore Vidal on meeting L Ron Hubbard
"He exuded evil, malice, and stupidity" _________________ Do you THINK scientology works?
Then read THIS PAGE here on XENU.NET
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Kilia

Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 3567 Location: In front of the pc where else would I be?
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject:
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I'm sorry, I can't say much right now..he was like a son to me.  _________________ ~*There is courage and strength in numbers*~ |
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lermanet_com

Joined: 27 Sep 2002 Posts: 4148 Location: Hop-Skip Away from Scientology TODAY!
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject:
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i couldnt find a "suicide" I found this LINK
021808-00122 SUSPICIOUS EVENT 2800 BLOCK NUTWOOD ST _________________ Do you THINK scientology works?
Then read THIS PAGE here on XENU.NET |
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lermanet_com

Joined: 27 Sep 2002 Posts: 4148 Location: Hop-Skip Away from Scientology TODAY!
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject:
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I called
Headquarters Information Desk
Available 24 hours. For general information about reports, who-to-call, referrals, hours of operation, location of facilities, etc.; not for reporting of incidents requiring police response. Available 24 hours.
they switched me to Dispatch,,, who left me on hold a few minutes
and then switched me to Comm desk...
and that officer said they are releasing no details until they can locate and notify the next of kin, and that he was found on February 16th, there will be no entry in the incident logs until they notify next of kin
Right after this call, I got one of those silent hang up calls.. _________________ Do you THINK scientology works?
Then read THIS PAGE here on XENU.NET
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RandomSpectator

Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 89
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject:
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lermanet_com

Joined: 27 Sep 2002 Posts: 4148 Location: Hop-Skip Away from Scientology TODAY!
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject:
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Shawn Lonsdale is answering questions from a sci lawyer:
Q. Tell me about the four death threats.
A. Well, I perceived them as being death
threats because they were along the lines of, you know,
you're going to get hurt downtown, things of that
nature.
Q. Well, tell me -- people have called and
left messages on your phone or what?
A. No. Actually it was on a cell phone that
number that I had provided.
Q. Tell me what happened.
A. In one instance a person told me that he
was from my cell phone provider, and they needed to
re-update my information and needed me to go ahead and
give it to them. Well, I told the gentleman that,
well, you should already have it so why don't you read
it to me and I'll tell you if there's any changes on
it. And he must have been a high-level member because
there he goes, you know, somebody snapped and it was --
he started cussing me out, and said, you know, you're
going to be six feet under if you continue this stuff.
We know who you are. Then it was a hang-up.
Unfortunately, you know, the cell phone I was so
financially strapped at the time, you know, of course
can't do things like trace phone calls and things like
that. The cell phone I had couldn't even record. That
was one of them. The other one was, of course, you
know, if you continue this downtown, you'll I think
they said be hurt.
Q. This is another phone call?
A. Yes. Another one was vans hit people
downtown every day, I think was the specific message.
You should be careful crossing the street.
Q. What was the fourth one?
A. I don't remember the specific words, but
the gist of it was you don't live very long in this
town doing things like you're doing, something like
that.
Source: http://www.lermanet.com/persecution/ _________________ Do you THINK scientology works?
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julenissen222
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject:
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RIP |
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pharbizorg

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 482 Location: Glorious Nation of the Peoples' Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject:
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Good bye fellow critic, and friend. Its always sad to hear of such unfortunate news, but the show must go on. We must go on in his memory, and know that our efforts are not in vain.
RIP, and God's Speed _________________ "However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results"
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire"
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salino

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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject:
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I hope the contemptible person(s) responsible (directly/indirectly) are found by the police investigation and arrested. Along with the tie in with the 'church' of scientology'. |
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Unlisted

Joined: 30 Jan 2008 Posts: 52 Location: :noitacoL
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject:
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Oh dear
I am so sorry to learn this.
R.I.P |
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I'mglib

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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject:
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| Wow, I'm very sorry to hear this. Shawn was a hero, in my book. He was incredibly brave, and from his manner in the deposition and elsewhere, was just a good person. RIP. |
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whatntha
Joined: 22 May 2005 Posts: 932 Location: anywhere, USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject:
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Rest in peace Shawn. The bravest critic I ever knew to picket alone in Clearwater.
I WILL NEVER BELIEVE THAT SHAWN COMMITTED SUICIDE - NEVER. |
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almondjoy

Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 497
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject:
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I never met Shawn but I'm sitting here about to cry over this news. His enthusiastic picketing and documenting of the CoS and his posts here were very inspiring to me. I also adored his sense of humor. I'm just totally shocked and beyond sad to hear he's gone.
There's no way in hell that I believe he killed himself. The method of death is so suspicious...Quentin Hubbard, anyone? _________________ Acronym for L.Ron Hubbard: Science-Fiction Author That Achieved Notoriety = SATAN |
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SchwimmelPuckel

Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 2242 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject:
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OSA! - If you are enjoing this.. That -IS- evil intentions! - Is that really you? - Or did you learn from someone?
If you don't have any knowledge of OSA being implicit.. Are you sure that is so?
If Shawn did this himself.. What about Hubbard bragging that 'People are dead because they opposed us!' - Do you believe that the scientologists evil intentions may have effected this? - Other deeds and OP's by OSA?
You KNOW that this has got to stop!
I say YOU! - I'm not addressing your bleedin' thetan!
. _________________ Ask not what Scientology can do for you, ask what the F*arck! is going on. |
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Kilia

Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 3567 Location: In front of the pc where else would I be?
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject:
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Shawn and I talked on the phone. For security reasons, I would call first, leave a message and he would call me right back.
Here are the PM's from him that I saved. Never heard from him anymore after Dec. 19, 2006
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From: proflex
To: Kilia
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 6:02 pm
Subject: Card... Quote message
Yes i did....nice and small. You have the spot on my computer top haha
Thank you....i have to definatly meet you one day...after all this is behind me and give you a big hug...deal!
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From: proflex
To: Kilia
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:41 am
Subject: Re: Rent Quote message
i already paid him 100 on this month's so 325.00 and he will let me not have to pay the 600 for this place seeing as i am not out yet...he said i am ok on that till the ending of this month otherwise i will owe 600. I want to pay as much ahead
for the new place and move soo i can get it done with and started with the lower amt....i thought another donor was going to send it but they had some car troubles and now cannot so i am sorta stuck...i have recieved around 350.00 (i do not want this out) some went to partial pmt on the cable/internet bill and the phone...food...gas...a used tire. I do not want you to send anything....you aren't in the position to...OK! You have done more than enough...
Shawn
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From: proflex
To: Kilia
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:17 pm
Subject: Re: Touching base... Quote message
I finally got a job working 3rd shift at a convience store...an old friend whom i previously worked for needed someone. I have only been there 2 days and the first i started feeling ill...i got strep throat i think and am miserable but i think it's getting better, my throat is soo sore. I am not doing any scieno slamming for a while till i get my life back in order. The house soo far is still on hold indefinatly and i will now be able to make the rent regularly again, it seems that the L.L. is not in a big hurry to do anything further. I just have to get ahead and back to normal...please tell everyone i am fine and try to keep the specifics to a min as not to alert the scieno's to my working. It could ruin a good thing....i miss youall and am sad at not being able to get out and film anymore. I have to get some sleep now before my shift starts...
Thank You'
Shawn
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From: proflex
To: Kilia
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:46 am
Subject: Re: Touching base 2
No and it is really bugging me...but it has gotten a little less in the last day. All else is ok so far,all i do is work then come home to sleep and then start all over again. I am soo lost mentally now...i hate this job haha...but i must stay for a while yaknow so...i'll get back to you later i am kinda tired and need a nap now.
Shawn _________________ ~*There is courage and strength in numbers*~ |
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