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Sponge
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 Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:43 pm Post subject:
Leaked: Co$ Internal Stats for entire western USA region
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Interesting thread....
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leaks-legal/internal-statistics-west-us-44618
There's data going back to June last year.
Sample. w/e 23rd April 2009:
Stat #1: Number of Clears or NED Case Completions onto their next step to OT. (This is to only include the following steps: Student Hat [or Study Certainty] HQS Course, any TR Course, Solo Course Part One, Solo Certainty Course, Solo Course Part Two, OT Preps [which may include HRD or FPRD as determined by the C/S], OT Eligibility, Power, Power Plus, R6EW, Clearing Course, Sunshine RD and OT I)
10
Stat #2: Number of Pre-OTs onto their next step to OT. (This does not include refreshers or reviews. It only includes starts on OT II, III, IV, V, VIa, VIb, VIc, VII, VIII, SNCC Part I and II as well as OT Preps or Elig for one of these OT Levels.)
29
Stat #3: "Number of all other Bridge Steps started this week at a Mission, Org or SO Org. (This includes preclears onto an auditing action, raw public started on service, Div 6b Service Starts and any training started, ie: PTS/SP Course, Basics Books & Lecture Courses etc.)
161
Stat #3a: Number of Starts on Basic Books and Lectures Courses. (Basic Books and Lectures Starts are to be included under stat #3 as well..)
112
Stat #4: Amount of funds raised for Buildings or Renovations in US$. (Must be invoiced by the org, not pledged amounts.)
$364,697
Stat #5: Number of Staff recruited for Orgs assisted by the OT Committee. (This is counted when the person activates their contract and starts on post.)
3
Stat #6: "Number of Volunteer Hours Spent for the Org working on the OT Ambassador Projects. (These are the projects outlined in OT 5 of the OT Ambassador Program and Attachment.)
4126.75
Stat #7: Number of People arrived to Freewinds Congresses at an Org or to the Ship for Conventions, OT Hatting or OT Debug.
3
Stat #8: "Number of Active OT Ambassadors & OT Committee Members this week.
(Definition: An Active OT Ambassador or Active OT Committee Member is defined as someone who has directly contributed this week toward getting someone onto their next step of The Bridge, or who is on the the OT Committee of the local Org and has contributed to OTC Projects or events this week.)"
957
Stat #9: Number of Books sold to Raw Public. (This could be DMSMH or Self Analysis or any other book sold while doing dissemination activities, stress tests etc.)
62
Stat #10: Number of Events, Seminars and Briefings held. (These are specifically events to move Scientologists up the Bridge, Field Activation Events, Fundraising Events, Div 6 Lectures and workshops. This is the number of actual events. It is not the number of OT Ambassadors or OT Committee Members participating in an event. If an event is put on in which several orgs and OT Ambassadors and OT Committee Members participate, the stat is reported by the I/C of the event.)
41
Stat #11: Number of targets completed on the OT Ambassador Program.
9
Stat #12: Number of Basics Books or Lectures Series completed by OT Committee Members this week.
104
Stat #13: Number of people helped to upgrade their IAS status this week.
5
There's much, much more in the link. Snippets are being posted in the wwp thread and there is a link to a download of the leaked Excel spreadsheet file.
Stat experts, do your stuff.
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J. Swift
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| Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject:
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Thanks Sponge. This looks to me like the "Mother of all Statcrashes" for WUS -- at least to date. It will only get statcrashier until there are no more stats to crash. The final stat will be "The Final Collapse of CoS in its present form" and that will be a 100% stat.
The stats that are most interesting to me:
Stat #2: Number of Pre-OTs onto their next step to OT. (This does not include refreshers or reviews. It only includes starts on OT II, III, IV, V, VIa, VIb, VIc, VII, VIII, SNCC Part I and II as well as OT Preps or Elig for one of these OT Levels.)
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Stat #4: Amount of funds raised for Buildings or Renovations in US$. (Must be invoiced by the org, not pledged amounts.)
$364,697
Only 29 Pre-OT's moving up their Bridges to Nowhere? Only $364,697 raised for renos?
I blame it all on the fact that Norman and Lyman are not actively working and researching for Mr. Hubbard. In the old days, Norman and Lyman kept Dev-T off LRH's lines and expansion happened. Nowadays, DM has nothing but Dev-T and entheta on his lines due to his micromanagement and incompetence. A picture is worth 1,000 words:
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Wieber
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:18 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Stat #5: Number of Staff recruited for Orgs assisted by the OT Committee. (This is counted when the person activates their contract and starts on post.)
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| Quote: | | "The CSWUS corporation houses six distinct ecclesiastical organizations that includes three churches, each of which ministers religious services at a different level of the religious hierarchy described above; two supervisory organizations and an ecclesiastical support organization. [...] Except for the Church of Scientology of San Diego, all of these church organizations are located in Los Angeles where they share a large complex of buildings and facilities. [...]" |
ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology_Western_United_States
So for the last week there were three people who began as scientology staff members for three "orgs." Man, talk about expansion! (sarcasm)
I bet they all got posted as "department directors" or "division secretaries," if not higher on the "org board."
For those never in, lucky you, scientology "orgs" are divided into seven divisions, except for division 6, which is now three divisions - so nine divisions, each with three departments. Running each division is a division secretary and running each department is a director. "Orgs" are staffed from the top down. If a person joins staff in an "org" with say ten or twelve people on staff they will very likely be "posted" to one of the "executive" positions.
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Knusern
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:46 am Post subject:
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Stat #13: Number of people bullied to upgrade their IAS status this week.
5
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brownjedi
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:17 pm Post subject:
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| These numbers are weak. No wonder DM goes apeshit. |
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Sea Horse
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject:
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This database includes detailed stats for about the last year. I want to hear the midget's screams over this flap.
*rubs hands in evil glee*
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Sea Horse
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject:
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There's also duplicate stats here. Just checking on "recruits", I found 75 entries, of which 10 were known duplicates. Considering 322 days in the reporting period, that's 4.95 days per recruit for a complete West US effort. Not very stellar.
Oh... and if anyone is interested in finding their old friends, here's the recruit list:
(maybe your friend hasn't yet "arrived" and can still be talked out of it)
Michael Peterson - TCD 6/5/08
Ami Jenkins - LA ORG 6/12/08
Amy Jenkins - LA Day 6/19/08
Brian Doherty - Newport Beach 6/19/08
Jimmy Bennett - Sea Org 6/26/08
Suyen - Huston 6/26/08
Jean’s Nephew - Atlanta 7/3/08
Sabrina Rodriguez - Sacramento Org 7/10/08
Ashleigh Alley - Sacramento Org 7/17/08
Anthony Thomasello - Stevens Creek 7/24/08
Jennifer Kereczi - Brand Blvd Mission 7/24/08
Amanda Anzalone - KC 7/31/08
Mike Smith - Sacramento Org 7/31/08
Susan Shinneman - Sacramento Org 7/31/08
Alex Landrey - Boston 8/28/08
Eve Hanson - Albuquerque 8/28/08
Theresa Bloch - Pasadena 8/28/08
Caitlin Monaghan - SFO Day 9/4/08
Kathy Ray - Sac Org 9/4/08
Noah Berg - Denver 9/11/08
Laura Ryan - Denver 9/18/08
Obe Marshlian - Sea Org 9/18/08
Teresa Fanchian - SFOF 9/18/08
Tia Marashlian - Sea Org 9/18/08
Brad Hedgecort - Snr CS CC Nashville 9/25/08
Cindy Hoffman - LAF 9/25/08
Jasmine Jandreau - Sea Org 9/25/08
Sara Janick - Pasadena Org 9/25/08
Wendy Lieberman - TCD 9/25/08
Brad Hedgecort - for Snr CS CC Nashville 10/2/08
Anne O'Connor - Dallas 10/9/08
Heather Busby - AOLA 10/9/08
Heather Busby - AOLA 10/9/08
Mary Reitze - CCI 10/9/08
Tamari Chin - LAFDN 10/9/08
Dan Lacy - Denver 10/16/08
Robert Kieth - LAFDN 10/23/08
Diana Rhyne - Dallas 10/30/08
Mason Savage - Sunland Tujunga 10/30/08
Rory Green - Sacramento 10/30/08
Tyler Campbell - Phoenix 10/30/08
Brie Marashlian - Sea Org 11/13/08
Lisa Martinez - Las Vegas Org 11/13/08
Keyin Cain - SO Gold 11/20/08
Angelika Voss-Quinn - SNC 12/4/08
Tyler Quinn - SO 12/4/08
Mike Peterson - CCI (SO) 12/11/08
Robert Keith - Back on staff LA Fdn 12/11/08
Stephen Hackley - Dallas 12/11/08
Whitney Bowles - Pasadena Org 12/18/08
Marian Gibbons - CLO WUS 1/1/09
Kat Markham - Sea Org 1/22/09
Zack Hahne - KC Org 1/22/09
Alez Landri - CLO EUS 1/29/09
Joe Hubbard - Dallas 1/29/09
Ashleigh Alley - Staff 2/5/09
Farah Laufer - SO 2/5/09
JR Arnett - Dallas 2/5/09
Traci Boya - Berkeley Mission 2/12/09
Erin Green - MTV 2/19/09
Robin Rhyne - Dallas 2/19/09
Steve Goodman - Dallas 2/19/09
Justin Daly - Sacramento 3/6/09
Reldie McNeil - Sacramento 3/6/09
Jarod Pantermuehl - Nashville 3/12/09
Michele Arora - Stevens Creek 3/19/09
Karen Capo - Pasadena Org 3/26/09
Adele Clarke - SO AOLA 4/2/09
Farah Laufer - CCI 4/2/09
Maria Fallager - SO 4/2/09
Karen Marie Capo - Portland Day 4/9/09
Debora Bolin - Dallas 4/16/09
Lauren Mannix - Dallas Org 4/23/09
Mason Savage - Office of Landlord 4/23/09
Taylor Joost - SO 4/23/09
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Don Carlo
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:25 pm Post subject:
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Many recruits will quit, because for an individual able to choose, the training "works" to the extent you are hypnotizable.
| Quote: | The Stanford scales...are still used today to determine the extent to which a subject responds to hypnosis. One version...consists of a series of 12 activities--such as holding one's arm outstretched or sniffing the contents of a bottle--that test the depth of the hypnotic state. In the first instance, individuals are told that they are holding a very heavy ball, and they are scored as "passing" that suggestion if their arm sags under the imagined weight. In the second case, subjects are told that they have no sense of smell, and then a vial of ammonia is waved under their nose. If they have no reaction, they are deemed very responsive to hypnosis; if they grimace and recoil, they are not.
Scoring on the Stanford scales ranges from 0, for individuals who do not respond to any of the hypnotic suggestions, to 12, for those who pass all of them. Most people score in the middle range (between 5 and 7); 95 percent of the population receives a score of at least 1. |
from http://www.sciam.com/2001/0701issue/0701nash.html (link no longer exists) - more discussion at More proof hypnosis works - Scientific American, http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=3918
My comment: some people, even if they are not very hypnotizable, get trapped in Scientology out of fear of disconnection or fear of "going insane" if they leave or fear of blackmail. But newbies have fewer vulnerabilities, and those resistant to hypnosis will think the training routines are pointless, annoying, and intrusive, and they will just stop coming. The law of averages means that CoS will occasionally pull in a "hypnosis virtuoso," a highly suggestible person who thinks he is "really" floating above his body when he is experiencing powerful but misleading sensations. This person will be enchanted by the experience and the love-bombing he gets for being so "special." This person is quite vulnerable to being suckered into the next course while he is still euphoric from his auditing. Sadly, this person might give CoS all his money and his youth and never realize he could have gotten the same experience from a dime-a-dozen hypnotist.
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spacecootie
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject:
Re: Leaked: Co$ Internal Stats for entire western USA region
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| Sponge wrote: | Sample. w/e 23rd April 2009:
Stat #1: Number of Clears or NED Case Completions onto their next step to OT. (This is to only include the following steps: Student Hat [or Study Certainty] HQS Course, any TR Course, Solo Course Part One, Solo Certainty Course, Solo Course Part Two, OT Preps [which may include HRD or FPRD as determined by the C/S], OT Eligibility, Power, Power Plus, R6EW, Clearing Course, Sunshine RD and OT I)
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Maybe I am reading it wrong, but this actually looks like a pretty decent stat for the Scilons. Would ten "Clears or NED Case Completions onto their next step to OT" mean that Co$ is producing ten clears or NED completions a week?
(Of course, I don't believe there is any such thing as a Clear, so I am simply using the term to refer to people who are told, "Great! Very well done! You are now Clear and can move on to even more expensive courses that will never, ever, end...and you can impress other Scilons by telling them them you are an OT!") |
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probity
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject:
Stat 2 is Number of Pre-OTs onto their next step to OT.
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Stat 2 is Number of Pre-OTs onto their next step to OT.
Further defined: This does not include refreshers or reviews. It only includes starts on OT II, III, IV, V, VIa, VIb, VIc, VII, VIII, SNCC Part I and II as well as OT Preps or Elig for one of these OT Levels.
Keep in mind these are stats for the OT Committee, not internal stats for the Orgs themselves. The stats reflect the production of external OT Committees on their program to get products on OT levels.
Looking at the "Product List" detail for this Stat, I make the following observations:
Of the total 1,347 products of Pre-OTs onto their next step to OT (and once again keeping in mind this is just OT Committee generated starts), I calculate starts by OT Level totaling 380 OT levels started over the last 46 weeks:
1 - 9
2 - 18
3 - 22
4 - 34
5 - 99
6 - 293 (Note: Parts A B and C counted separately, divide by 3)
7 - 62
8 - 38
Everything else on the list is pretty much a prep, eligibility, setup or the even more nebulous 'BOL' which I would venture to guess means "Back On Lines"
elig - 124
BOL - 122
prep - 276
setup - 134
Of the 1,347 entries on the list, 654 names are unique.
The total number of active Pre OTs in the West US isn't large, but it is at least 650 or so.
It also means these Pre OTs took an average of two baby steps on the bridge in the last 46 weeks.
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probity
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject:
Re: Leaked: Co$ Internal Stats for entire western USA region
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| spacecootie wrote: | | Would ten "Clears or NED Case Completions onto their next step to OT" mean that Co$ is producing ten clears or NED completions a week? |
No, it would mean existing clears (or NED comps) taking a next step on the bridge. This is more a gauge or reactivating existing clears than a stat of clear production. |
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elwood
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject:
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These statistics would mean a lot more if we had the previous 12 months for comparison. The statistics as they are graphed appear to be "flat" with no clear trend.
$23MM bucks is a lot of money considering these stats are only for the western U.S. (where most of the scienos are). Could we assume around $35MM worldwide? I would love to know how that compares to the running costs of the cult. Can you spell negative cash flow?
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probity
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject:
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| elwood wrote: | | Could we assume around $35MM worldwide? |
These are stats for the OT Ambassadors working within the OT Committees. These are not the stats of Orgs in the WUS. The financial numbers deserve more interpretation, but are in no may reflective of total Scientology cashflow in the West US, nor can they intelligently be extrapolated to a worldwide amount. |
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RedPill
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:04 am Post subject:
what about Anon stats?
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The last time I was at a picket, which was late last summer here in St. Louis, the monthly picketing had fallen off, not too many people showing up. How has it been lately, as far as the monthly picketing and the flash raids? Are they still happening?
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spacecootie
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:23 am Post subject:
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| elwood wrote: | | $23MM bucks is a lot of money considering these stats are only for the western U.S. (where most of the scienos are). Could we assume around $35MM worldwide? |
But Flag is in Florida, and supposed to be the Scilon Mecca. Do they bring in more than the LA advanced orgs? |
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