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J. Swift
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 Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:07 am Post subject:
Middle Class? Then L. Ron Hubbard & Scientology Hate You!
Subject description: "...the puritan hypocritical mores of the cop and the get-a-job-be-a-moderate-plugging-success..."
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The world has seen Tom Cruise declaring that Scientologists are the "authorities on the mind" who need to "Go to Guns" against Psychiatry. Now we get to see how much L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology personally hate you for being Middle Class. Sea Horse posted proof positive of Scientology's bigotry towards regular, everyday people on another thread. So that this Scientology bigotry, this Scientology class warfare, does not get lost in the shuffle, I am giving it a new thread:
| Quote: | HCO BULLETIN OF 16 APRIL 1982
MORE ON PTS HANDLING
PTS is a connection to an SP. That is true. But what may be overlooked is that persons of the middle class (which is a culture, not an income bracket, to which belong all the puritan hypocritical mores of the cop and the get-a-job-be-a-moderate-plugging-success) frown very terribly on anything that the least bit tries to make a better world. The middle class wants the world of a job and order and even hypocrisy and cops because they are AFRAID. They hold their narrow views because any other views may disturb their twenty-year house mortgage, the store, the job. So when someone decides to make a better world, they look on him as a direct menace even though the dull middle-class world is a sort of slavery and suicide. It is the middle class that tries the hardest to keep the down-and-outer out and down, who go along with a cop America and hate support of anything not their class. And nearly every PTS you have will be found one way or another to be PTS to the middle class. As a group, not as individuals, the middle-class-parent world suppresses anything different. So you have PTSes.
The bulk of your PTSes may very well be PTS to a class, the middle class of which their particular SP is simply a member. Few of them realize this or even that the middle class (bourgeoisie) ARE very suppressive to anyone who tries to do something in the world besides support the system. My attitude in this is that both the capitalist and communist are alike old hat and a bore, that they’ve made a ruddy mess of things, exhausted the planet and, with their senseless wars, smashed up mankind.
I have sometimes heard that less PTSes are found than are found people with the question “Do you have problems in your environment?” reading on a meter.
I began to wonder about it. Then I heard of PTSes being simply transferred or demoted. Now listen, these people are PTS and there must be a total grasp on that tech. It IS a tech.
It is definitely out-tech to either (1) transfer someone who is PTS to another area yet still keep the person on one’s lines or (2) to put someone who is PTS on a lower post, AS A MEANS OF HANDLING, as it is not handling at all.
The person has to handle. If he does so, he will begin to get well and cease to have problems. The reasons he cannot handle are because he tries to do it in the heroic fashion that is required in a disconnect. Handling can be very, very gradient. I have seen a case where the person was simply coached to give his parents good roads and good weather and not take up any entheta and have seen the person pull right out of it and get well. It doesn’t have to be an explosive handling. It can be very gentle. All you want is the person at cause and that is attained on a gradient toward the SP.
The whole crux of PTSes is HANDLE. And the misunderstood on it is how gently one can handle.
Many of them are caught up in the mystery of why they are snarled at and have no conception of the middle class as a formidable and jealous force that goes psychotic when it feels anyone may get away from the treadmill and threaten their uneasy and doomed lives.
One tries to find what it is and then persuades them into handling. That’s the tech.
EVERY ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE CAN BE STRAIGHTENED OUT. EVERY ONE OF THEM SHOULD BE.
Every one who reads on “problems in your environment” is to some degree PTS. Most of them don’t even know what the letters PTS stand for. So there is an educational step, the PTS/SP checksheet. It does not mean they have been connected to ogres. It means they are suppressed by someone or something, OFTEN FAR EXTERIOR TO THEIR PRESENT POSITION OR AREA. So there is an educational step. The tech is in HCO PLs and HCOBs. It is perhaps given more directly herein, as it applies to that exact scene.
So go to it. Really get a grip on it. And handle the hell out of them yourselves.
L. RON HUBBARD |
ref: http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=29316&postorder=asc&start=15
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Guero
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Typical cult thinking. The rest of society is misguided/evil/ignorant/dangerous/inferior and only WE have the answers!
Yeesh.
Great find Swift. |
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J. Swift
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Guero, thank Sea Horse for finding this highly offensive class-warfare screed written by that drug using bastard named L. Ron Hubbard. Hubbard was a petit bourgeois fuck -- and a horrible pulp writer -- who conned people out of money using "the religion angle." Hubbard conned people and then donned an ascot as an affection of his ill-gotten wealth. Next, he took his con to a higher level by declaring himself to be God when he wrote KSW. LRH makes the case that mental illness, if left untreated, can wreak havoc on society. Of course, Hubbard self-medicated with booze and drugs, but that is another thread.
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L. Ron Hubbard said of the Middle Class:
| Quote: | | They hold their narrow views because any other views may disturb their twenty-year house mortgage, the store, the job. |
What strikes me here is how LRH and Scientology so completely miss the point of life altogether. Social stability is important on so many levels, particularly in terms of raising children. If most middle class people struggle, they do so honestly and in hopes of giving their children a good upbringing. Most middle class people aren't looking to run a giant con game like Scientology is. Middle class values get in the way of Scientology strip-mining the wealth of the middle class. That is why Scientology immediately acts to destroy any sense of middle class values when they get a new victim on the hook. The Cult wants to separate that person from their money as fast as possible. Statistically, the Cult has a good six month to two year shot at a new member. That is why they strip mine wealth and hope that the victim does not wake up until they are broke and no longer even middle class.
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Scientology misses the point of Life being a gift and of Family and Home being the best gift. Middle class families want stability, safety, and social order. Being realists, however, middle class people recognize the struggles of life and existentially wrestle with their struggles. The Struggles of Life can build character, strength, and some modicum of prosperity. Life can be a Crucible. Middle class people have to tough it out because we don't have easy Cult wealth, nor do we have the delusion that something like Scientology can make our lives easier. The middle class focuses on its children and making a living according to one's own means. Middle class people do not have bizarre fantasies that they can become OT's by paying $360,000 to get the Secret Scientology Treasure Map that offers an, "exact path out of the trap." Better you should go do the laundry and run errands.
Conversely, Scientology is infamous for too many of its parents neglecting, or even abandoning, their children in order to do Scientology or to serve on Staff or Sea Org. LRH called children adults in little bodies. Scientology refuses to allow children to be children. Scientology also thinks less of its adults members who would purchase a home or a new car instead of spending the money on Scientology. Here is how Scientology's God L. Ron Hubbard instructed Scientologists to think about money, homes, cars, and even a pension:
| Quote: | | "Advanced Courses [in Scientology) are the most valuable service on the planet. Life insurance, houses, cars, stocks, bonds, college savings, all are transitory and impermanent ... There is nothing to compare with Advanced Courses. They are infinitely valuable and transcend time itself." -L. Ron Hubbard speaking of his "Operating Thetan Courses" Flag Mission Order 375. |
Middle Class people don't have time for this Scientology implant shit. We have work, or PTA meetings, or want to watch our kids play. Scientologists should go peddle their "Psych Implant" babble somewhere else. Maybe the Scilons should set up an array of antennas out there on Trementina Base and beam radio waves to the next guh-laxy over.
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Hubbard and Scientology have to invalidate Middle Class life because they want the money that middle class people would otherwise spend on a stable home life, a house, family vacations, medical care, etc. In Scientology, one is either wealthy or in heavy debt and struggling financially. The recent Sea Org recruiting poster offered the solution for Scientologists who can't cut it in the middle class:
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Wieber
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When I was on staff the ONE thing that was uppermost as priority in any week was Gee-Aye - Gross Income - money! money! money!
When scientology gets a new person on course, the executive director, the course supervisor, the director of technical services, the division two and division six registrars among others will do everything they can to sniff out what that person has in their bank accounts, savings, investments, insurance and what kind of material assets they have that can be converted to cash.
With the help of the trance states and induced suggestibility that person will be cleaned out and on staff very quickly - usually within weeks or months.
There was an old saw that went, "You can't get blood from a stone." scientology can.
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When I was on staff, the reg found (via the case supervisor) that a semi-literate person on the Purification Rundown had a saving account of 5000 dollars - that was all the money he had, and he was unemployed and lived with his parents. So they tried to sell him some courses and books and they even wanted to sell him all the red volumes (technical volumes).
He agreed to purchase all of the above but luckily his father had power of attorney over his money( because he was mentally incompetent/one screw short). The father came to the org and after discussing the matter with the C/S and the Reg, he vetoed the whole idea.
They pretended to care about the person, but all they wanted was his money.
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pelagic
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| Yep, I have used that in recruitment and regging myself. When you believe you have lived many lives, and will soon recover those memories, all this stuff like houses and cars seems less important. |
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Judith Anderson
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We are now suffering the consequences of a weakened middle class which has a global impact. Scientology can't continue to freeload on the economy without a strong, solvent, gainfully employed, tax-paying middle class. The cult's free ride will come to an end sooner than they think.
I'm no economist, but that's my spin on it. |
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RealityWillTell
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Just another example (along with a mountain of others) of why this evil cult named scientology must be made into nothing more than a ridiculed footnote in the annals of history!
Funny how SM hasn't commented in this thread! Just goes to show that he/she/it can't spin this one away. 
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caroline
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject:
Re: Middle Class? Then L. Ron Hubbard & Scientology Hate You!
Subject description: "...the puritan hypocritical mores of the cop and the get-a-job-be-a-moderate-plugging-success..."
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Good topic, J. Swift. Thanks for posting.
| From HCOB 16 April 1982 More on PTS Handling by L. Ron Hubbard who wrote: | The bulk of your PTSes may very well be PTS to a class, the middle class of which their particular SP is simply a member. Few of them realize this or even that the middle class (bourgeoisie) ARE very suppressive to anyone who tries to do something in the world besides support the system. My attitude in this is that both the capitalist and communist are alike old hat and a bore, that they’ve made a ruddy mess of things, exhausted the planet and, with their senseless wars, smashed up mankind.
I have sometimes heard that less PTSes are found than are found people with the question “Do you have problems in your environment?” reading on a meter. |
Scientologists of course disseminate to individuals with problems like mad. (Ref. HCOPL 23 November 1969 Individuals vs Groups: "Disseminate to those who have problems not those who have solutions.") Dissemination involves getting people to talk about their major problems or "ruins" and selling Scientology as the solution.
Kirstie Alley was recently interviewed about PTS to the middle class and about her recent extreme thetan makeover. She says her "irritation toward mankind" was converted to "genuine affinity," along with a whole new level of "responsibility" for mankind. Posted in the public interest.
| From Source 193 (c) 2007 CSFSO quoting Kirstie Alley who wrote: |
FLAG EXPERIENCE
"I want everybody in the universe to experience this.
Ms. Kirstie Alley, Solo NOTs auditor, Diamond Meritorious of the IAS and Founding Member of the Super Power Expansion Project, was here at Flag for the OT Summit and wanted to share her Flag experience with the readers of Source magazine.
Spending the last few weeks here at Flag has been a completely life-changing experience to say the least! I came here to do my six-month Refresher on Solo NOTs, and I stayed for the OT Summit.
"I've had some amazing auditing while I've been here.
"Add to that being here for the OT Summit—that changed me as a being, 180 degrees. When I saw the scope of Flag and what the future of Flag meant and the huge numbers of people who will come through these doors and get their own auditing, or their own training to train others or to audit others, I could see this huge theta machine.
"In what I've done in Scientology so far, I thought I'd already achieved my wildest dreams. Add to that when I saw the OT Summit, this took it up about a billion notches of what my wildest dreams would entail. This opened the floodgates for me of creativity. It opened up the magnitude of dreams and made them real for me.
"So this experience at Flag changed me totally. I can't say enough about it, because I literally walked in the door of Flag four weeks ago as one person, and I'm walking out an entirely different being, and I mean ENTIRELY different.
My viewpoint on the fourth dynamic and mankind and other people changed. You know, I liked animals more than people! OK, I liked certain people, but the idea of 'mankind'—it really irritated me!
"But since being here in the AO and receiving some incredible auditing, combined with seeing the OT Summit, I started taking more and more responsibility for mankind. Then I realized why mankind upset me so much —it's because I wasn't taking responsibility!
"Now, I have genuine affinity for mankind and I'm up to taking genuine responsibility for mankind. And when I saw the plans for this Mecca and what it's going to be— it's the true definition of a Mecca. It's going to be something spectacular.
"I've made decisions here, big, crazy, great, brilliant decisions here about the magnitude I'm going to help this group and help this planet, and it's real. And I attribute that to the OT Summit, I attribute it to the auditing I've been doing here at Flag, and it's brilliant. I want everybody in the universe to experience this.
Here's the way I honestly look at it, and I include myself in this: The days of us saying 'They will handle it' are over.
We ARE they!
"It's Keeping Scientology Working: We are here on the same terms. What does that mean? Do or die. I believe that when people are really dedicated to something, they walk the walk. And it's not good enough any more to decide you can't contribute as much as others; you're doing the best you can... A, you're not doing the best you can, and B, you're not doing the best you can—and C, you're not doing the best you can!
"We are NOT PTS to the middle class. We are NOT. The most important things in life are not your car or your airplane—and I think that if you see these OT Summit events and this doesn't prove to you what your responsibility level is, then you're an ostrich and your head is buried in the sand.
"So pop the head out and look around and see what you need to do. Contributions come in many forms. Someone said this to me about five years ago and at the time I thought they were crazy—they said that you should be spending ALL your time helping mankind. Once I wasn't PTS to the middle class any more, I realized, 'Wow, that's the game! That really is true,' So I urge everyone to live up to your full potential and really, really, really stretch and help." |
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Judith Anderson
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| Actually, the word "mankind" is as outdated as telex. It's humankind. |
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RealityWillTell
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Caroline, that ad of Kirstie's is actually funny! When I saw the statement of her "genuine affinity" for mankind I could only think of this typical picture of hers:
as usual giving the finger.
And when I saw the line in that ad " I literally walked into the door
of Flag four weeks ago as one person," I expected it to end with "
and I'm walking out now as three more weight wise! Thank you scientology!"
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Benny's Friend
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Here's a recent ad reflecting a different kind of extreme thetan makeover:
Those must be some berries. |
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RealityWillTell
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| Benny's Friend wrote: | Here's a recent ad reflecting a different kind of extreme thetan makeover:
Those must be some berries. |
That is funny since the picture I put up is from September and both those pictures in that ad are from years past!
Once again Kirstie and her scieno friends have no problem telling "acceptable truths" (flat out lies) if it'll make them more money in order to get back on the cans (well in Kirstie's case it means crates of twinkies and the cans).
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Wieber
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OK. So now this is a thread about Kirstie Alley. So, until it gets back on track, let's take another look at this picture.
Check Kirstie's body language and her facial expression.
Sorry, but in this case the "mass" does not match the "significance."
If Kirstie were not a celebrity and not such a frequent denizen of the pages of the middle class tabloids, she would be major "ethics bait." If she isn't in a continuous state of "a condition of doubt" I'll wager she "roller coasters" through it.
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Sea Horse
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I saw Kirstie a month or two ago (up CLOSE... like 3 feet away from me, several times -- we both live in Clearwater, after all) and both those "skinny pix" are very old. She looks more like in the fat photo. And there's no way 25 pounds would make that much difference. That is about a 50# or more weight differential in the berries ad.
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