I was refering to incompetence by governements failling to adress the issue adequatly.
bird wrote:on the subject of governments and scientology, i would advice not to attribute to malice the things that can be explained by incompetence.
The way $cientology has been crafted, as an international psycho-political social control regimen is anything but incompetent, (why have certain countries had such a hard time dealing with a fraud based on, as you say, "incompetence"? see longer reply repudiating J Swift's call for further discussion of their satanic trappings which IMO which were and are used as a 'suitable guise' or 'shore story' for the real ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY(tm), that was developed for and successfully engineered the thinking of the minds that supported or merely tolerated the rise of the Third Reich.
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As far as I can see, only France, Belgium, Germany and Russia have taken the full measure of the problem.
But that's enough to put DM behind bars. Just you guys be patient. It's only a question of time. It would go faster if we europeans had a little more help from the US authorities, but I'm confident this will come pretty soon.
Yup, thats how I read it.
[Warning: rambling digression but relevant opinion......]
What you also have is a tendency for politicians to give anything "religiously problematic" (including "pseudo religious") a wide birth when it comes to taking any kind of action, in terms of root cause.
This is why the cult needs its "pseudo secular" front groups. Informing the politicians and civil servants of these front groups is sometimes an uphill struggle. Made worse when the front groups have front groups
In Europe (perhaps with the exception of "Popeland", i.e. Italy, Spain and Portugal) you don't usually get any built-in reverence toward religion (even though I personally feel that they get listened to by officials far too much for their "moral" opinions).
In most places though, it is just such a non-subject, or a personal thing and doesn't tend to be an issue in terms of voting.
In the USA, which has the seperation of church and state written into its constitution, rather than as a mere sensible assumption, has possibly one of the worse records in the western world for allowing religion to affect legislature. It's not just powerful lobbyng. It is the general attitude and it is invasive. No prospective US councillor, senator, president etc would dare forget to mention during an election campaign that he is an active christian and church goer because somehow that wins more votes than it loses. In Europe, largely noone cares and or would consider it a kind of political non-sequitur.
For as long as it seems normal to some Americans to thrust "God Bless America" in the faces of people who don't fucking care, you will always have an inbuilt reluctance, from the top down to truly get to the root of a fraudulent organisation that uses the cover of religion to stay out of the legal limelight.
Thus, changing legislation to make it easier to prosecute organisations and individuals abusing the privilege of automatic protection trough "freedom to pratice your religion" is a somewhat disproportionately harder thing to achieve in the USA. Part of the problem is that such legislation would wipe out a shit load of the christian scams too and you have a potential political shitstorm as "religion" as a whole gets the wrong end of the stick, temporarily ignores their differences of opinion on other's brand of religion, and descends on the goverment whining that it is being attacked. In fact, it doesnt have to "descend" on government at all.... it is already in it.
What I find grossly offensive is how the US State Department's annual global report on how other countries treat religion. I mean, where the hell do you go with this, questioning other countries but not questioning the borderine religions themselves? They don't just write reports, they also attempt to interfere with subtle threats of "repercussions" (as they did in Germany when US officials had words with a local councillor about a warning poster about scientology that he refused to take down until he was legally forced to).
So, back to Bird's point, yes it would be nice to have a big sway in the attitude from the USA and receive some help in getting rid of the criminal pseudo religious pollution it nurtures and lets spread globally. Also, back to the original point, I'm not sure about deep conspiracies but I'd tend to go along more with the idea that it is simply a severely flawed system that is easily taken advantage of in certain areas by any organisation with money and an agenda.