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I'mglib
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 Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:14 am Post subject:
Ordinance 884 passed...PROTESTERS ARRESTED!
Subject description: Mark Bunker and Mark Lowell
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Ok, so Twin A, Graham, Mark Bunker, AGP and AO all spoke at the meeting, but the ordinance passed anyway because the supervisors are CORRUPT. More on that later.
After the meeting BF and I went home, but the others went to protest at Gold, which according to the county lawyer Pamela Walls was still supposed to be legal. But somehow Mark and Mark got arrested. Details are sketchy to say the least. I got this info from AO who got it from AGP. Hopefully someone who was there will chime in soon.
Twin A was fantastic at the meeting, by the way.
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I'mglib
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:18 am Post subject:
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Happy Smurf just posted this on WWP:
| Quote: | I just got off the phone with AGP who was talking with me while driving Mark Bunker's stick-shift to the Hemet Sheriff's Office.
AGP said that Catherine Fraser & Tommy Davis complained that Mark Bunker & Mark Howell was protesting in front of the guard gate & blocking it. A Riverside deputy arrived and went inside the gate to confer with Fraser & Davis.
He came out and ordered them to cross the street and picket on the other side of the road.
According to AGP, the deputy or deputies did not believe the two were walking fast enough across the road, so both were immediately arrested. AGP said he saw Catherine Fraser point to Mark Howell and said, "arrest him."
AGP said he was threatened with arrest as well for standing on a curb. Graham Berry, AO & AGP are now at the Hemet Station. |
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I'mglib
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:50 am Post subject:
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More from Smurf:
| Quote: | UPDATE:
Graham, AO, AGP at Hemet Station. Deputies there said they're going to cite the two Marks and issue them a"summons to appear" in court at a later date, but will not be jailed.
AGP said they were arrested for "blocking the ingress and egress" to the base (driveway by guard shack).
He said it was definitely Tommy Davis, in a suit, speaking to the 2 deputies.
AGP said he was filming in the lobby of the Hemet Station and a deputy asked him to turn his videocam off. AGP said "No". The deputy then asked Graham Berry to request AGP to stop filming, and Graham responded, "I can ask him, but I doubt he'll listen to me." The deputy then departed the lobby.
Hopefully, the two Marks will be out of custody soon. I'll report what I hear. Y'all can stop calling me. |
Note, Tommy Davis was at the meeting in Riverside earlier in the day.
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I'mglib
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:02 am Post subject:
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THEY'RE OUT!!!
Apparently it was a citizens arrest by Catherine Fraser for trespassing. AGP has some good shots of Catherine Fraser and Tommy Davis talking to the cops inside the compound. There is speculation that the cops were alerted before the protesters even got there, because they only took <5 minutes to get there.
Graham says there is a good case against the Scilons.
Again, this is 3rd hand, but I'm trying to be careful.
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I'mglib
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:43 am Post subject:
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I'm looking forward to Mark Bunker's video, which I am hoping he will make when he gets home. 
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:45 am Post subject:
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I'mglib
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:52 am Post subject:
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Hopefully Twin A will have more to add. She was brilliant at the meeting. They pulled the rug out from under us by saying that no one could talk about Scientology, just the ordinance. But she did a great job, even though the lying liars lied about everything.
She pointed out that she was at Gold Base and was never bothered or harrassed by the protesters.
Unfortunately the supervisors had already decided beforehand how they would vote.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:29 am Post subject:
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From inside the meeting: AGP (partially in photo), I'mGlib, Graham Berry, Maureen Bolstad, Doug Owens
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I'mglib
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:42 am Post subject:
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From Glosslip (Dawn Olson):
| Quote: | Glosslip was able to contact Mark Bunker shortly after he was arrested and processed for trespassing. Mark gave us the exclusive details on what led to the arrest of he and fellow protestor Mark Lowell.
Mark said when they arrived at Gold after the meeting, Riverside County sheriff’s deputies were already there waiting for protesters. Despite Scientology and Riverside County officials attempting to stop all protests at Gold, they were informed that they were still permitted to protest. Mark looked across the street he saw Lowell being arrested by deputies for trespassing and Bunker went over to see what the problem was. As he explained to me, protesters were previously permitted to walk in front of the entrance to Gold as long as they kept moving and didn’t block the entrance to the compound.
While Mark was getting clarification from the Riverside deputies, he spotted Celebrity Center spokesperson and ubiquitious mouthpiece for the Church of Scientology Tommy Davis. As Mark was attempting to get a pictures of Davis, he walked across the entrance way and it was then that he was also placed under arrest. It wasn’t until Mark was released that he discovered he was arrested as part of a “citizen’s arrest” initiated by the same Cathy who attempted to discredit Bunker at the Riverside meeting. Cathy was cutoff by Riverside reps who stated the meeting was not to used for “personal attacks.”
Mark was made aware of the trespassing citation and will have to return to a Riverside Court in April to answer the charges. He stated that he and Mark Howell are doing fine and will not be deterred from their efforts to push for Riverside officials to allow legal and peaceful protest to continue at Hemet. Mark will be posting pictures from the protest and his personal account of the incident on his site as soon as he can update.
When I asked Mark what he took away from this incident he was firm:
“Ultimately, the Church of Scientology wants to stop protests at Gold and are putting tremendous pressure on Riverside officials to halt these protests. Church officials attempting to paint Anonymous as a dangerous organization with the help of Riverside County Board of Supervisors Chairman Jeff Stone, who spoke 20 minutes worth on nonsense about Anonymous being a hate group. While they (Riverside) tried to halt the protests, the protests continue despite of their efforts.
Scientology has yet to realize that their attempts to stop people from finding out the truth about the dangers and abuses of Scientology will only serve to create more interest, and ultimately more critics. We will keep protesting.”
If we get any additional information about this story, we will update this post. Or go to www.Xenutv.com or www.whyweprotest.net. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:17 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Riverside County, Feb. 24, 2009, Supervisors debate Ordinance 884
At the Feb. 24, 2009 meeting of the Riverside County Board of Supervisors, Ordinance 884 "regulating targeted residential protests" was debated and adopted by a 4-1 vote. Supervisors Stone, Tavaglione, Wilson, and Ashley voted in favor, Supervisor Buster dissented. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZbDy9JXtr0 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFLDnCGMTlk - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1AH4NMGEWs - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-bQPnVrTuY - Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGg_5L2N_BA - Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kPJnSdkBQg - Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3geulsxPwrs - Part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=478EB3lH84U - Part 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2O4orYa0YY - Part 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s79VsU1NasM - Part 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIFShKkwRYw - Part 11
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I'mglib
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:06 am Post subject:
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Thanks, SE.
THIS is the one to watch. This woman takes Stone apart. She is a resident, and has nothing to do with the protesters. I WISH she was one of us because COS would be gone by now if she were on our side. We need to recruit her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1AH4NMGEWs
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I'mglib
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:49 am Post subject:
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Graham weighs in:
| Quote: | Part One:
The Riverside County Board of Supervisor’s meeting was a farce. Clearly the fix was in. There was no need for Rick Moxon, Elliot Abelson or any of the senior Scientology executives to be present. Only Catherine Fraser, Muriel Dufresne, Tommy Davis and Scientology’s local zoning attorney were there.
Amazingly, both Supervisor Stone and Scientology’s attorney revised and changed the history of the ordinance; who requested it and who drafted it, and what the drafting process was. A comparison of the various meeting tapes will make that clear. In early meetings their story was that Scientology had requested Ordinance Number 884 and that Scientology’s attorney (who also represents Supervisor Stone) had worked on it with the County Attorney. In addition, the ordinance was justified by the arrest of Anon Orange and the emergence of an internet hate group known as Anonymous. Supervisor Stone even parroted the cult’s anti-anonymous “dead agent” materials. At the February 24, 2009 meeting Supervisor Stone claimed that the picketing of the homes of Mormon Bishops supporting California’s Proposition 8 had prompted the ordinance and Scientology’s attorney denied being involved in the drafting process.
On the plus side we did really win because Scientology was not able to get what it wanted. One can conclude that Ordinance Number 884, as revised, does not affect the manner in which we have been picketing at Gilman Hot Springs for the past twelve years. The language of the ordinance, and the statements by the Supervisors and their counsel, made this clear.
The provisions of Ordinance 884 were not the provisions that the cult had requested or expected. Provided we do not target a particular residence we can still protest outside and opposite the Gold Base guard house and south down both sides of Highway 79. In my view one can also have a generalized picket north of the guard house but the Supervisor’s legal counsel might differ as to that. She considers that to be the location of the residences. Provided we do not “target” any of those residences a picket there should also be lawful, and under the R.T.C. building over the other side of the road from the staff apartments.
After the meeting several people spoke with me suggesting that some day we [Anonymous/OG] picket the streets of Hemet and flyer the public with the story of Stone the $cientology stooge. One of these ladies said she was going to initiate a petition for a recall election for Jeff Stone’s Supervisor’s seat. After Keith Henson was arrested at Gold Base he would picket on the business streets in Hemet. Keith Henson was convicted of misdemeanor terrorism for allegedly referring to a Tom Cruise missile strike on Gold Base.
I suggested we test the Ordinance by picketing at Gold Base which is a 45 minute drive from the City of Riverside. …
Part Two (the drama) to follow after some dinner. |
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I'mglib
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:20 am Post subject:
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Angry Gay Pope (Also, there are photos on his website, angrygaypope.com):
| Quote: | This morning the Riverside Country Board of Supers passed an ordinance that in theory gave Scientology what it wanted but did not prevent protests at Gold.
Realizing they had exhausted that avenue they seem to have decided to "invent" a citizen's arrest similar to what they pulled at the Hollywood Christmas Parade. There anonorange was subjected to citizen's arrest and then nobody came to press charges. But it did let the police take his signs and get him out of there.
Upon arrival at Golden Era Productions I was dropped off and went over to the guard shack to tell them we were going to protest. This guard who you will see on video jumps out and hassles me and my camera. They were very touchy about tresspassing and I recall him spouting some legalese about why I would be arrested. Didn't get that on vid.
Meanwhile down the hill my lawyer Graham Berry, Mark Lowell, and Wise Beard Man arrived and parked in the lot where protester AnonOrange was beaten for trespassing. Also along was a lady who once lived in the cult for years here at Gold. She spoke to the Riverside Supers that morning of how she had a twin sister still Scientology but she didn't know if the woman was still alive.
Of course they parked right where they should not as it was too close to the curb, and a security risk because we always park there. There is a nearby dirt road sci's pop out of and mess with the vehicles that they know are always there. If I had been there I would have parked farther from the curb or someplace else.
But meanwhile I wet myself, or so I thought, because SPLOOSH! Sprinkler tech! The cult that couldn't stop up with the surround sound speaker system has now added their sprinklers as crowd control. Perhaps if they could synchronize the sprinkler spurts with the the speaker sounds you could have a sort of "waltzing waters" effect. But I digress. By the end of the episode the water had gone on and off several times and left a river in the gutter. This was annoying in that my lens kept getting wet. Since my thing is to tough it out and trudge through the mud and water I ended up quite soggy. And in my dress up clothes I wore to the Supers meeting to boot! This wetness will be more pleasant when it's really hot out in the desert and I'm not in squishy dress shoes.
As the other protesters started coming up the hill they got sprayed with water designed to keep them off the curb and in dangerous traffic. I watched two Riverside Sherriff's dept vehicles pull into the gate. Usually they park outside and talk to us first. Cult bigwig Tommy Davis and Gold Base lady Catherine Fraser talked with them for a while inside. I realized later she was telling them she wanted a citizen's arrest and she pretty must wanted it now. I yelled "scientology cannot cure homosexuality ... tommy!" Well that cult cutie pie just whipped his head around when he heard his name. And this was the second time I mentioned his closeted status to him today!
The two sherriff's dept officers drove out to where we all were. They parked in front of the guard shack and one gave us the "don't block egress and ingress" speech. But then he said "pick a side" meaning you can't walk on the public road at all. We argued back and forth. I'll have to check the vids but eventually it came down to "anybody who walks really slowly or stops for even a moment in the roadway in front of the shack will be arrested. Gold leader Catherine Fraser came out to oversee as Tommy Davis stayed inside. This was unfortunate because he is sooo gorgeous in person! Tiny but handsome and a zillionaire! I really wanted to see him up close. I have been waiting some time for this. Oh, right, the narrative ....
Everyone got annoyed with the cop who appeared to be acting like a tool of the sci's. He kept making ridiculous demands about not blocking the enormous right turn lane either. He wanted us far from the guard shack. At one point he tried to push us far uphill away from the guard shack towards the Sea Org residences we are forbidden to target! We photographed everything and Graham began taking notes. I mentioned to the police that the only people blocking egress and ingress really were the cops with their parked cars in front of the guardhouse. Mark Lowell had been recording slowly as he walked across the gutter of the public road we had all walked on before. But he started walking too slow, and even though there were no cars for us to block, and even though he was not far from the curb, for a moment he was barely moving. And that's when Catherine stuck out her finger and said "him" and they came over and arrested him. At this point everything was about egress and ingress (not blocking exits) so I assumed they were going to pretend he was blocking the way. Of an empty drive.
This has been recorded and I will edit to the wee hours to get it out tonight and we can get a clearer picture of events. In the mean time check out the documents Catherine was holding at the time in the post above.
So we are livid. They arrested him for being on public property. Graham and Wise Beard Man (Emmy award winner Mark Bunker) tried to work out where the property line is based on the curb. Property lines at Gold base are always unpredictable. Then Mark Bunker walks out into the middle of the walkway where the two police cars were parked. He pauses while recording. I think to myself "Here it cooommmmeees." Officer Morales arrested him. I assumed Wise Beard Man was blocking egress and ingress but when he came out of the Hemet Sherriff's Office an hour later the charge was for "602.1(a) PC Tresspassing" - a misdemeanor. They will both have to show up in court in Murrieta April 24th. Ugh, there goes another schlep waaay down south again. Anonorange will be appearing there in June. We need to get nearby San Diego anons more involved. Go Xenubarbitol!
Up until the end we thought the cops were arresting our people directly. But at the Hemet Station we learned that the Scientologists had made a citizens arrest and the cops were forced to act. It got the protesters out of their hair ... for today. How many other people will be arrested for nothing at all before this is over at Gold?
At the police station the officer was eventually kind of apologetic and wished us the best. But earlier he seemed a lot like a tool. Later Anonorange called and told me he went back to the Riverside Supers and to our only real ally on the board, Bob Buster. Orange told Buster's assistant of the arrests and the news was relayed to the Board.
To put this in perspective, Graham was delighted that the had happened and called it a slam dunk case. Then he was told that this was a "citizen's arrest" not a "police arrest" and he said "Wow I was wrong this is a double slam dunk!" He is sure they have really overstepped their bounds and are perhaps going to get a wrongful arrest suit. He is musing about calling Board Super Jeff Stone as a witness. Others just want to protest outside Jeff Stone's house. Hey kids, be sure to stay 30 feet away from the property line. And no saying of anybody's name who lives in Jeff Stone's house. Especially Jeff Stone! Unfortunately Anonorange tells me that Stone lives in a gated community. Of course Orange had already looked into this sort of scheming months ago. Much more effective would be protests at Jeff Stone's place of business, his pharmacy, or his non-residential properties. Don't picket residences! It's just a mess. Really really a mess.
Meanwhile people who want to protest sex offenders in Riverside are now hamstrung and very angry Scientology has selfishly hijacked their rights.
Video of all to come.
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