Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

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Re: Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

Post by Sponge » Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:56 pm

Thank you so much.

[deleted reference to faulty subtitles - now fixed]

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Re: Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

Post by daisy » Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:17 pm

Excellent investigation. Thank you so much for the translation.

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Re: Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

Post by sekh » Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:48 pm

Merci beaucoup, mnql1. Thank you very much.
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Re: Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

Post by tamasin-sp » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:32 am

Fabulous expose in Quebec, even though I was not able to get the last one's sub titles.

Excellent work mnql1.
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Re: Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

Post by Sponge » Fri Mar 04, 2011 4:22 am

tamasin-sp wrote:Fabulous expose in Quebec, even though I was not able to get the last one's sub titles.

Excellent work mnql1.
If you click the button on the very bottom far right of the youtube video display window (the button with the four arrows pointing outwards from each other) then it will go full screen. If you have a normal aspect monitor then you should then see the subtitles but if you have a widescreen one then I think it is still the same problem. Apparently a fixed version is going to be put up later.
*Edit - now fixed.

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Re: Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

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Re: Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

Post by mnql1 » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:19 pm

On Friday, March 11, 2011, JE will present a report on Applied Scholastics and Scientology. Work on English subtitles will begin immediately afterward.

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Re: Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

Post by Benny's Friend » Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:01 pm

mnql1 wrote:On Friday, March 11, 2011, JE will present a report on Applied Scholastics and Scientology. Work on English subtitles will begin immediately afterward.
Great news, M! Looking forward to it!
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Re: Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

Post by sekh » Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:53 pm

Fabulous!
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Re: Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

Post by Sponge » Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:52 am

More from Quebec TV news media....

Scientology: V — «Dumont»: l'Église de scientologie au Québec (with English subtitles)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzI8Elg1ePU
Date of broadcast: February 24th

also ref: http://forums.whyweprotest.net/threads/ ... bec.77612/

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Re: Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

Post by skeptic2girl » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:24 am

mnql1 (and Anubis?),

Thank you so VERY much for translating all of this! Such a big job! We all appreciate it...
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Re: Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

Post by mnql1 » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:42 am

Translation of a French article posted on March 10, 2011 on the website of the Montreal daily, Le Journal de Montréal:
http://lejournaldemontreal.canoe.ca/jou ... 22156.html
Homework Help for Schoolchildren or Scientology Courses?

by Michel Jean
Agence QMI
March 10, 2011

MONTREAL - The homework help program at the Académie Phénix in Longueuil offers more than academic support to schoolchildren. According to an investigation by the TVA network's JE program, the center and its director, Gilles Léonard, claim they can resolve attention deficit problems without resorting to Ritalin, thanks to the teaching methods of "Applied Scholastics", which were developed by the founder of the Church of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard.

Equipped with a hidden camera, the JE team visited the Académie Phénix with a seven-year-old girl, complaining about problems related to concentration and motivation, two symptoms of attention deficit disorder that affect a growing number of schoolchildren in Quebec and often require the prescription of Ritalin. "When your mind goes blank," said Léonard, "Schools call it attention deficit. Here, we don't say that. We talk about words that are not understood. And these words, we find them."

He says that the accumulation of misunderstood words provokes confusion in children, thus causing an attention deficit. By clarifying all the words, primarily using a dictionary to look up definitions, the "Applied Scholastics" method taught at the Académie promises to overcome the attention deficit.

"This is too simplistic to be credible," says Dr. Christiane Laberge. She is a general practitioner who works extensively with children who have an attention deficit disorder, and she does not mince words about Ron Hubbard's methods. "It doesn't work," she says categorically. "We need to use both recognized medication and psychoeducation to obtain valid results. If it were as simple as Hubbard claims, we would have it," she says, parodying a well-known advertisement for a hardware store.

Gilles Léonard says that "Applied Scholastics" is indeed a teaching technique developed by the founder of Scientology, but that it's not Scientology.

However, JE's investigation revealed that that the theory of misunderstood words is found in many Scientology publications. Alain Pronkin, a researcher at the Information Center on New Religions considers "Applied Scholastics" and Scientology as clearly one and the same.

"They are tied together," he says, "First of all, because of the author. And because 'Applied Scholastics' uses Scientology concepts. This is a tempting message for parents whose children have concentration problems. They will be tempted to try the Hubbard method before giving Ritalin to their children. And when they do that, they get pulled into the Scientology machine."

The ability to resolve psychiatric problems without medication is one of the grand claims made by the Church of Scientology, which denigrates psychiatry on every public platform. Education minister Lyne Beauchamp does not encourage parents to use "Applied Scholastics". On the contrary.

Though she says she can do nothing to prevent businesses such as Académie Phénix from offering their services, because homework help is not covered by her department, she believes that parents have other choices as far as homework help services are concerned. "This is not the type of organization that we support financially. We support organizations that have close ties with a school and parents should turn to them," said minister Beauchamp.

Quebec does not support Académie Phénix financially, but Ottawa grants it charitable status. As a result, donations are partly tax deductible. Académie Phénix thus benefits from tax advantages that help propagate the ideas of L. Ron Hubbard.

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Re: Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

Post by mnql1 » Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:06 am

Today (March 11, 2011), JE presented a report on Applied Scholastics that is summarized in the previous post. Subtitles are on the way.

Links to the video (French only) of the March 11 JE report can be found on the TVA website:
http://tva.canoe.ca/emissions/je/reportages/113051.html

JE reports that Federal Senator Céline Hervieux-Payette has formally requested that Ottawa and Quebec review the status of Church of Scientology. Spokespersons for Quebec's two opposition parties at the provincial level were interviewed on-camera and said they agree.

The Church of Scientology responded in English to the investigation into the Church of Scientology presented on the Feb. 25, 2011 edition of the JE program. The letter is signed by Gaetane Asselin. The line below her signature says "Church of Scientology of Scientology".

http://medias.tva.ca/2011/03/11/7636.pdf
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Re: Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

Post by anondelmundial » Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:20 am

Both parties agree? When was the last time that both parties agreed on anything?

This is potentially a HUGE win for opponents of Scientology.

Yet, what is the status of Quebec at the federal level? Does Quebec have any clout in Ottawa?

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Re: Hidden-camera investigation of Scientology in Quebec

Post by Sponge » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:05 am

mnql1 wrote:Today (March 11, 2011), JE presented a report on Applied Scholastics that is summarized in the previous post. Subtitles are on the way.

Links to the video (French only) of the March 11 JE report can be found on the TVA website:
http://tva.canoe.ca/emissions/je/reportages/113051.html

JE reports that Federal Senator Céline Hervieux-Payette has formally requested that Ottawa and Quebec review the status of Church of Scientology. Spokespersons for Quebec's two opposition parties at the provincial level were interviewed on-camera and said they agree.

The Church of Scientology responded in English to the investigation into the Church of Scientology presented on the Feb. 25, 2011 edition of the JE program. The letter is signed by Gaetane Asselin. The line below her signature says "Church of Scientology of Scientology".

http://medias.tva.ca/2011/03/11/7636.pdf
That subtitled follow-up report is now up....

Scientology — J.E: investigating Applied Scholastics (with English subtitles)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-ssSL4_nx0
(running time 13m30s)

Once again, thanks to the translators & video editors.

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