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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:28 pm

Laura DeCrescenzo has been in litigation with the Church for years.
Kudos to Laura for hanging on in there.
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This is a girl who swallowed BLEACH to get out of the mind control "Rehabilitation Project Force" designed to make you rethink your "enemy lines" or thoughts which do not align with Management and Miscavige.

She was pressured to have an Abortion, just one girl of literally thousands who suffered wholesale baby slaughter for 25 years.

The "Church" in their continuous lying propaganda LIE they actually enforced these abortions !



The reality of coerced abortions

In 1997, in response to the high volume of Scientology staff sent to have abortions, the head of Planned Parenthood in Riverside, CA (Janet Honn-Alex) said, "I just felt that it was strange that they would all make the same decision. Independent of their individual circumstances, they had all made the decision to have an abortion, no matter how old they were or how many children they already had. We found that almost unbelievable. And when we started asking more questions, in order to find out their individual motives, because we were suspicious, they stopped coming to us altogether."



A Major development where Laura waived Priest/Penitent privilege and the Judge ordered her to turn over her pc folders.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by J. Swift » Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:33 am

The legal work Tony Ortega posted in the De Crescenzo case is well worth reading to see how Cult attorneys are working this case.

The Cult of Scientology will never produce a single document until and unless it is compelled to do so by a court of law, or by search warrant as happened in Operation Snow White.

The Cult of Scientology argued that all 2,891 of its documents pertaining to Laura De Crescenzo are privileged! Not even the US Government does that in lawsuits. What is the Church trying so hard to hide? Or is David Miscavige in "fullblown restim" over the Lisa McPherson case?

The Cult of Scientology wants to take everything from its members and does not want to ever give anything back! Scientology has always played for keeps!

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:48 am

I have NEVER seen this before.

The judge orders release of the confessional folders !

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The Church as a rule fight tooth and nail to not give up their confessional folders
Good on ya Laura !

Jason Beghe wants his folders as well.....

Laura says there are 140 folders of confessionals !
Good Grief.
She was in the Sea Org at 12 years old and has 140 folders of CRIMES ?

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Demented LRH » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:35 pm

How many fucking confessional folders a Scientologist could have?
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by J. Swift » Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:09 pm

Demented LRH wrote:How many fucking confessional folders a Scientologist could have?
The answer is none because the Church owns them all.

The question is really, "How many fucking confessional folders a Scientologist could have that the Church owns?" Per contracts Scientologists sign, the Church owns all folders. I have known people who have had very tall stacks of folders.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:08 pm

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Jason tells his now familiar story of shocking internal abuse on Mike Rinder's new blog.

http://www.mikerindersblog.org/jason-ba ... ike-it-is/

It is long, but so worth the read because he only fled MONTHS ago. Present time accuracy.


I met Jason at a party and he mentioned to me that he was SLUGGED (assault and battery) every single day by his senior.
Everyday, everyday, everyday.
His senior would not speak to him just come from the back and *wallop* his head.

501C 3 exemption to ABUSE, assault, attack and physically batter a junior.
It has been exported from INT Base to lower orgs.

His breathtaking escape next....

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by bubbler » Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:11 am

Yikes.
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I have been following and reading about scientology for a long time but this is one of the more insane pieces I have ever come across. Despite my familiarity with the subject, having never been "in" there are still things I don't understand...
"The current SO members, at least in the CLO, are miserable."
CLO?
"My mom was on the level during this time..."
On the level?
"...not allowed to see chiropractors since that was obviously 'Another Practice'"
Another Practice?
"WQSB"
Huh?
"Ser-facing"
The author explains this means "just trying to make others wrong" but where does this term come from?
Once again, Karen #1, thank you for posting.

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Wieber » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:39 am

bubbler wrote:Yikes.
:shock:
I have been following and reading about scientology for a long time but this is one of the more insane pieces I have ever come across. Despite my familiarity with the subject, having never been "in" there are still things I don't understand...
"The current SO members, at least in the CLO, are miserable."
CLO?
"My mom was on the level during this time..."
On the level?
"...not allowed to see chiropractors since that was obviously 'Another Practice'"
Another Practice?
"WQSB"
Huh?
"Ser-facing"
The author explains this means "just trying to make others wrong" but where does this term come from?
Once again, Karen #1, thank you for posting.
CLO -- Continental Liaison Office (Sorry I don't know where that is or who is involved. I think it's where the orders to lower orgs comes from.)

On the level -- The levels are levels zero to five in auditing below clear. There is a level six, which used to be level five but they made Dianetic Case Completion level five. Above clear there are the OT levels. So, in Scientology, "on the level" does not mean true. It means someone is doing one of the levels in auditing.

Another Practice -- This was not so prevalent when I was in, but Hubbard and Scientology went all encompassing after I left. They went into nutrition, purification, and other fields. Hubbard's writings and technology are the true and only true way. Everything else is another practice and, as far as Hubbard and Scientology is concerned, it doesn't work.

WQSB -- This is new to me. Fortunately Marc Headley has a page with a glossary of terms.
http://blownforgood.com/?page_id=39
Here is his definition for this:

WQSB – Watch Quarter Station Bill. This is a large chart that is located in Sea Orgs that lists out where each person lives, what their cleaning station is, whether they are on port or starboard watch, and any number of other details about the person.

Ser facing: This is pronounced with a hard "c" or "ser facking." Bear with me here as I try to explain this.

Remember I talked about levels? Level 4 or Grade 4 is called "ability release" and it deal with "service facsimiles." A "facsimile" is like an engram. It is a copy of something that happened with a person. This is how it's defined in Scientology. I'm not saying this stuff is true. A service facsimile is something the person being audited holds in place, which they use to make themselves right by making others wrong. So someone who is ser facing is making their self right by making others wrong.

(Oddly enough, when I was involved with Scientology, the people I most observed to do that kind of thing were people who had recently completed level 4 or recently completed OT 3.)

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by bubbler » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:53 am

Thank you, Wieber.
And good luck, Jason, wherever you may be (at).

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:04 am



There is a slang in the Church which Jason uses a lot about his Mom in the above post.
"On the level" is Church slang meaning you are "On OT VII"
There is further implication here.

"On the level" means you report to FSO to give up your CRIMES every 6 months, it means you pay Flag Land base approx $30,000 a year to stay
ON the level.

It means you have your so called ELIGIBILITY for more Spiritual Freedom !

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*I’ve seen many heart breaking SO reg cycles where married couples were ruthlessly torn apart because one or the other ‘wasn’t qualified for the SO’.




*There weren’t many ‘Direct’ KR’s, usually KRs written in CLO were CC’d to 10-20 other people – who would often demand answers and even conditions assigned before the full data, or even your response, was available.




The "Church" of Scientology could also be called the "Church" of Snitch ology where everyone gets to rat on everyone else. Wives rat on husbands. Children rat on their parents. Parents snitch on their children Everyone reports to RTC "Religious Technology center" and gets to tell it in writing under the title of "Knowledge Report." In fact you can *GOSSIP* and *RUMOR MONGER* all you want, as long as you put it in writing to RTC and name it "Knowledge Report."

A tactic used in recent years is to cc (Carbon Copy) like Jason says, 10 other people, so it starts a campaign of a gang being reported to..... It is a life of Sea Org reporting on Sea Org, snitching and ratting out each other and RTC happily files all the reports so it can use juicy tit bits publicly on your Suppressive Person declare when you finally blow....

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:15 am

The glamor and glitter of the "Ideal orgs" for media and photo ops, and then there's the reality and actuality of the living conditions of Sea Org members which is quite abusive.


A former OSA REP of Phoenix Org posted this today ~~ He was the
DSA Phoenix. Means "Department of Special Affairs = DSA"

See the pretty blue paint ? See the pretty nice white windows ?
Read the standard of living inside ~~
Note: It might be cleaner, but they are sandwiched together on a bunk bed, as much as 40 to a room.


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I found the berthing and conditions in LA to be terrible. Maybe it was my state of mind at the time, but I don’t know how SO members can live like that. I read it has improved, but at that time I was in a room with probably 15 people. There were cockroaches and the bathrooms didn’t work. When I arrived I pulled back the blanket on my bed and cockroaches scurried. They said it was because the last guy in that bunk was “out ethics”.

It was the old hospital building and it just was not built to handle that many people. Shower were shared by seemingly thousands of people. Pubic hairs covered the bathroom floor like shag carpet. Of three toilets one worked and the others overflowed when used and were left unhandled with “out of order” signs.


Jason Barclay in his write up posted on Mike Rinder's blog yesterday covered a lot of violations...
http://www.mikerindersblog.org/jason-ba ... ike-it-is/

Jason had mentioned to me that the City of Los Angeles could shut down Big Blue for numerous violations just like that....

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Post by Karen#1 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:58 am

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Bruce Wiseman is the figurehead of CCHR Western US.
Bruce Wiseman is a medal of Valor Winner.
Bruce Wiseman is an OT VIII


Someone leaked to me ~~
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From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: 3/21/2013 9:50:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: Bruce Wiseman's briefing at the Fraser Mansion.



Bruce Wiseman, IAS Freedom Medal Winner and President of CCHR US, was in town last week making Congressional visits.
He then gave a briefing last Friday night at the National Affairs Office. Below is a data summary from the briefing.

raw data:
number of pro-psych bills being pushed through Congress at this time - highest ever (at least 5)
law suits against big pharma has triggered massive shut downs of psych research centers world wide - dozens
state level mental health funding chopped by recent financial sequester
psych funding terminated from Blue Cross Blue Shield in Florida

police state detail:
a new government program now being implemented - teams of government psychologists will patrol airports, concerts and sports events with police dogs.
They are trained to seek out terrorists that are identified by "micro facial expressions".
funding for thousands of unmanned drones to be used by law enforcement in this country


PR
number of black PR hits against Scientology - rising drastically

conclusion:
The enemy is now on death ground; this is a concept from the book The Art of War by Sun-tzu. It describes soldiers in battle, who when surrounded and facing imminent death become empowered and ferocious as they desperately fight for their lives. And that this is a war that will not have a treaty with concessions exchanged between sides. One party will be left standing in the end. And that the end is not so far off.

So in 2013 we are stepping into a year of unprecedented expansion coupled with powerful new technical releases that will shake the timbers and send the screaming squirrels around the bend. And just for a sprinkle of randomity our arch enemy is on death ground mounting their final charge.


Get the picture?

As our VM Tent is particularly visible, accessible and vulnerable, I am sending this out to a select group of VMs, particularly, Clears, OTs and other competent Scientologists
so that you may assume responsibility for this situation. But the truly positive and exciting side to all this is that with the new TV and Internet ads bringing 1 million visits a week to the Scientology web site, so the traffic at the tent will be out the roof.

The tent goes out every Sunday starting March 31st. On Sunday the 24th we are having a planning and coordination meeting at the Fraser Mansion at 10 AM.
I look forward to seeing you there.

XXXXXXXXX

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Don Carlo » Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:40 pm

1941 Bruce D. Wiseman, does business and financial management at Wiseman & Burke, in http://www.wiseman-burke.com/ . Former president of CCHR. Wiseman & Burke got a Desist and Refrain Order from the state of Calif. for selling overseas tax avoidance advice without being registered, see Learn to Evade Tax at the Scientology Chapel ,Sept. 25, 2012 by Marty Rathbun at http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2012/0 ... gy-chapel/ . Bruce has social-media links to many Scientologists, and demanded his Facebook friends unfriend and disconnect from Placido Domingo, Jr., http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninsca ... omingo.php . Interviewed by Anderson Cooper in 2011, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kIDLG-hjK8 . Birth year for Bruce and wife Barbara from ancestry.com showing the couple at the same address.
----- son and actor 1967 Michael R. Wiseman (Planet of the Apes) from 1st marriage to Susan E. Smart. Karen de la Carriere confirmed that this Michael is the Hollywood actor. Barbara Wiseman named her stepson Michael http://www.our-home.org/barbarawiseman/myself.htm . Michael has completions. Kendra sadly included her brother among family that disconnected from her years ago, in her exscientologykids page, http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.p ... ITE-LAUNCH
----- 2nd wife wife 1941 Barbara Lucille Carr Wiseman, President of The Earth Organization,http://www.linkedin.com/pub/barbara-wiseman/5/427/631
----- ----- brother in law 1947 Clark Carr, President of Narconon International, was "recently" in a deposition for a Georgia Narconon lawsuit, http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/nar ... orm/nWpHD/
----- business partner 1950 Kevin J. Burke
----- some reconcilation with ex-Scientologist daughter Kendra Carr Wiseman

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:17 am

This posting belongs better on an Indie group.
However, I am aware of many lurkers on OCMB that connect back to those still in, so I am crossposting it here.
Eileen Clark 30 year Sea Org member is dying.
As a declared SP, her friends are the Indies.
She wants to say farewell to those listed below.
If you have any connections to these folk, please send this post on.

(Joe Hochman and Debbie Cook have already been sent the information.)


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Clark is under hospice care in a hospital in Gardnerville,NV. She is preparing to go at any time. Lisa Holt Hamilton and some of Eileen’s other friends are with her full time. I have been giving her assists for some time and we talk several times a day.

Lisa has posted this information on her Facebook site so that Eileen’s friends can send her farewell messages. Eileen knew and loved many people, but there were some she was not able to contact. Among the people Eileen would like to know about her circumstances are Steve Kemper, Inci Paulson, Steve Olson, Erica Udvardi, Darleen Castle, Joe and Annette Hochman and Debbie Cook Baumgartner. If any of you have comm lines to these people, then please pass this on.

Lisa and I are forwarding all messages to Eileen and she feels blessed to have known all of you. She is not able to handle many phone calls, but if you send me a private email, I will arrange it so you can reach her when she is awake.

Eileen spent more than 30 years in the Sea Org and is proudest of the fact that she was able to help people who experienced injustices from the church.

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