Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Karen#1 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:12 pm

Today I did a live radio show which broadcast out of Bogota Columbia but also reached these locations
Bogotá
Medellin
Cali
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Pereira
Ibagué
Cartagena
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Miami
NY
Madrid It is also syndicated to several Latin American Countries.


There was an immediate translator in real time, I speak French but not Spanish.
Most clever question from the host :

As the most precious thing we have on earth is FAMILY and the FAMILY
unit, why is Scientology so destructive of families and why is there so
much media on families broken up and destroyed by Scientology ?
I spent a few minutes on Miscavige and his violence and referred them to CNN A history of violence.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Wieber » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:40 am

Breaking up families is not unique to Scientology. It is an attribute of cults/totalist systems. In Alexandra Stein's Terror, Love & Brainwashing, she applies attachment theory to cults, which results in some, for me, new insights into the organization and practices of cults, which Stein also identifies as totalist systems. In chapter 5, Family and Friends, she deals with why cult leaders arrange to break family cohesion so that the leader becomes the primary attachment for everyone within the group. Cult leaders often set themselves up as the father figure or best friend. For example Scientology refers to L. Ron Hubbard as 'Mankind's Greatest Friend' ®. Unfortunately for the current leader of Scientology this status, still held by Hubbard, makes it difficult for David Miscavige to make it his.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Karen#1 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:53 am

Adrian Vanegas was 17 years old and had just graduated high school in his hometown of Bogota. He had been attracted to Scientology by its study technology. He quickly signed a 2.5 year staff contract and was appointed as the Director of Communications for the Bogota Org. Located in a private home in an upscale neighborhood, it would be twenty-five years before David Miscavige would pull a rope to open the big new 8-story Scientology Org in downtown Bogota. Adrian recounts many interesting stories of his time on staff in Colombia and gives us a look into Scientology in Latin America. Adrian left Scientology in 2005 and did a slow fade out from the organization.

He also worked at Los Angeles Org (LA Day for 5 years)

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Post by Karen#1 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:01 am

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Former Sea Org member Peter Nyiri discusses stories from his time in the Sea Org. Stories include the gifts David Miscavige received from Sea Org Orgs twice a year; the BMW shown in the thumbnail references the BMW David Miscavige received from a forced collection of Sea Org's meager stipend. Other stories include 90 hour work weeks; loss of canteen privileges; sleep deprivations; and punishments for not meeting money targets. This is all part of the hellish and punishing life that is the Sea Org.
The BMW you see is a Birthday gift from mandatory payments from staff pay for David Miscavige.
Money was just taken out of the payroll for expensive gifts
for El Chapo Miscavige.

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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Karen#1 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 3:25 am

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Robert Dam stayed in Scientology working for years feverishly and departed 25 years later. He was declared Suppressive Person. This is a common "EP" at the end of the road in the Scientology experience.
Robert joined Scientology when he was a young man with dreams of being a professional musician.
He soon joined Scientology staff and his dreams of music soon disappeared under the heavy demands of statistics. Robert worked as a body router and held other positions as a staff member. ​

When Robert finished his staff contract he went into the printing business with a fellow Scientologist. Soon, the two were printing all of the magazines for Scientology Europe. This was profitable and allowed Robert to go up his Bridge and onto the OT levels. Robert figured out an ingenious solution that saved Scientology hundreds of thousands of dollars per year on costs related to getting its magazines delivered. But then there was a problem. ​

Robert solved it but he was nevertheless blamed for crashing all of Scientology's stats on the European Continent. Robert was sent to Flag for brutal sec checking. In this podcast Robert describes the terror of being sec checked by then Inspector General RTC Marty Rathbun. These sec checks had a brutal and expensive outcome. Coupled with Robert's inner torment with having to constantly pretend to others that he was an OT ate him up inside. Robert describes the events that led to he and his family leaving Scientology. He offers sage advice to those who are still trapped in Scientology and want to leave.​[

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Re: Discussion of Abuses and Punishments in Radical Scientology

Post by Wieber » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:00 pm

Notice how the next step after joining staff with Scientology is often utter humiliation. That's not an accident and it's not due to local misinterpretation of policy. It's directed from the highest level and it is a common cult attribute. As for "duplicating the tech," you can't. If Hubbard ever revealed his real intent behind the various actions everyone would see they were being had and leave. You have to read between the lines.
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