Why Protests Work & Why CoS Still Lies to Its Members!

J. Swift · Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 8893 Location: 100 Swift Street

Based on conversations with more Newly-Blown Scientologists:

1. Protests are highly effective. Even one person/one sign raids get noticed by current Scientologists. I have heard this repeatedly now from many newly-blown members to whom I talk: The presence of protesters sends up a major red flag. Scientologists do read the signs and listen to what is being said. Protests remain highly effective. I talked to someone who was in over thirty years and he identified protesters last year as one of the major factors in the process of him leaving CoS.

2. Any mention of Xenu on a sign still shocks OT's. OT's still believe the OT levels are a secret. Xenu is not seen as an alien by OT's. He is simply seen as a person from another planet. LRH anthropomorphized aliens/ET's so that they became humans in different bodies. OT's see aliens in the human way as presented on Star Trek or Star Wars. When Xenu is escalated to alien/ET, it causes a perceptual shift. This is not trivial for OT's. The public knowing about Xenu deeply disturbs OT's and Sea Org who are OT.

3. CoS still lies to its members and withholds crucial facts. Example: The hardcore members still do not know that L. Ron Hubbard died following two strokes with the psych drug Vistaril in his body. They still have not seen this picture of LRH as an old man:

4. It is still true: Scientologists are not allowed to read any critical websites. It is still a serious ethics offense. However, once a hardcore Scientologists gets on the internet, they will spend weeks and months reading everything they can.

5. It is still true: Scientologists do not know the basic facts of their own church. They believe the PR and expansion stats. They tend not interact with non-Scientologists or to minimize interactions.

6. Scientologists live in a highly censored false reality system where the sense of group and loyalty is extraordinarily strong. The distortion of reality in Scientology is incredibly hard for a non-believer to fathom.

7. The Tech is a tautological system that keeps Scientologists locked into a circular argument: "I am still not fixed because I need (fill in the name of the course, level, or Congress)." Hardcore Scientologists want to get better and are not allowed to believe that the Tech does not work. Thus, they are perpetually at fault. They are stuck in a "this lifetime" belief in which it becomes easy to write off "this lifetime" and give it to CoS. For a Scientologist, Heaven is reincarnating into that fabled wealthy Scientology family next lifetime.

8. CoS sells its courses, levels, and other products just like a fake doctor sells miracle pills to cure everything. Scientologists believe that if they can hang on until they get the "exact" thing that cracks their case they will finally be okay. If not this lifetime, then next lifetime.

9. Tory has always had it right: It is a Truman Show existence in CoS. Outside reality breaks it apart. If you have never watched The Truman Show movie with Jim Carrey, watch it.

10. Outside reality is like a hammer on glass for a Scientologist. Once the Truman Show breaks, it cannot be put back together. The sky itself is not real in Scientology:

The real sky allows for unlimited thinking and powerful true flight:
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Wieber · Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 5495

curiosity · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 469

Fascinating report. It is good to get an update on what the "think" is inside the COS world right now. For many OTs, it sounds like Scientology has become a religion of despair. They need to realize that whatever "wins" there are in Scientology are limited, and they've already had them. Now it's time to move on and pursue their goals--personal, spiritual, social--outside Scientology. If they don't, they will just waste precious months and years pursuing "gains" that just aren't there to be had.

Hubbard's Mushroom · Joined: 25 Mar 2004 Posts: 8292

+++++++++++Sacred Cult Scripture+++++++++++++++

Insanities have as their end product self or group destruction.

— L. Ron Hubbard
HCOPL 14 December 1970 Group Sanity

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J. Swift · Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 8893 Location: 100 Swift Street

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J. Swift · Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 8893 Location: 100 Swift Street

J. Swift · Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 8893 Location: 100 Swift Street

Our next Flag success is Jim Jaroff, who was undoubtedly called "Jim Giraffe" when he was a kid. Jim Giraffe is now a New OT VII. When he finishes New OT VIII, he will get to move onto the Basics just like Greg Smith and all of the other New OT VIII's and raw publics!

Jim Giraffe's win on New OT VII was that a tightness in his throat went away. Ahhh, Jim, I have some news for you: That tightness is called a "lump in your throat" and is Nature's warning sign of impending danger. Oh well. Now that you've spent all of that money to go OT VIII only to discover that you mocked up your past lives, the next part of your anatomy that will tighten up is below the waist. Oh wait! You're only an OT VII and I mentioned the cog for OT VIII by accident. Sorry Jim. Just mentally cancel it in your area. Go back in time to before you read this post and give yourself a command to forget. You're OT VII, you can do that kind of stuff!

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J. Swift · Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 8893 Location: 100 Swift Street

Finally, Captain Harvey Jackoff presents us with "R.H." an L11 completion. She is just one "L" short of being LRH! R. H. had a change of space pro-cess occur in session. She became a giant, but was then magically, and thankfully, returned to normal size before the world itself was destroyed by her immense enormousness. Whenever we get a shaker here in Los Angeles, Cal Tech seismologists always calls AOLA because most of our earthquakes actually come from monster sessions at AO. Were you ever a giant like R.H.?

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Don Carlo · Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 4591

J. Swift, is there any proof LRH became an Eagle Scout? Becoming an Eagle Scout takes a lot of skill, study, patience, pluck, perseverance, and working well in groups. These are not LRH skills. His main skill was LYING about how great he was and what impressive things he had achieved. Repeated lying would get you thrown out of the Boy Scouts.

If he weren't thrown out for lying and cheating, I bet Hubbard quit after about three low-level badges, after he realized it would be REAL WORK to make it to Eagle Scout. Maybe lying about making Eagle Scout, and realizing people would SWALLOW the lies, was the start of his career in bare-faced lying.

Wieber · Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 5495

I have seen many of these completion success stories. Most of them, even the lower level ones, have some indication of something in a person's life that has been handled and a statement that now things will be different and for the better. That's all very nice but I have never seen the six month, one year, five year, ten year follow up success stories that recall the completion and how whatever it did made it possible for the person completing to make things different and for the better. Am I asking for too much here?

Maybe so but I would think that a person completing one of these things and effecting extreme positive change in their life would make it a point to come back and make another statement of their success. I just think that's something that would happen and I haven't seen it happen.
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Don Carlo · Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 4591

Saying OT7 was a breakthrough implies OT6 was a disappointment.

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