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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: ORDINANCE NO. 884 Regulating Targeted Residential Picketing
Subject description: Information regarding the Riverside County ordinance now before Supervisors
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Ordinance No. 884 was first introduced to the Riverside Board of Supervisors on November 25, 2008.

The initial discussion among the Supervisors is a fascinating piece of history.

Here we have Supervisor Jeff Stone who has been persuaded to passionately front the ordinance after viewing a “pamphlet” from a “white superiority group” he believes were holding “potentially violent demonstrations that were inappropriate.”

Supervisor Bob Buster doggedly defends the Constitution of the United States, debating Stone, County Counsel Joe S. Rank, and Scientology's lawyer, Samuel Alhadeff. The debate between Buster and Alhadeff is an absolute must see for anyone who doesn't believe Scientology's goal is to stop picketing by subverting the Constitution.

Buster is a true representative of the people and knows exactly what's at stake with the ordinance. Before entering his "no" vote on the record, he says to Stone, "I know what you're trying to do. I know what you're trying to do."

http://209.128.123.171/ppportal/agenda/webcast.aspx

From the Agenda, choose the *second* entry of 11/25/2008 on the list. Note that this site is Internet Explorer only; i.e., Firefox does not stream the video. The topic of the ordinance starts at 40:31 (40 minutes in). The debate between Buster and Alhadeff begins at approximately 1:00:00 (one hour in).

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This is the ordinance as it was originally introduced:

ORDINANCE NO. 884, an Ordinance of the County of Riverside Regulating Targeted Residential Picketing

SUBMITTAL TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE, STATE OF CALIFORNIA

FROM: Supervisor Jeff Stone

SUBJECT: Ordinance No. 884 Regulating Targeted Residential Picketing

SUBMITTAL DATE: November 16, 2008

RECOMMENDED MOTION: That the Board of Supervisors:
Introduce and on the following week adopt Riverside County Ordinance No. 884 regulating targeted residential picketing.

BACKGROUND:
Picketing activity that is targeted at a particular residence disturbs the peace, tranquility, well being, sense of security and privacy in the home. Such activity can harass, intimidate and cause emotional distress to the occupants. It also creates a "captive audience" situation because the occupants cannot readily move to another residence in order to avoid the unwelcome picketing activity.

Both the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and the United States Supreme Court have affirmed that ordinances prohibiting such targeted picketing of a residence are reasonable time, place and manner restrictions which do not unconstitutionally violate the First Amendment. (See Klein v. San Diego County (9th Cir. 2006) 463 F.3d 1029 and Frisby v. Schultz (1988) 487 U.S. 474.) Several cities and counties currently have ordinances in place regulating such activity. There is no State law that adequately protects the right to privacy in the home against such targeted picketing activity. The proposed ordinance is necessary to reconcile and protect the rights of picketers to peacefully communicate and express their ideas and opinions and the rights of persons to enjoy the right to privacy in their homes.

The Board of Supervisors of the County of Riverside ordains as follows:

Section 1. FINDINGS. The Board of Supervisors of the County of Riverside finds that:

a. The preservation and protection of the right to privacy in the home and the enjoyment of tranquility, well-being and sense of security in the home are in the public interest and are uniquely and critically important to the public health, safety and welfare.

b. Picketing activity that is targeted at a particular residence or household whose occupants do not welcome such activity may harass and intimidate such occupants, is inherently and unreasonably offensive to and intrusive upon the right to privacy in the home and may cause the occupants of such home to experience great emotional distress.

c. Such unwelcome and targeted picketing activity creates a "captive audience" situation because the occupants of a residence or household cannot readily move to another residence or household in order to avoid the unwelcome picketing activity being directed at them.

d. This "captive audience" situation and the protection of the right to privacy in the home requires the enactment of a reasonable time, place and manner restriction upon such unwelcome picketing activity that is targeted at a particular residence or household.

Section 2. PURPOSE. The purpose of this ordinance is to reasonably regulate the time, place and manner of picketing activity targeted at a particular residential dwelling. This ordinance prohibits picketing focused on and taking place in front of a particular residence. It is not intended to preclude the right to picket in a residential area generally and in such a manner that does not target or focus upon a particular residential dwelling. The limited purpose of the prohibition is to preclude intrusion upon the constitutionally protected privacy rights of the targeted resident.

Section 3. DEFINITIONS.

a. Picketing. The posting of a person or group for a demonstration or protest.

b. Targeted Picketing. Picketing activity that is targeted at a particular residential dwelling and proceeds on a definite course or route in front of or around that particular residential dwelling.

c. Residential Dwelling. Any permanent building being used by its occupants solely for non-transient residential uses.

d. This ordinance does not and shall not be interpreted to preclude picketing in a residential area that is not targeted at a particular residential dwelling.
Section 4. PROHIBITION. No person shall engage in picketing activity that is targeted at and is within three hundred (300) feet of a residential dwelling in the unincorporated areas of the County of Riverside.

Section 5. PENALTIES. Any person violating this ordinance shall be deemed guilty of an infraction or misdemeanor as hereinafter specified. Such person shall be deemed guilty of a separate offense for each and every day or portion thereof during which any violation of any provision of this ordinance is committed or continued.

Any person so convicted shall be (1) guilty of an infraction offense and punished by a fine not exceeding one hundred dollars ($100) for a first violation; (2) guilty of an infraction offense and punished by a fine not exceeding two hundred dollars ($200) for a second violation. The third and any additional violations shall constitute a misdemeanor offense and shall be punishable by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000) or six months in jail, or both. Notwithstanding the above, a first offense may be charged and prosecuted as a misdemeanor.

Section 6. SEVERABILITY. If any provision of this ordinance or the application thereof to any person, entity, etc. is found to be invalid this shall not affect the provisions of the ordinance that can be given effect.

its adoption.

Section 7. EFFECTIVE DATE. This ordinance shall take effect thirty (30) days after BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE COUNTY
OF RIVERSIDE, STATE OF CALIFORNIA

By:
Chairman, Board of Supervisors
ATTEST:
CLERK OF THE BOARD
By:
Deputy
(SEAL)
APPROVED AS TO FORM
November/7 , 2008
PAMELA J. WALLS
Assistant County Counsel

edit: link to meeting video corrected


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re: Klein v. San Diego County (9th Cir. 2006) 463 F.3d 1029 and Frisby v. Schultz (1988) 487 U.S. 474

United States Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit information found here:

http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F3/463/463.F3d.1029.04-55819.html
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As of yet, Ordinance 884 does not appear on tomorrow's Board of Supervisors meeting agenda, however it is being monitored carefully.

If any OCMB poster would like to have a message read to the Supervisors when the ordinance does come back for final vote, please post your message to this thread.

Thank you.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good report, BF.
The other monkey wrench is that the supervisors took part in the protests in front of a sex offender's house a couple years ago, and they want to be able to define the law so that it would still be possible to stage this type of protest, but not protest Scientology. This doesn't seem possible to me.

Here's a little info about David Allyn Dokich, the sex offender. He eventually was sent back to prison, where he died either from a beating or cancer.

http://www.pe.com/localnews/publicsafety/stories/PE_News_Local_D_dokich28.312621d.html

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His placement in a Mead Valley halfway house in 2005 after being released from prison ignited a debate and prompted almost nine months of demonstrations outside the home. The outcry led to three state laws that provide for increased oversight of registered sex offenders.

Dokich was convicted in 1987 of raping a Lake Elsinore girl. He had previously served two years as part of a plea agreement in connection with the 1982 rape of a girl in Orange County.

Dokich served 21 months in prison in the Orange County case before being paroled. Three years later, Dokich was arrested in the Lake Elsinore case. He was paroled to the Mead Valley group home after serving half of that 35-year sentence.

The protests outside that home ended when Riverside County sheriff's deputies arrested Dokich for violating his parole after he was caught on video hanging out at a pool hall and arcade. Being there violated his parole because the business sells alcohol and children gather there.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to clarify, the OP is regarding the first meeting (11/25/08 ) of the Board of Supervisors discussing the ordinance.

AnonOrange and Glibby spoke at the second meeting (12/09/08 ), which was supposed to be when the final vote would be taken.

Bob Buster speaks boldly against the ordinance in both meetings, but his exchanges with Supervisor Jeff Stone and Scientology attorney Samuel Alhadeff are particularly poignant in the first (11/25/08 ) meeting.

I hope many of you take the time to watch this. It truly is relevant to all of us.

(Plus, it's just darn heartening to see a decent politician in action. Referring to Buster here, of course.)

http://209.128.123.171/ppportal/agenda/webcast.aspx [starting at 40:31]
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like Supervisor Jeff Stone will be taking another stab at getting his special interest Ordinance No. 884 passed at the January 6, 2009 meeting of the Riverside Board of Supervisors:

INTRODUCTION OF ORDINANCE NO. 884, an Ordinance of the County of Riverside Regulating Targeted Residential Picketing.

http://www.clerkoftheboard.co.riverside.ca.us/agendas/2009/01_06_2009.htm

He's also looking to pass Ordinance No. 888 which appears to be related:

ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NO. 888, an Urgency Ordinance of the County of Riverside Regulating Targeted Residential Picketing. (4/5 vote required)

I find no information regarding No. 888 and interesting to me, the list of County Ordinances posted on their official website cuts off at Ordinance No. 883:

http://www.clerkoftheboard.co.riverside.ca.us/ords.htm

It would be good to attend this meeting in great numbers to make sure the Supervisors are equipped with solid information as they contemplate this dangerous piece of legislation.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Original language:



http://www.clerkoftheboard.co.riverside.ca.us/agendas/2008/11_25_08/03.02.pdf

New language:



http://www.clerkoftheboard.co.riverside.ca.us/agendas/2009/01_06_09/03.28.pdf

Muldrake from WWP makes a good point:

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I note that they claim to be reducing the zone of picket prohibition. Considering that this ordinance is intended to aid the cult, that's just not true. I haven't taken a look at a map and measured out the area, but I'm pretty sure that if you take 300 feet from the "residences," i.e. dorms and the dwarf's mansion, as in the original ordinance, that this might not even extend to the highway. However, if you take 50 feet from the PROPERTY LINE, as the cult lawyers have done, or okay, let's pretend Jeff Stone came up with this on his own, you have a vast area in which picketing is prohibited.

This is basically a con job. It's been made, IMO (and I haven't done the math on this), even more hostile to picketers at Gold. While it would be more reasonable in the typical anti-residential picketing scenarios, i.e. real homes on normal lots, if you apply this same language to Gold, you end up with any protesters IMO forced to the other side of the highway and, perhaps, even into unwalkable areas.

Someone with a good grasp of cartography should figure out what's prohibited under the old language as compared to the new language.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

$^U&*(@@@XXX!!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new Ordinance is intended to answer the objection that the old one would merely move a picket into someone else's front yard.

However, it still contains the same restrictions and does not apply to your pickets. It says so explicitly, clearly and specifically. IT DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU.

In your place I would

(a) Point out that you have never and do not intend to picket any 'Residential Dwelling'. You are picketing Golden Era Productions, a division of the Church of Scientology that produces training and promotional films for Scientology. It is a place of Employment.

(b) However in a spirit of cooperation you will abide by the intent of the Ordinance and picket on the opposite side of the road from the Main Gate. You will do so on the understanding that the Board will inform the police that this is an AGREED location for picketing.
This is not unreasonable, it is what sensible police insist upon at pickets where emotions run high.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, but is there any "sidewalk space" on the opposite side of the road to Gold Base?

I couldn't imagine there are sidewalks out there in that part of the county.

Also, don't the scios own both sides of the street there?
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I believe the area is zoned "residential." I don't think they would make that kind of mistake in drafting this thing. They have lawyers combing through it.

Also, yes, they own both sides of the street (for a distance of about a mile), and there are no sidewalks.

This sucks, basically.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ordinances and laws are VERY LITERAL. If there is no sidewalk, the sidewalk portion will be moot. Get them to change the wording. They could just as easily said "across the street"... but they didn't. That's not by mistake, I assure you.

In a residential subdivision, it would be obvious where 50 ft from the property line would be. I can imagine that the outer boundaries of Gold Base (the property line) are not that obvious.

Badly written ordinance... and unneeded.

Tell them that you'll protest in town and protest each meeting if they don't ditch this unconstitutional ordinance (hinderance of free speech). So if the scios don't like the protesting in their face, they'll get it in their "neighborhood" instead, where even MORE people will see it and be annoyed.

Corporate Scientology is probably putting enormous pressure on these guys to get an ordinance passed. You have to quit being "Mr. Nice Guy" and put enough pressure on them to get what YOU want.

If you think that laws are made "because it's right and fair" and that governments work "for their constituents", you are deluding yourself. Power and money and "squeaky wheels" get far more work done than playing it safe, being nice, or playing by the rules. You just don't know the OTHER rules.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'mglib wrote:
They have lawyers combing through it.

There are caveats they could have cut out, in particular Definition 3g. That is there in anticipation of someone doing what the cult lawyers would like to do, say "people live here so go away". If that gets removed and the language becomes less clear and open to interpretation, then you can start worrying. As I recall however Counsel to the Board was warning them they were skating on thin ice already and anything that looked like setting a legal precedent might attract the attention of Free Speech advocates. It's a narrowly focused restriction with clearly defined boundaries.

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Also, yes, they own both sides of the street (for a distance of about a mile), and there are no sidewalks.

Are we reading the same document here? Confused
'Sidewalk space' is defined in it. If the lot boundary goes right up to the tarmac of the road then that would be a problem, check the map. I'd be surprised if it it did as a gap is normally left for people to walk on. Knowing the sensitivity of the cult to people standing on their land, if they thought there was no walking space they'd have told picketers to go away on that basis from the start.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just don't think it's practical to try to tear this apart using legalese if it passes. The bottom line is, THEY think it's been drafted to stop protesters SPECIFICALLY at Gold. If by some slip up they didn't write it correctly, and there's some loophole, that won't help protesters at all. What would happen is the protesters would show up, and immediately be arrested. Then they would have to go to court and somehow prove, by whatever technicality, that they didn't break the law.

I personally wouldn't do that. I doubt anyone would. Who has the resources to fight that?

Better that we focus on trying to stop it from being passed at all.
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