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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Karen#1 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:44 am

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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Karen#1 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:59 pm

As soon as someone comes out against the cult or their celebs ~~ the wheels go into motion for Office of Special Affairs International (OSA INT) to do what is called a Threat Assessment.
To do a Threat Assessment every single folder, dossier, file in the cult including all confessional files, ethics files are sent to OSA to TIME TRACK the individual. This is laid out in chronological time sequence from birth, to school days forward. Every connection ever mentioned in a session is itemized.
Then a prediction is ASSESSED of how much THREAT the person poses.
This is why they knew that Chrissie's father had a pet name of "Christmas"
Everything ever told to them in a confessional is FAIR GAME.
Are they likely to whistleblow to media ?
Are they likely to write a book
Is there a prediction that they will be posting their dark secrets on the internet
etc etc etc.

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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Wieber » Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:20 pm

They collect information on people who have never been in Scientology and may not even know anything about Scientology. All the names that come up in interrogation sessions (they're not called that) that reference a person the subject (often called 'preclear' or 'pre-OT') names as someone they knew or even met once, get a folder.

I once body routed a minor celebrity (they were not a well known name in the entertainment/information industry). I was called in, as were all the lower org staff, for an 'interview', not auditing, by agents of the guardian's office, now renamed the office of special affairs. I had contact with this person and interaction with them for, at most, five minutes. They came up in the interrogation but I could not remember their name. I got called back for seven more interrogation sessions, and each time I was asked about this person, and each time I couldn't remember their name. I spent more time being questioned about them that I had spent bringing them in for a personality test.

I speculate that the other people involved in testing and public registration didn't remember that person, which is why I got called back so often. So I have to assume Scientology didn't get this person's name and didn't open a folder on them. I'm happy about that now.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Karen#1 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:20 pm

One of the worst cover-ups in the Scientology cult was anattempted homicide. Happened circa 1988 in Los Angeles.
The "Commanding Officer" of INCOMM, the computer division of the Cult snapped and tried to strangle his wife Noomie.
Because of the very high security of INCOMM, easy access through the doors is not easy.

Chuck used the strength of a madman and was suffocating the life out of Noomie when she was rescued. It takes minutes to strangle someone to death, not instantaneous.

it was so serious, that even the RPF gulag was not considered.
Chuck was promptly kicked out of the Sea Org and the cult found him a job in a computer company. He got away with no justice, no report to LAPD.


But he then threatened the cult.
And would you believe what the cult did ?
They forced Noomie, to go live with him, and share the marital bed til he calmed down and was no longer a threat. And she did.
All hushed hushed and buried by Office of Special Affiars.
They got a nearly strangled woman to have sex with her would be killer.
This was in the cult's eyes "self preservation"
In this video I explain how far the cult will go in cover up to hide crimes.

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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Karen#1 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:58 am


In this short 2 min video Hubbard is calling cops "merchants of chaos" and denigrates and disparages them.​
In real live Scientology Inc crave to be photographed with cops for "PR reasons"
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I wish I could post this video in some Police forums and blogs....have to search to find them​

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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Wieber » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:37 am

In Alexandra Stein's Terror, Love and Brainwashing, when comparing cult organization to layers of an onion, she refers to the outer layer and the image presented to non members and potential recruits as the 'propaganda layer.' From reading her book I have concluded that what Hubbard and Scientology refers to as 'PR' is not 'public relations,' as stated. It's propaganda. I think it's a more apt interpretation.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Karen#1 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:50 am

Today Show
June 27th 2018

Former Scientologist shares his story, interactions with Tom Cruise
After being raised in the Church of Scientology, Brendan Tighe says he signed a “Billion-Year Contract” with the Sea Organization, which is devoted to the most devout members of the church. Tighe says that reports of auditions to be in a relationship with Tom Cruise were accidentally sent to his printer, which is how he learned that an interaction with Cruise and actress Scarlett Johansson didn’t go well. He left scientology in 2011, and joins Megyn Kelly TODAY with his story.


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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Karen#1 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:24 pm

***New Video***
Peter Nyiri shares his ongoing story on life in the cult and FLEEING the Cult
Jeffrey Augustine continues the conversation. Says Jeffrey: “Peter Nyiri shares an inside view of the Sea Org culture within: How does the Sea Org act towards each other? For example, Peter had several bosses who constantly gave him multiple and conflicting orders — and this while expecting him to get all orders done all at once. Peter also talks about the constant screaming and endless mental abuse inflicted upon Sea Org members by Sea Org managers. Peter also discusses Scientology TV; the inefficiency of Scientology’s in-house printing factory called Bridge Publications; and the psychologically cruel event that caused him and his wife to escape from the Sea Org.”

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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Wieber » Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:22 am

I may have done this before but I don't remember and I haven't done it in a long time.

Brendan Tighe, out of Scientology for six years, this is for you.

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WOOT!

(I recently found out that the etymology for 'woot' is that it comes out of Dungeons & Dragons and other
role playing games. It developed from, "Wow! Treasure!" Treasure typically came after defeating a monster.)

(Edit: I just want to correct the above. 'Woot,' does not come from "Wow! Treasure!" It actually comes from, "Wow! Loot!" Same concept, slightly different wording.)
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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Karen#1 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:02 am


Peter Niyri discusses the ways in David Miscavige and RTC Rep Network issues orders concerning the day-to-day operations of the Church of Scientology Int'l. The directly contravenes what Miscavige's attorneys told a Texas court when they claimed Miscavige had nothing to do with managing the daily affairs of CSI.
There are no checks and balances in the Church of Scientology as it told the IRS in its 1992 1023 application for 501(c)3 tax exemption.
Peter also describes the extremely poor quality -- literally nonexistent at times of medical care in the Sea Org.
Peter then switches topics to the release of the Basics in 2007 when the focus in Scientology was selling Basics libraries. He and his fellow Sea Org members worked from 9:15 AM to 5:00 AM -- an 18 workday. This was done seven days a week for six months.

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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Wieber » Sun Jul 22, 2018 11:04 pm

I don't know if I've done this for Peter Niyri, so this is for Peter.

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WOOT!

Watching this segment of Peter Niyri's interview resonates so much with Alexandra Stein's Terror, Love & Brainwashing. I recently finished reading it and will have more to say about the book in another thread.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Karen#1 » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:01 am

Roxanne Minnaar, the girl on the left side of the image on the Bunker today is from South Africa, and got in the SO at ~ 13 years old.

They shanghaied her as a young teen.

She never went to a prom. She never had the life of any teenager. She has

been trained to be a Sea Org Vulture in the tradition of Charmaine Roger.

Her entire life since 13 is doing whatever it

takes to enrich and enable the Sea Organization. She has been

indoctrinated to think its OK to rip off a 75 year old.

When they are recruited at a tender age, they really swallow it all and operate on "the greatest good" (for the cult. Greatest Good = extort money and steal, raise credit limits, take out new credit cards, vampire suction out every last dime..
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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Wieber » Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:07 am

Karen#1 wrote:
Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:01 am
Roxanne Minnaar, the girl on the left side of the image on the Bunker today is from South Africa, and got in the SO at ~ 13 years old.

They shanghaied her as a young teen.

She never went to a prom. She never had the life of any teenager. She has

been trained to be a Sea Org Vulture in the tradition of Charmaine Roger.

Her entire life since 13 is doing whatever it

takes to enrich and enable the Sea Organization. She has been

indoctrinated to think its OK to rip off a 75 year old.

When they are recruited at a tender age, they really swallow it all and operate on "the greatest good" (for the cult. Greatest Good = extort money and steal, raise credit limits, take out new credit cards, vampire suction out every last dime..


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I'm really disappointed. When I started reading your post I thought you were going to say Roxanne Minnaar is not out of Scientology. You know this as well as I do, that people in the ranks of the Scientology organizations are victims and perpetrators at the same time. I hope one day soon we'll be seeing Jeffrey Augustine interviewing Roxanne about her sea org experiences.
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Post by Karen#1 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:07 pm


Sunset Boulevard is arguably THE most traveled street in Los Angeles. It is a major artery with 1000s of cars on it at any given time. It cuts through Los Angeles East to West all the way to the Pacific Ocean, sometimes traffic is at a crawl due to the sheer amount of traffic. And right up on a prominent part of Sunset Boulevard is Leah. (just happened.)
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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Karen#1 » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:41 pm

After 22 years of giving the Cult of Scientology the benefit of the doubt that all would work out for the better, Peter not only escaped but, in a dramatic pulse-pounding episode, worked out a plan in which his wife escaped with him at Tampa Airport. This escape was planned down to the second given that Scientology uses its "Blow Drill" tactics to immediately team to track down and capture escaped Sea Org members. This video covers more of inside culture in the cult.
A married couple does not get a private space but lives in bunk berthing with their own sex for some months til they get allocated a room !
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