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SME

Joined: 08 Mar 2007 Posts: 188
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject:
David Miscavige – Beatings and Justice
Subject description: A Request and a Thought
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First, a little background:
As many people who may read this know, David Miscavige runs and controls organized scientology.
Also, as many people know, there have been questionnaires and other investigations into crimes committed within organized scientology, IMHO especially by David Miscavige himself.
For anyone interested, here are two links to postings regarding a questionnaire put out by Factnet into these areas:
http://tinyurl.com/28axzc
http://tinyurl.com/ysf3kh
I very much support this action and encourage anyone with information requested in the questionnaire to supply same if they feel comfortable in doing so.
Obviously I cannot go into details but I can assure you that there are people working on this, including people working on specific areas such as organized scientology’s tax exempt status with the IRS. This includes exploring false information given to the IRS as part of the exemption application and other related matters.
With the above little “orientation” in mind, I wanted to focus on one other specific part of the above which are the physical beatings and other abuses of others by David Miscavige himself.
In the last few months there have been public statements on radio and in writing from witnesses and/or victims of physical attacks on others by David Miscavige. This includes Bruce Hines (victim), Jeff Hawkins (victim and witness) as well as myself, Larry Brennan (witness).
What I am requesting now is for anyone else who is also a witness and/or victim of his abuses who is comfortable with doing so to also now go on the record with regard the abuses.
It is my belief that with just a couple more people on the record about this that we might be able to get concerned governmental bodies actually active in looking into this and, I believe, bringing charges against David Miscavige himself.
While I cannot go into details and I must stress again that much of this is just my opinion I can say that there are people actively looking into this, this includes attorneys and some governmental contacts that have been made about this in the USA and abroad.
I believe that the evidence of David Miscavige’s physical abuse and control of all the main organizations of organized scientology will to a large degree be proven to exist through these testimonials of beatings and control.
To whatever degree there will be success with such things as potential RICO prosecutions, with the revocation of an ill-gotten tax exempt status, with governmental actions to stop some of the most abusive aspects of organized scientology and/or with civil actions to penalize them for such abuses, it can only help if we have more of this information about physical beatings by David Miscavige.
For one thing it pins legal responsibility where it belongs at the very top of the organization and helps ensure that any corrective or punitive actions taken by governments and/or courts will get to the root cause of the problem and not just the underlings taking orders from above.
There is another possibility here, possibly small, but nevertheless a possibility. If criminal charges are actually brought against David Miscavige personally with respect to his beatings and physical abuses of others there will be intense legal pressure brought to bear on the very top and most insidious part of organized scientology. There will be major press all over the place on this matter and IMHO this will prompt other governments and/or governmental departments to also take action on other areas such as child abuse, tax status, perjuries, medical and/or psychological practice without a license, etc.
With the legal and public pressure brought to bear there is a possibility that other elements within organized scientology, along with their attorneys, may just realize that Miscavige is bringing their church down with him. This could cause them to take a stand to oust him from power. I truly believe some can be gotten to understand that their “church” must not be run again by an indicted felon. I do not believe that Miscavige will ever have the backing that Hubbard got from top management when the heat gets truly intense. (Especially given the fact that Miscavige has beaten and/or physically abused many of the top people within organized scientology, some of whom could be part of taking this action).
And, most importantly, this can help create an atmosphere for “new managers” to take action to abolish some of the most abusive aspects of organized scientology before they are forced to do same from the outside.
It’s going to happen sooner or later. I just think that actions to point out and stop the horrid physical abuses by Miscavige to control and run organized scientology can very well be a big part to jump starting this for the well being of all.
This is entirely doable from within legally but IMHO would take enormous pressure as above to really prompt anyone inside to take such action or to get their attorneys to recommend and/or support such action.
Thus, I would like to stress one more time that anyone with first hand information of David Miscavige’s personal physical abuse of others speak out publicly now and post the information.
We can then coordinate getting this information reviewed by competent counsel with a view towards at least filing it with relevant governmental departments with requests for actions to be taken.
It’s just a chance but I truly believe this is a real opportunity to make a huge change in organized scientology in the direction of stopping abuses.
IMHO
Larry Brennan - SME _________________ My blog: http://larrybren.blogspot.com/
”Lay gentle
Magic baby
Everything’s alright
The pain is gone
There’s naught to fear
Let my arms be your world tonight”.
- from the poem "Birth of a Faery" |
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InitialsTC

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 1410
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:30 am Post subject:
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Talking about Jeff Hawkins, for the one who haven't listen to him talking about his experiencies into scientology, here is an interview he gave on a radio show
quicktime
http://www.lermanet.com/audio/jeffhawkins.mp3 |
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BTs2Free

Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 731
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:10 am Post subject:
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Larry,
I have also personally witnessed David Miscavige beatings as well as other forms of torture and abuse. I have written about these incidents which can be found in this forum.
Two of these encounters were with Jeff Hawkins and one other one was with Marc Yager then CO CMO Int. I was also witness to other executives who were involved in beatings under DM's example however, I will concentrate on DM as the main instigator of ALL of the Int Base beatings as he was "obviously" the "winning valence" to be in but belive me, the other beatings will be told about as well.
I am currently working on an affidavit so that media and law enforcement agencies will have access to these documents. This is currently in the works.
There's a particular journalist I'm currently working with and when it's more clear what direction I want to take, I will go there and disseminate this on a broader scale.
Perhaps you and I should chat. Please PM me or I will you, so that we can compare notes and possibly work out a strategy to get more people with this knowlege more active in doing something about it - THERE ARE OTHERS who are not now speaking up about it.
DMs abuses need to stop and frankly, the man needs to be held accountable for his crimes.
Peace,
BTs2Free
John Peeler _________________ Hammering out of existence incorrect technology would include $cientology itself! |
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particlewave
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 66
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:31 am Post subject:
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This is the strongest argument against Scientology. It is the eyewitness testimony that is corroborated time and time again about the abuses by David Mscavige.
I hope and pray that by bringing this to the attention of the proper people that something can be done and justice finally served.
good luck on this and God bless. |
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SME

Joined: 08 Mar 2007 Posts: 188
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject:
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| BTs2Free wrote: | Larry,
I have also personally witnessed David Miscavige beatings as well as other forms of torture and abuse. I have written about these incidents which can be found in this forum.
Two of these encounters were with Jeff Hawkins and one other one was with Marc Yager then CO CMO Int. I was also witness to other executives who were involved in beatings under DM's example however, I will concentrate on DM as the main instigator of ALL of the Int Base beatings as he was "obviously" the "winning valence" to be in but belive me, the other beatings will be told about as well.
I am currently working on an affidavit so that media and law enforcement agencies will have access to these documents. This is currently in the works.
There's a particular journalist I'm currently working with and when it's more clear what direction I want to take, I will go there and disseminate this on a broader scale.
Perhaps you and I should chat. Please PM me or I will you, so that we can compare notes and possibly work out a strategy to get more people with this knowlege more active in doing something about it - THERE ARE OTHERS who are not now speaking up about it.
DMs abuses need to stop and frankly, the man needs to be held accountable for his crimes.
Peace,
BTs2Free
John Peeler |
Hey John! Yes you have certainly taken a stand and are speaking out.
That is awesome and much appreciated!!
I will contact you later today on private channels about this and about others soon to speak out as well IMO.
Talk shortly, and thanks again!!
Larry Brennan - SME _________________ My blog: http://larrybren.blogspot.com/
”Lay gentle
Magic baby
Everything’s alright
The pain is gone
There’s naught to fear
Let my arms be your world tonight”.
- from the poem "Birth of a Faery" |
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SCIE-NO-MO-
Joined: 23 Oct 2005 Posts: 325
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:21 am Post subject:
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| Remember Warren Jeff, the polygamist cult leader. He was put on FBIs 10 most wanted list, pulled over one day for expired car registration and then he was dragged into a court room in shackles and convicted of several felons that'll ensure he'll be spending the rest of his life in jail. One can only dream and hope. May the force be with you, John and Larry. |
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Snow White

Joined: 06 May 2006 Posts: 740 Location: Enchanted Forest
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:38 am Post subject:
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I t would be kinda ironic to have Miscavige's name on the most wanted list. I remember seeing the Wanted signs posted in the orgs for 'squirrels'.
BTW, I think that poster's pic (maybe BTs2Free??) of DM in handcuffs would make a good picket sign! That time is a-coming. Bring it on! |
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vongole

Joined: 27 Sep 2007 Posts: 253 Location: Teegeeak
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject:
Miscavige arrested
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This recent photo was obtained from a Marcabian paparazzo who witnessed the much-hoped for event of David Fecal Miscavige being dragged off under arrest.
The Cult of Scientology denies any knowledge of Miscavige's fall from power. A spokesperson for the cult said: "No one here is available for comment, but COB would never be so stupid as to get caught. Duh!"
David "Fecal" Miscavige arrested _________________ "Dad had an insatiable desire for an awful lot of money... All the money went to Dad." L. Ron Hubbard jr.
Tommy exposed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zIihiJIDvg |
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