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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:59 am

It is interesting that a Dark Heart and Iron Fist can be so carefully hidden.
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As we read about the horror stories about the prison/detention center called "SP Hole", it must be highly embarrassing
to Tommy Davis to hear some of his outright lies, saying any old tripe to protect Miscavige.

No less than 40 Sea Org Members, many veterans will testify if any court of law as to the length and breath of the brutality
which the "church" justifies as "religious discipline."

Miscavige has been a violent batterer ever since he was a child.
It has been reported that his "communicator" Laurise follows him around with First Aid such as cotton swabs and medicine to heal skin punctures and bleeding in anticipation of having to do the mop up after his assaults.

Miscavige must have thought he could get away with it all his life. He more or less continued on beatings wholesale for 20 years and then Marc Headley's book "Blown for Good" blew the lid of the secrecy.

And why do people like Ray Mithoff, Marc Yager and Guillame Lesevre, Heber Jentzsch, Lyman Spurlock, tolerate such unconscionable conduct ?
The Stockholm syndrome is a term used to describe a paradoxical psychological phenomenon wherein hostages express adulation and have positive feelings towards their captors.

Overwhelmed by being taken hostage and held against will, often with beatings, torture and complete isolation, the perpetrator appears to have the power of GOD over the captive's life. The perpetrator keeps the captive totally dependent on him.

The captive sees the perpetrator as showing some degree of kindness. One good meal after a weak of virtual starvation, makes the captive think of how benevolent and kind his captor is !

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Wieber » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:53 am

An absence of conscience tends to closely resemble the presence of a clear conscience.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:36 am

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Kirsten Caetano, "External Security Chief" Office of Special Affairs International is back in SP Hole.

She merged after a stint at SP Hole a while back, 50 lbs thinner.

And there she is back again. I will not reveal why, or my leak will be traced.

Kirsten should stop being a go-to guy for Miscavige. Dangerous job.
The SP Hole is alive and well. Not even all the Internet reports on the sadism can get Miscavige to shut down his
punishment mind control operation.
But it will all come to an end.
The question is, will it end badly ?
(Ron Paul)



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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Wieber » Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:58 pm

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:48 am

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Medal of Valor bestowed by Taliban Radical Scientology !
Experts in Valor !

Interestingly some 3-4 "Medal of Valor" winners have exited the Church, even demanded refunds, post on Marty's blog and another Medal of Valor winner recently exited ~~
Wendy Honnor (Australian)

But maybe the saddest tale is of Dennis Clarke, an anti-psych crusader, former President of CCHR International and Medal of Valor Winner, who now lives penniless on the streets in Hawaii. A Hobo.

40 years in Scientology and Medal of Valor winner living on the streets, a true testament to the advanced spiritual beings Scientology Inc cracks up it produces....
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Later this evening, completion of "Stockholm Syndrome" posting.


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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Wieber » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:34 am

How much does one of those medals cost?

I'm not talking about it's material cost and how much it cost $cientology to have one made, though that would be interesting to know.

I'm talking about what kind of money a person involved in $cientology has to spend in donations and to do the project or projects that bring them the medal.

I suspect the shine a celebrity brings to it makes it easier for one of them to get a medal.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:50 am

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Above are Sea Org members who refused to become whipped subjugated victims..

In the middle is Ronnie Miscavige, (older brother of David Miscavige)
Ronnie is the father of Jenna Miscavige who's book "Beyond Belief" releases in Janurary.
Ronnie fled Int Base early 1990s.

To the left is Bill Dendui. He fled Int Base when security was a little more lax. He blew secretly and effectively.

To the right is my close dear friend Jefferson Hawkins who wrote the Book "Counterfeit Dreams," Jeff posts on this board occasionally.

So here's an example of the above 3 making it out. They were not going to live through the ABUSE, the degradation and incarceration.

It is a known fact that it takes a couple of years of "decompression" AFTER leaving the Sea Org to step out of the mind control and reverence to Miscavige that one has for so long considered "normal." For a while Sea Org members still believe he is a "good guy!" With all the clear cut evidence, there is a denial of what Miscavige is doing, what the Sea Org is perpetrating and it is all justified as "The Greatest Good."

It is almost difficult and tongue-tying for a former Sea org member to explain why they endured de-humanizing incidents and slowly and gradiently slid into a mind set that is so un-natural, so bizarre, that it appears from the outside looking in, that it was the ultimate in conditioning. By pain, by threat, by overwhelm, by force, by the ever looming RPF and RPFs RPF.

It's terribly difficult for people outside the SO domain to get a concept of life inside the camp when all they hear about is "ideal orgs", "expansion", and other out right lies about their glorious global increased activity and growth.

While pretending it is "The Road to Freedom" ~~ it is the dichotomy of any freedom. it is the ultimate TRAP.

People like Mike Rinder and Guillaume Lesevre and Marc Yager would come out of their abusive prison existence, don a tuxedo, speak to an audience and go right back to their prison existence with Oliver Twist slop for food.

David Miscavige has reduced anyone and everyone around him and below him to blithering idiots and yes man so that they could not challenge him. The Al Capone of Religious Leaders. The only ones who are "still there" are simply henchmen and and enablers.


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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:26 am

I have sometimes pondered on the fact that the biggest THUG, the most brutal, the most violent routinely rises to be TOP DOG.

It does seem unfair.
Example Muammar Gaddafi Of Libya. 41 years at the helm ! Even with Crimes against humanity known by one and all.
Example Stalin.
Example Mussolini.
Example Sadam Hussein as brutal as they come.
Al Capone, the mafia thug.

People with no conscience have a stunning advantage over those with conscience.
There's that famous quote of Al Capone, Chicago's sadistic prohibition gangster.
True to the mind set of a sociopath "I've done nothing wrong" mentality, Al Capone said
"I am going to St. Petersburg, Florida tomorrow. Let the worthy citizens of Chicago get their liquor the best they
can. I'm sick of the job ~~ it's a thankless one and full of grief. I've been spending the best years of my life as Public
Benefactor"


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At least the above characters did not pretend their were Religious
At least the above characters did not pose in Tuxedo/Fake Naval Uniforms while sales pitching for more $$$$
And pose for ribbon cutting ceremonies of new gawkish monstrosities impersonating "Ideal Churches"

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by mr_bad » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:29 pm

You'll hear people talk about Miscavige's "ethics presence." It's a blind reverence being paid to someone, who they think is a leader. Very few people spend any time around Miscavige.

I only met the guy one time. He barged into my office and he shouted at me, "Who are you, and what are you doing?"

Not knowing this was his standard greeting, It startled me. I was caught off guard.

I was brought up, when you meet someone, you shake their hand and look them in the eye. You say, "My name is ______, How are you?"

In other words, you are supposed to be polite, but this guy was a fucking asshole for no good reason. This was one of my biggest "wake up moments."

This was about the time when I started finding hiding places like this one on the roof of the Manor Hotel overlooking the city. I would go up there and smoke cigarettes by myself in a chair hidden around a corner and watch the traffic on the 101 and plan my escape.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:44 pm

THE NEW SCAM OF HOW THE CULT KEEPS THE MONEY


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The Cult trots out a Suppressive Person declare when you ask for money back.
It then claims you cannot get a Religious Donation back for Religious reasons !

Read more ~~ Tony Ortega explains the scam in depth

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If you received an SP declare when you asked for a refund, letters of complaint should be written to one's own Congressman and Senators,
The White House, the Department of Justice.
Also, send to Tony Ortega
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I welcome being ccd on all issues.

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Wieber » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:26 am

CVB = Claims Verification Board
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Wieber » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:32 am

So let me get this straight.

In $cientology everyone who pays for services is entitled to a refund upon request until such time as they ever make such a request.

Is that right?
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by El Jefe' » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:29 am

Just currious, in the USA, now that Scn "Donations" are tax deductable, if you get a refund is that now considered taxable income?

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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:27 am

Wieber wrote:So let me get this straight.

In $cientology everyone who pays for services is entitled to a refund upon request until such time as they ever make such a request.

Is that right?


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The IRS settlement and closing agreement was previously posted on OCMB.
Do you have time to look up the REFUND issue ?
I don't.
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Re: Discussion of Abuses at Int Base, Riverside

Post by Karen#1 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:45 am

Scientology Inc or Radical Taliban Scientology is almost always getting sued or suing someone else.
Scientology being litigious is an understatement.
Because Scientology is always at WAR in an adversarial position, it uses the Law Courts to play out many of its vendettas.
This is an image of Warren Mcshane.
30years+ go-to guy for Miscavige in legal.
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A U.S. District Court Memorandum of Decision in 1993, stated that Scientology Inc "have abused the federal court system by using it, inter alia, to destroy their opponents, rather than to resolve an actual dispute over trademark law or any other legal matter. This constitutes 'extraordinary, malicious, wanton, and oppressive conduct.' ... It is abundantly clear that plaintiffs sought to harass the individual defendants and destroy the church defendants through massive over-litigation and other highly questionable litigation tactics. The Special Master has never seen a more glaring example of bad faith litigation than this."[5] Rulings such as this have classified the Church of Scientology as a chronically vexatious litigant.

So today it was good to read that a Court is punishing Scientology Inc



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