L. Ron Hubbard Locked Children in Chain Lockers on his Ship

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L. Ron Hubbard Locked Children in Chain Lockers on his Ship

Post by J. Swift » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:25 am

The very early Scientology critics publicized the fact that L. Ron Hubbard incarcerated people, even very young children, inside of the filthy wet chain lockers aboard The Apollo as a form of punishment. A ship has several chain lockers. These are compartments where the anchor chain is stored when the ship is moving. When the anchors are dropped, the chain is pulled from the lockers. Seaweed, algae, rust and filth collect inside of chain lockers. Here is what a chain locker looks like:

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Critics can now come around full circle back to the chain locker incidents to show where LRH began to institutionalize physical and mental cruelty in the Sea Org. We must ensure that these victims of Hubbard's cruelty not be forgotten. The record of cruelty in Scientology includes these children whom Hubbard imprisoned in dangerous chain lockers aboard his ship.

I suppose that Tommy Davis and Monique Yingling will defend locking up a deaf and mute child in a chain locker on a ship as normal religious discipline. After all, LRH said that children are merely adults in small bodies and expected to act like adults and incur adult punishment. Scientology has always thought in this insane way.

When David Miscavige beat his staff members, he was acting on LRH's infamous legacy of locking people up aboard ship and in RPF as well. False imprisonment, physical beatings, and mental cruelty have been widely reported from former Scientologists over five decades. The public can now see a generational pattern of abuse and cruelty in Scientology. Tommy Davis admitted that this pattern had been allowed to occur. David Miscavige needs to be brought to justice and made to answer to a jury.

From Mike Gormez:
Witnesses describe child lockups by Scientologists
Part of Tax-exempt Child Abuse and Neglect by Mike Gormez. Visit the message board


Founder of Scientology - L. Ron Hubbard - ordered lockup of 4½ year old little boy. Transcripts and images of TV program SECRET LIVES - L. Ron Hubbard
He put this 4½ year old little boy - Derek Greene - into the chain locker for two days and two nights. It's a closed metal container, it's wet, it's full of water and seaweed, it smells bad. But Derek was sitting up, on the chain, in this place, on his own, in the dark, for two days and two nights... people heard him crying. That is sheer, total brutality. That is child abuse.
(View SECRET LIVES - L. Ron Hubbard in realvideo)


Founder of Scientology - L. Ron Hubbard - ordered lockup of deaf-mute girl -- From the book "Messiah or Madman" by Bent Corydon
Hubbard had ordered a little girl who was a deafmute down into the chain locker sometime in 1968. Hubbard was going to cure her deaf-ness by shoving her down there! This came to my attention after she'd been there for about a week because the Master at Arms at the time, a beautiful girl, came to me and said, "John, I've got to have you come and see what's going on."

From the book "Religion Inc.: the Church of Scientology" by Stewart Lamont:
McMaster remembers once being asked by the Master at Arms to come and help her, He pulled up the wedge from the chain-locker, a dank and unhealthy part of the ship into which offenders were flung without food as a punishment. Out crawled a little girl who turned out to be a deaf-mute who had been unable to write her name and had incurred the Commodore's wrath.

Affidavit of Monica Pignotti:
I also witnessed a fourteen year old boy being locked up in the chain locker of the ship, where he was made to spend the night. The chain locker is a small dark space where the chain to the anchor to the ship is stored when the ship is not at anchor. The boy was being put in the chain locker by three teen-age L. Ron Hubbard messengers. I witnessed this happening several times to people, even though I never experienced it myself.

Interview with David Mayo (auf Deutsch)
The length of time for children would vary, but no one was there less than a day. The average was a week or two. Three weeks was about the maximum. Age didn't matter. The youngest kids were 5, 6 or 7. Old, young, men, women, big, little; it wouldn't matter because to Scientologists the being is ageless so you don't think in terms of how young or old someone is.

Little Mark and Tony
The four-year-old boy could no longer cry. He had been nearly 48 hours in the chain locker of the flagship _Apollo_ and his entire body was aching from his efforts to chip off rust. His knees and hands were raw with cuts and bruises. His voice was raspy from crying, and he was desperately afraid.

Keep in mind that the chain locker was a dangerous and scary place to be put in. One adult nearly was killed there. Was it no pleasure for adults, the experience for little children must have been a very traumatic one.

From the book "messiah or madman" by bent corydon:
The chain locker was dangerous. Located at the very bow of the ship under the water-line. It was the place where the section of the chain not in the water was stored. When the entire chain was brought up it filled most of this comparatively small, wet, dark, and some- times rat-infested locker. The only thing that was holding the chain in the locker was what is called a devil's claw, which was located well above the locker on the deck of the ship. If someone were to kick the claw, the entire chain would be pulled at high speed out of the locker by the weight of the anchor, and anyone down in the locker could very easily get caught in the outgoing chain and be yanked to his death.

Lawrence Wollersheim interviews Jesse Prince who was 2nd in command of Scientology
Just looking at it now, those children were so under-nourished, just not whole, complete children, because L. Ron Hubbard figures barley water is better than milk. . . I've seen those children, 15 to 20 of them in a filthy room, filthy carpet, food everywhere, and playing. If one of them got out of line, they'd just lock them in a room and let them scream itself to death, or scream itself to sleep. . . They make them do what's called rocks and shows, where if they do something that they weren't told to do, they have to do sit-ups, push-ups from the cradle they are punished. From the cradle the children are punished.(for more on Hubbard's barley water formula see the barley page)
ref: http://members.chello.nl/mgormez/childa ... k-ups.html

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Post by J. Swift » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:28 am

Continued from above:
Delphi puts sick boy in solitary confinement.
Biased Journalism Volume, December 25, 1996
The boy was locked in a small room with no TV, no entertainment and no company, for almost the entire time. He was fed and an adult came to check on him a few times during the day. . . an ethics officer, who stood by while the child talked to his mother. The message was clear, "don't you dare complain."


FLAG ORDER 1630 , 3 December 1968 by L. Ron Hubbard
If a child or these children are found in Hold l _or_ any hidden compartment of the ship they are to be locked up.


Affidavit of Tonja C. Burden
25 January 1980
On a number of occasions, I saw people placed in the 'chain lockers' of the boat on direct orders of Hubbard. These lockers were small, smelly holes, covered by grates where the chain for the anchor was stored. I saw one boy held in there for 30 nights, crying and begging to be released. He was only allowed out to clean the bilges where the sewer and refuse of the ship collected. I believe his 'crimes' were taking or using a musical instrument, I believe a flute, of someone else without permission. I also saw a young boy and a young girl thrown in the chain lockers at separate times because of romantic involvements they had with other people.

Life aboard Scientology's ship 'The Apollo' in 1968
Posting of Steve Manning 8 Mar 2000:
I was twelve years old and witnessed children younger than myself being thrown into the chain locker (a room for storing the anchor while at sea) for days on end until they persuaded the ethics officer that they were not enemies. Physical abuse of children was rife.

Sister page: Children and teens and Scientology's Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF)
According to Scientology "Any law which applies to the behavior of men and women applies to children" and "A child is a man or a woman who has not attained full growth." On the basis of these direct quotes of the founder of Scientology and Dianetics, L. Ron Hubbard, it is no surprise that the harsh forced labour and self-confessions on the RPF program with its social isolation and a maximum of 6 hours of sleep per night, is also applied to children.
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Post by tamasin-sp » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:21 pm

Quote J. Swift.


Founder of Scientology - L. Ron Hubbard - ordered lockup of deaf-mute girl -- From the book "Messiah or Madman" by Bent Corydon
Hubbard had ordered a little girl who was a deafmute down into the chain locker sometime in 1968. Hubbard was going to cure her deaf-ness by shoving her down there! This came to my attention after she'd been there for about a week because the Master at Arms at the time, a beautiful girl, came to me and said, "John, I've got to have you come and see what's going on."

From the book "Religion Inc.: the Church of Scientology" by Stewart Lamont:
McMaster remembers once being asked by the Master at Arms to come and help her, He pulled up the wedge from the chain-locker, a dank and unhealthy part of the ship into which offenders were flung without food as a punishment. Out crawled a little girl who turned out to be a deaf-mute who had been unable to write her name and had incurred the Commodore's wrath.


I am sure this IS the same little girl that I saw in the chain locker, or at least half in half out of an opening on the deck, the metal grid pushed aside.There was a crowd of people around at this time, mostly adults and my lasting impression is that no body was doing anything about it. No one rushed forward and picked her out of the hole, noone picked her up and cuddled her. No one.

I'm really upset sitting here reading this thread, remembering a time only too well of just coming out of the hold, Hana talking to an officer whom I hadn't seen before, but who I was to see quite a bit of over the next few days while writing up my Liability formula.Dressed in full naval uniform, so very important as far as the seo org was concerned.

The disdain on his face looking at this filthy little low life (me) who had spent however long in the hold, has stayed with me to this day.I never did know this officers name, but i'm sure I know the face.

As i'm reading this I just got a call from my daughter who has just recieved a 200 question "Free personality" test through her door, from an address in Bexhill on sea, which is near St. Leonards on sea home of Narconon UK , which is near Hastings.

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Post by Bea Kiddo » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:12 pm

Karen Roussouw spent time in the chain locker many times.

One reason I know of was because she was dumping a bucket of dirty water over the ship and a few sprinkly hit LRon. She was sent to the chain locker for it.

If I remember right, she got on the ship around 4 or 5 years of age. I know she was under 16 when the above incident occured.

I dont think she was the deaf mute though. Another story.
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Post by SeeYaBye » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:06 pm

Thanks Sponge. These are very powerful videos. Especially the first one -- quite haunting.
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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:44 pm

+++++++++++++++Sacred Cult Scripture+++++++++++++

I don’t know where people keep their consciences—lunch boxes
or something like that.

— L. Ron Hubbard
Lecture 01 November 1962: The Missed Missed Withhold

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