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Freewinds (cult ship) Hides Info about presence of Asbestos

Post by Sponge » Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:27 pm

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Freewinds Hides Info about presence of Asbestos

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WILLEMSTAD: During refurbishing and reparatory work, which involved removing the ceiling and panelling on cruise ship Freewinds, blue asbestos was released and ended up in the ventilation system.

Freewinds' captain did not report this when it's own personnel were working on the ship on the Mathey warf in Otrobanda. The Curacao Drydock Company (CDM), where the ship was taken for reparatory work on the hull, heard from the surveyor that there may be asbestos on the ship. The captain acknowledged the incident and said that after the incident Freewinds had some investigation done. Keeping the incident quiet became more noticeable when it turned out that the 40-year-old ship contatined blue asbestos.

The question is whether or not the blue asbestos dust, which can cause cancer, can be removed from the ship. The CDM has stopped all work on the ship. The ship was sealed and isolated and experts will investigate and measure the presence of asbestos dust in the hull and surrounding areas. Commissioners Eugene Rhuggenaath (Economic Affairs) and Humphrey Davelaar (Public Health) said on Friday.

CDM interim director Frank Esser, deputy head of the Department of Labour Affairs Christiene van der Biezen were accompanied by two inspectors and head of the health Department Tico Ras. Samples taken from the panelling last week by inspectors that were sent to the Netherlands showed that they contained significant amounts of blue asbestos. After an extraordinary meeting, the Executive Council decided to inform the public in general about the incident to avoid remours and panic.

The CDM personnel were also informed via the media because it was impossible to gather all the workers Friday evening to personally give them the information
Wikipedia article on the MV Freewinds:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freewinds

Comments and discussions here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=287791
and on Clambake here...
viewtopic.php?t=27173
viewtopic.php?t=27298
viewtopic.php?t=27201
viewtopic.php?t=27289
and here on wwp (old enturbulation.org links revised)...
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-break ... med-11658/
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-break ... nds-13296/
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/123-leak ... kers-27394
Reports and analysis, ongoing, from Arnie Lerma...
http://www.lermanet.com/exit/freewinds.htm
Interesting info on Dutch Antilles, the region where MV Freewinds operates:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americ ... 547635.stm

News media links, more as they come in:
Glosslip Exclusive: Scientology Cruise Ship Freewinds Hides Asbestos Danger
http://glosslip.com/2008/04/29/glosslip ... os-danger/
Scientology's Party Boat Docked Due to Asbestos
http://gawker.com/385646/scientologys-p ... o-asbestos
Scientology Yacht Sealed and Docked in Curacao
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-17221
Cancer on the Lido Deck: Scientology Cruise Ship Rife with Asbestos?
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2 ... cruise.php
Cancer on the Lido Deck? Scientology Responds
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/ ... cruise.php
Cancer on the Lido Deck: Something's Fishy on the S.S. Scientology
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2 ... entolo.php
Update On The FreeWinds Asbestos Death Cruise, Scientology Reps Respond
http://glosslip.com/2008/05/01/update-o ... s-respond/
Scientologists Exposed to Blue Asbestos—for 21 Years
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/ar ... estos.html
Curacao Dry dock Company: Scientology's Cruise Ship Sealed Due To Asbestos Danger
http://insurancenewsnet.com/article.asp ... 0d60868fe7
All Aboard The Scientology Cruise, Where Cancer And Purity Go Hand In Hand
http://defamer.com/386655/all-aboard-th ... nd-in-hand

May 6th Updates: scroll down this post for more
Special team strips Freewinds of asbestos
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
(front page may change, currently you scroll down for this story).
Special team strips Freewinds of asbestos

WILLEMSTAD – A special team from the United States is working on removing the asbestos from the cruise ship Freewinds. The team is being supervised by an independent bureau from the Netherlands.

Head of Environmental Service, Tico Ras confirms the above, but doesn’t say much. The seriousness of asbestos being released during work is according to him ‘a matter of interpretation’. He nevertheless admits that readings are constantly being done that indicate the amount of asbestos, but that he does not know what the results of the readings are, and that he is busy finishing up a report.

It is in any case safe around the ship in the dry-dock. The Environmental Service is also supervising the removing of the asbestos and is making sure that this is done according to the rules. The asbestos is taken to the landfill of Selikor that has a special dump place for this. [ Link: http://www.selikor.com/home.html ]

Freewinds promised last week to give an official declaration, which they didn’t. Harbour captain Ludwig Alpes is now referring everybody to the dock company (CDM) for comments. PR-director Karin Pouw of Scientology in Los Angeles gave a reaction on the internet: “The Freewinds on a regular basis checks the air quality on board of the ship and always meets the American standards. Inspections on April 15 and 28 confirm that the air quality is safe, in accordance with the standards of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration and US Clean Air Act.”

The Freewinds is undergoing a complete touchup in the dry dock. All the cabins and other accommodations are being upgraded. To comply with the tight maritime rules that become effective in 2010, also the navigation- and safety equipment is being replaced. “The true and accurate story is that the Freewinds is being restored to better than new.” The restoration is on schedule.

CDM-director Frank Esser indicated last week that the ship had till yesterday to be in dry-docking. Aside from the disputable exceeding of the asbestos standards in the air, the CDM–director blamed the Freewinds for not complying with the different procedures. A ship in dry-dock that is going to work on asbestos is required to do this with qualified people.
Asbestos scare seals off Scientology cruiseship
http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/news/asbes ... 179954.htm
SomebodyElse wrote:Maritime news now reporting. Supposedly this is a biggy. Article copied here as the site requires registration.
Asbestos scare seals off Scientology cruiseship
Refurbishment work is suspended on ship used as a spiritual retreat

Rainbow Nelson - Wednesday 7 May 2008

A PANAMA-flagged cruiseship used by the Church of Scientology as its ultimate spiritual retreat remains sealed after a health scare forced refurbishment of the vessel being carried out by Curaçao Drydock Co to be suspended.

Work on the vessel’s interior was halted on Freewinds 10 days ago after health inspectors from the government of the island of Curaçao said they had found traces of blue asbestos aboard the 1968-built vessel.

The Det Norske Veritas-classed vessel was undergoing a refit, including renovations of all cabins and accommodations facilities, as well as upgrading navigational and nautical safety equipment to meet maritime codes scheduled for implementation in 2010.

Panama-based San Donato Properties is the registered owner, with Majestic Cruise Line listed as the beneficial owner. Both are controlled by the international arm of the Church of Scientology.

Curaçao Drydock’s interim director Frank Esser and the head of Curaçao’s department of labour affairs, Christiene van der Biezen, were accompanied on an inspection of the vessel on April 25 by two inspectors and the head of the local health department, Tico Ras.

Refurbishment work was suspended following the inspection and a ‘clean-up’ team contracted to remove traces of the carcinogenic substance over the holiday weekend.

Until the air safety levels return to normal, the vessel will remain sealed to workers of the state-owned shiprepair specialist, said an expert at the local health authority.

A decision on whether to allow work to continue will be taken upon the arrival of flag state inspectors and further inspections by experts from the Netherlands, said the health authority expert.

He said there was no risk that passengers would have come into contact with the toxic dust as it was released during the refurbishment works.

The Panama Maritime Authority said it will be sending technical representatives this week to plot a course of action with DNV and the ship’s owner.

“We are sending someone so that they can tell us what happened, where it came from, since when it has been there,” said Panama Maritime Authority’s director of merchant marine Alfonso Castillero. “What is required is to repair the problem immediately and later, when the technical surveyor in charge gives me the answers to these questions, Panama will take any action that merits with class or the ship.”

A director at Curaçao Drydock said the ship was scheduled to leave the drydock some time this week.

Freewinds has operated as an exclusive retreat for the Church of Scientology since 1988.

The Church of Scientology Flag Ship Service Organisation uses the vessel as a spiritual retreat for the most dedicated followers of the controversial religion. It is the only place where Scientologists can reach Operating Thetan VIII, the highest level attainable in the religion.

Other religious programs are conducted aboard, including religious conventions and seminars for staff and parishioners of churches of Scientology from around the world.

The ship has used Curaçao as its homeport since it was acquired and upgraded for use by the Church in the late 1980s.

A spokesperson for the church in Los Angeles told Lloyd’s List that it was reviewing the situation.

In an earlier statement published on the internet, the Church of Scientology’s director of public affairs, Karin Pouw, said: “The Freewinds regularly inspects the air quality on board and always meets or exceeds US standards.

“Inspections done on April 15, 2008 and April 28, 2008 again confirmed that the air quality is safe, in accordance with the standards set by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration and the US Clean Air Act.

“Freewinds is being restored to better than new condition and no expense has ever been spared in meeting the highest safety standards of any seagoing vessel,” the statement continued. “The Freewinds will be completing its refit on schedule.”
http://www.lloydslist.com/ll/news/asbes ... 179954.htm
Cancer on the Lido Deck: Clean Team Enters Scientology's S.S. Asbestos
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2 ... om-the.php
How's this for a Scientology horror story?
http://www.thesop.org/index.php?id=11109
TOM PUT ON CRUISE ALERT
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/37 ... ise-alert/
Tom Cruise put on alert after Scientology ship's asbestos scare
http://www.newkerala.com/one.php?action ... s&id=58742
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/ent ... 47530.html
August> updates
Scientology Cult Exposes Foreign Workers to Deadly Carcinogen
indybay.org Aug 27th, 2008
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/0 ... 530478.php
( shortnews version: http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=73033 )
Mesothelioma a Concern for Workers Who Completed Repairs on Scientology Cruise Ship
asbestos.com 3rd September 2008
http://news.asbestos.com/2008/09/03/mes ... uise-ship/
similar article to above..
Workers On Scientology Cruise Ship Worried About Asbestos Exposure
Mesothelioma & Asbestos Awareness Center September 4th, 2008
http://www.maacenter.org/news/workers-o ... osure.html

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Radio/TV media events:
Glosslip Radio: Astra and Lawrence Woodcraft,
Monday, May 5th, 9:00pm EDT

http://glosslip.com/2008/05/05/glosslip ... 900pm-edt/
This will be the direct link to the show and will be available for download if you missed it....
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/stations/b ... -Your-Ears

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For Press, fact-checking:
Here’s the contact info for the company who quarantined the boat:
Curaçao Drydock Company, Inc.
Dokweg 1, Koningsplein, P.O. Box 3012,
Curaçao, Netherlands Antilles
Telephone: +(5999)-733-0000
Fax: +(5999)-736-5580
E-mail: info@cdmnv.com
Website: http://www.cdmnv.com
General Manager: Wouter Van Steijn
Commercial Manager: F. Edgar Wanga
Production Manager: Manuel Bequer
Human Resource Manager: Jurgen Rodrigues
Financial Manager: Geert Ottenheim

The company that carried out this and previous structural engineering work on the freewinds:
Nordica Engineering: http://www.nordicaeng.com/
The company that does the fittings and furnishings:
"Tinstad Snickeri & Inredning" (Tinstad Carpenty & Furnishings)
http://www.tsiab.se/kontakta-oss.asp


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Info on Asbestosis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestosis
http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/articles/ar ... ticleID=35
Asbestos.com on Marine asbestos problems:
http://www.asbestos.com/products/genera ... panels.php

Other Environmental/Health Abuses by Scientology ship Freewinds:
Dumping waste on the island of Bonaire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AJNukeykjc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztsJi4WlEVs

DECLARATION OF LAWRENCE WOODCRAFT 2001
(Architect who worked on the Freewinds)
http://www.lermanet.com/scientology/Law ... bestos.htm
XenuTV Video Interview & Transcript with L.Woodcraft about the Freewinds:
http://www.xenutv.com/interviews/freewinds-1.htm

Did you or do you know anyone who visited the Freewinds Ship?
Maybe they'd like to be made aware of this health timebomb. Maybe they are suffering already and don't know why.
Freewinds Scientology Service completions.....
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/fw/

http://www.al.com/specialreport/mobiler ... stosis.jpg
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Post by NattyP » Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:37 pm

Whoopideef@ckin'doo!

With the Freewinds sealed and in drydock, yet another avenue of funding to the "c" o' $ is cut off.

How many cruise fares will they have to refund?

Thank GOD someone finally is doing something about the cancer cruise ship.
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Post by touchstone » Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:53 pm

Huge news is huge. (Did I 'meme' that like the kids do these days?)
Independent confirmation like this is immensely welcome.
Another revenue stream dried up unless it becomes like the Sooper Powerz building: "Donate to our white elephant build/repair fund. Don't expect any actual results, since we're diverting the funds elsewhere..." The lives being saved from the truth getting out is the caek-- the cost to the cult is the icing.

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Post by brownjedi » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:10 pm

That is huge. Not only is this a revenue stream that will be cut off for a while, if not forever, but this needs to be disseminated to anybody who has been on that ship of death either as a passenger or crew.

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Post by PTS » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:13 pm

Does this mean that all Freewinds Courses will now be held at FLAG Clearwater Fl.?
I see opportunity here.

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Post by Bea Kiddo » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:17 pm

I am wondering about the corelation of this with OTs dying of cancer? Could there be?

I have lost too many friends to cancer, all while in the SO.

I am not sure if they have been to the ship, and, if so, for how long.

I wonder if there is any connection.

I am not trying to start a conspiracy. I am just curious if there may be something to this or not....

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Post by Don Carlo » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:51 pm

It can take 10 or 20 years for asbestos fibers to cause cancer. It is more likely if the person is already a smoker. I frequently see lawyer ads for mesothelioma (the cancer caused by asbestos in the lungs). Just Google mesothelioma and lawyer to find a lawyer.

If you signed a pledge not to sue CoS, that pledge is invalid, since they reneged on their side of the deal, too. If the pledge was part of the staff contract, then it's really invalid, since the whole contract is one big illegal exploitation scam.

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Post by Sponge » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:06 pm

Don Carlo wrote:It can take 10 or 20 years for asbestos fibers to cause cancer. It is more likely if the person is already a smoker. I frequently see lawyer ads for mesothelioma (the cancer caused by asbestos in the lungs). Just Google mesothelioma and lawyer to find a lawyer.

If you signed a pledge not to sue CoS, that pledge is invalid, since they reneged on their side of the deal, too. If the pledge was part of the staff contract, then it's really invalid, since the whole contract is one big illegal exploitation scam.
There are firms falling over themselves to assist you in making a claim in this area because the rewards are huge and the litigation path is well trodden.

Like you say though, the symptoms can take decades to develop.
If the cult, as we predict, falls apart long before then it shouldn't matter providing that the insurance company is still around (and insurance companies for shipping do tend to stick around for a long time).

As regards the fate of the Freewinds right now, well, for sure it should be taken out into deep ocean and sunk. Its the only way to be sure and it would be safer and cheaper than trying to fix it.

How is Admiral Miscavige going to save face on this, his flagship, being condemned? Watch out for a new regging campaign to buy a new ship.

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Post by Don Carlo » Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:51 pm

I believe the person would need proof of having mesothelioma, plus being on the Freewinds, plus proof of the existence of the asbestos, plus proof that CoS execs were aware that the asbestos could never be fully sealed off, plus evidence that the person didn't get asbestos contamination from another job or building.

CoS would probably try to settle to avoid bad public relations. If the ex-Scientologist refused to settle, and went to court, they could subpoena Miscavige and other inner circle people.
Travolta and Cruise have been on the Freewinds, so the press would have a field day. Travolta smokes or has smoked in the past, so he is especially at risk. This is ironic since Kelly Preston is so fanatical about carpet cleaners and taking your shoes off before coming in the house. Travolta may have brought fibers back in his suitcase.

I hope any ex-CoS member who sailed on the Freewinds and has breathing problems gets tested for mesothelioma. Then they could at least try for a settlement to pay their medical bills.

Mesothelioma is a dreadful disease and is directly tied to asbestos. My own relatives must have gone on the Freewinds and are at risk. Of course, I can't tell them this. I'm disconnected.

It would be really creepy if some of the people on the RPF had mesothelioma and CoS is holding them there until they die.

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Post by Sponge » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:08 pm

Thanks to Kristi Wachter's independent service completions database, taken from actual scientology publications, we have a very accessible and indestructable source of who and when.
www.truthaboutscientology.com
http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/fw/

(I'm also updating links in the top post by the way)

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Post by Don Carlo » Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:44 pm

That's excellent proof the person was on the asbestos-leaking Freewinds. Wouldn't it be ironic if Freedom Magazine was Exhibit A in a multi-million dollar class-action suit against CoS?

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Post by Sponge » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:45 pm

Scientology's Party Boat Docked Due to Asbestos
http://gawker.com/385646/scientologys-p ... o-asbestos

Scientology Yacht Sealed and Docked in Curacao
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-17221

Cancer on the Lido Deck: Scientology Cruise Ship Rife with Asbestos?
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2 ... cruise.php

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Post by Sponge » Thu May 01, 2008 5:18 pm

Cancer on the Lido Deck? Scientology Responds
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2008/ ... cruise.php

Update On The FreeWinds Asbestos Death Cruise, Scientology Reps Respond
http://glosslip.com/2008/05/01/update-o ... s-respond/

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Post by Bea Kiddo » Thu May 01, 2008 6:00 pm

Looks like they have expanded Karen Pouw's vocabulary beyond "categorically denied".

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Post by fowimu » Thu May 01, 2008 6:24 pm

How could we go about getting CNN or FOX news to pick up this story?

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