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Scientology Aligns with the Nation of Islam

Post by J. Swift » Sun May 07, 2006 6:11 am

Scientology is aligning itself with The Nation of Islam. This is extremely strange considering that L. Ron Hubbard was a blatant racist. How does Tom Cruise fit into all of this?

Read this thread for more details.

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The dominoes have been falling quickly for Scientology in the past eighteen months as it buckles under the weight of the inept leadership of Mr. David Miscavige, the Supreme Dictator of the Scientology cult.

That MI:3 is tanking is a referendum not just on Tom Cruise but on all things Scientology. Global culture is repudiating Scientology due to its inhumanity, greed, and lies. The 56 year experiment in terror called Scientology is coming to an end. This has only served to make David Miscavige, the Supreme Dictator of Scientology, behave like a wounded animal that is cornered. He is becoming increasingly angry and violent. We read the stories that DM has physically attacked his staff and even beaten Mike Rinder.

In order to make progress somewhere, David Miscavige has aligned Scientology with The Nation of Islam and the Rev. Louis Farrakahn. Specifically, David Miscavige is providing the Nation of Islam with LRH study tech. DM said in the recent issue of Scientology News:
"They (The Nation of Islam) virtually invented black pride and black unity in the face of white discrimination, and they also adhere to a pretty high moral code and learning is all but sacred. But without LRH tech they can't realize it."
This is astonishing! DM stated that Nation of Islam members are incapable of learning anything without LRH study tech! Scientology News went on to say:
So that is why the World Literary Crusade, headed by IAS Freedom Medal winner Alfreddie Johnson, launched a pilot program to bring LRH study tech to 30 instructors at the Nation of Islam mosques, and now, by mandate from The Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, the WLC will deliver LRH tech to 50,000 members of their congregation in every mosque across America."
ref: Scientology News, Issue 33

Is The Nation of Islam using Scientology's terror techniques to further radicalize itself? What will Scientology really teach to 50,000 members of The Nation of Islam? This would be a huge story for any journalist to investigate. The Nation of Islam has refused to even reply to my written questions.

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Post by J. Swift » Sun May 07, 2006 6:29 am

This new relationship between Scientology and The Nation of Islam is remarkable given LRH's intense racism and hatred of Black people. How can David Miscavige look Rev. Farrakahan in the eye knowing that Scientology's "sacred scriptures" are full of LRH's racism? David Miscavige has never ordered LRH's racist screeds purged so one must assume that these racist comments do not bother Mr. Miscavige. If they did disturb Mr. Miscavige then why are they still in Scientology scripture? Mr. Miscavige has held absolute ecclesiastical power over Scientology since 1982 and he could have easily had these LRH racist comments removed, and yet he has not chosen to do so these past 24 years. In fact, these comments are still being printed by Scientology in modern editions and in recorded lectures. This is altogether strange considering that Mr. Miscavige has had much of LRH's orignal work deleted, edited, changed, altered, or otherwise squirreled. Why didn't DM purge Hubbard's racist words? And how will DM explain this to the Rev. Farrakahn after I make the Rev. Farrakahn aware of this matter?

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LRH said in a letter to his first wife Polly:
You shouldn't be scrubbing the floor on your hands and knees. Get yourself a nigger; that's what they're born for.
I wonder if the Rev. Louis Farrakahn knows of LRH's racist commentaries? We read at the website Scientology and Racism:
A basic component of the Church's services is auditing (counseling sessions). Through a progression of special auditing actions for specific purposes, called rundowns, Scientologists can advance their spiritual condition.

But Hubbard had a Big Auditing Problem with South African natives, who, along with other primitives and children, are in a "retrograded" state.
The South African native is probably the one impossible person to train in the entire world—he is probably impossible by any human standard.

-L. Ron Hubbard, PAB No. 119, 1 September 1957, as published in Level 0 PABS (c.1968, The American St. Hill Organization)
Hubbard also found the "insanity rate per capita in South Africa is appalling" and issued a special set of instructions, The Scientific Treatment of the Insane, to South African auditors to address the problem. Note that Hubbard also thinks the Bantu are in need of "rehabilitation", with mental health being only one of the necessary efforts.
…it is easily seen that a primary requisite in any program of the rehabilitation of the Bantu in South Africa would be mental health…

-L. Ron Hubbard, HCOB April 1960, "The Scientific Treatment of the Insane"
The South African Rundown, the only Scientology rundown offsite targeted at a specific ethnic group, was developed for "delivery to South Africans—those who reside in South Africa as well as those who have emigrated to other parts of the world". Hubbard apparently felt they required special processing because they were "untrainable" and "insane".

The Church's auditing tool, the E-meter, requires adjustment in order to accommodate the needle's larger movements because of the intensity of a Bantu's undisclosed transgressions ("withholds").
A "black South African's" withholds read not only on the needle [of the E-meter] alone but on the Tone Arm [sensitivity adjustment] as well.

-L. Ron Hubbard, E-Meter Essentials, section I: "Meter Oddities", 1988 (pg. 24)
Perhaps the unusually strong withholds can be explained by the Bantu's mercenary nature:

Because the one thing — the very, very commercial little culture the Bantu has … the idea of commerce and money and that sort of thing is very deeply ingrained in these people.

-L. Ron Hubbard, SHSBC, "Errors in Time", 18 July 1963
Scientology: The Fundamentals of Thought is one of Scientology's basic public texts and has this to say about African "savages":
Just as individuals can be seen, by observing nations, so we see the African tribesman, with his complete contempt for truth and his emphasis on brutality and savagery for others but not for himself, is a no-civilization.

-L. Ron Hubbard, Scientology: The Fundamentals of Thought, Bridge Publications: Los Angeles, 1997.
According to Hubbard, Zulus are crazy:
…the Zulu is only outside the bars of a madhouse because there are no madhouses provided by his tribe. … primitives are far more aberrated than civilized peoples. Their savageness, their unprogressiveness, their incidence of illness …

-L. Ron Hubbard, Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health, Bridge Publications, Los Angeles, 1995.
The Church runs security checks on members suspected of certain criminal behaviors. The Johannesburg Security Check was "the roughest security check in Scientology" and consisted of a series of pointed questions which Scientologists answered while on the E-meter (used in this case not as an auditing tool but as a lie detector). Included in the list of "crimes" is engaging in an intimate relationship with a member of a "colored" race. A selected portion of the questions:
Have you ever slept with a member of a race of another color?
Have you ever committed culpable homicide?
Have you ever bombed anything?
Have you ever murdered anyone?
Have you ever kidnapped anyone?

-L. Ron Hubbard, HCOPL 7 April 1961, "Johannesburg Security Check"

There are hints that Scientology membership was limited to whites, at least initially, in their organizations in southern Africa. In the first quote below, Hubbard is concerned about the World Bank taking control of England and the general advance of Communism. He believes a stronghold of civilization can be set up in Africa to salvage white culture. In the second quote, Hubbard praises the South African organization, that, in spite of the limited white population from which to recruit, managed to outproduce all other Scientology organizations.
Now if we can get white population, immigrants and big companies and so on moving into Africa and if we can get with that Scientology well established in Southern Africa, why we can then look forward to a salvage operation base, in case the northern hemisphere's lights go out.

-L. Ron Hubbard, recorded talk to the Saint Hill staff about Rhodesia, 6 May 1966
As South Africa has a white population of only 2.8 million or thereabouts, you can see that every other central organization in the world has been out-created.

-L. Ron Hubbard, HCOB 17 July 1959, "Africa over the Top"
Hubbard sees indigenous people as happy, ignorant natives dancing in the jungle or trying to overthrow the colonial government. [We assume these are Africans since he mentions British involvement and he had a special interest in that part of the world, though the ethnic identity of these "natives" is not actually germane to his point.]
Illiterate cultures do not survive and they are not very high. The natives of the tribe of the Bugga-Bugga-Booga-Boogas down in Lower Bugga-Wugga Booga-Woog are mostly no longer with us, or they are around waving red flags today and revolting against their central government.

And they didn't learn fast. Their literacy was not up to absorbing culture rapidly.

They've been very happily down amongst the bong-bong trees, you know, dancing up and down amongst the bong-bong trees, and the highest level of their interest and so forth was their own back yard.

-L. Ron Hubbard, The Study Tapes, "Study: Evaluation and Information", lecture given 11 August 1964
ref: http://solitarytrees.net/racism/deny.htm

Thanks to Solitary Trees for their excellent research and expose on L. Ron Hubbard, Scientology and racism.
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Post by J. Swift » Sun May 07, 2006 9:07 am

Adding more hypocrisy to Scientology in this matter of its new relationship to The Nation of Islam is LRH insulting Islam as an implant and insulting the Prophet Mohammed. LRH said that Mohammed "mocked up" Islam to create more business in his town.

We read at The Scientology Comparative Theology Page:
Hubbard Maligns Islam
These three quotes occur in succession in Whats Wrong with this Universe: A Working Package for the Auditor, L. Ron Hubbard, 9 Dec 1952.

Hubbard on the Lodestone
"..finds this enormous stone hanging suspended in the middle of a room. This is an incident called the Emanator by the way. ...and this thing is by the way the source of the Mohammedan Lodestone that they have hanging down there,..."
Commentary:
* Hubbard asserts that the stone at Mecca is an artifact of an incident [implant or false memory]. This is consistent with other incidents found in Scientology, for example R6 which is the basis of Christianity.

Hubbard on Mohammed
"...that, eh, when Mohammed decided to be a good small-town booster in ah Kansas, Middle-East, or something of the sort."
Commentary:
* Kansas is a large, flat, semi-arid, sparsely populated state roughly in the center of North America. In this context, Kansas is disparaged as a cultural backwater, seemingly unworthy of notice. By extension, "Kansas, Middle-East" (at least in the United States) characterizes Mohammed as a local personality in an insignificant corner of the world. Hubbard showed disrespect for the founders of nearly all major world religions, so this gratuitous snub is not unexpected.

* Hubbard gratuitously insults Mohammed and Islam in stating that Mohammed began his ministry as "a good small-town booster [advocate]".

Hubbard on Mohammed's Motives
"By the way, the only reason he mocked that thing up, is the trade wasn't good in his hometown. That's right. You read the life of Mohammed."
Commentary:
* Mohammed (Salla Allah Alieh wa salaam) did not mock Islam up for the reason of trade. He comes from one of the wealthiest families in Arabia. He was offered the wealth of his family in exchange for not teaching Islam, but refused.

* As documented in Islamic books, Mohammed taught "Zuhud", an Arabic word which means to denounce all the material things in life and turn towards God "Allah". Even though Mohammed was married to the wealthiest woman in Arabia, he lived the life of the poor, never slept on a cushion, had old and patched clothes, and never complained. Mohammed taught Mulsims to be humble, to respect the elders and be kind to the young.

* Mecca was the pilgrimage place for many of the people at that time and the pilgrimage time then and now is a very good business time so there is and was no reason to mock anything up for business.

* "mockup" refers to the Scientology concept of thetans' ability to fabricate something simply by willing it into being. Used in context, Genesis 1:1 reads, "...In the beginning, God mocked up the heavens and the earth."

* Hubbard gratuitously insults Mohammed (again) by stating that Islam was created in response to business, rather than spiritual motivation. Given Scientology's tendency to over-emphasize monetary gain, Hubbard is the pot calling the kettle black.

Hubbard on the Casbah [sic]
"And he's got a black one and it sort of hung between the ceiling and the floor, I don't know, maybe they call it 'Casbah' or something ... Anyway, anyway, that thing is a mockup of the Emanator!"
Commentary:
* Hubbard shows contempt for Islam by using the incorrect word for the ka'abah, a cubical building in the mosque at Mecca which houses a black stone, believed to be a fragment of Abraham's altar.

* Given the ethnic stereotypes portrayed in 1950s movies such as Casablanca, Hubbard's use of "the Casbah"[sic] is very nearly an ethnic slur. "The Casbah", a poor district of Cairo(?), invokes images of corruption and intrigue, and was sadly one of the few images that Americans had of Middle Eastern culture during the 1950s.

Hubbard on the Roots of Islam
"The Emanator is bright, not black. And so, your volunteer, who insists on a sightseeing trip, goes in and this thing is standing in the middle of the room, and it's going 'wong wong wong wong wong' and he says: "Isn't that pretty?". It sure is, and then he says "Mmmgrmrm ponk" Why, I'll tell you, they cart him from there, and they take him in and they do a transposition of beingness."
Commentary:
* Hubbard claims that in a previous life, people were hypnotized by the Emanator and had a "transposition of beingness" [an implant or false memory]. Mohammed, who had this implant from a previous life, vaguely remembered the Emanator prior to "mocking up" Islam. This is similar to Hubbard's explanation for the origins of Christianity - "through watching the dramatizations of people, picked up some little fragments of R6."

* Hubbard shows further contempt for Islam by describing a religious pilgrimage to Mecca as "a sightseeing trip".

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David Miscavige on Religions of the Last 2000 Years
"For while you've often heard it said 'we are the only major religion to emerge in this 20th century,' the truth is more than that. In fact, we are the only new religion. Not a reinterpretation of some ancient doctrine, but the only original scriptural voice in the last 2,000 years.", International Scientology News #7, David Miscavige, March 13, 1998 [ecclesiastical leader]

Commentary:
* Apparently, Miscavige views Islam as just a "reinterpretation" of ancient doctrine and not an original scriptural voice.

* Scientology claims 8 million adherents, but probably has no more than 100,000 active members. Superlatives and hyperbole are common in Scientology publications. Scientology is most certainly not a "major" religion in the sense that Islam is a major religion.
ref: http://www.ezlink.com/~perry/CoS/Theology/islam.htm

Again, David Miscavige has had 26 years of power in which he could have purged LRH's racist and anti-Islamic remarks from Scientology's scriptures and he hasn't. It looks like DM just wants to make money from selling courses to The Nation of Islam and could care less about LRH's racism and insults to Allah and his Prophet Mohammed.
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Post by RIPODB » Sun May 07, 2006 11:25 am

Thank you J Swift! I'm not surprised about the DM/Farrakahn connection. Both men have the unique ability of being able to spew hate and bigotry with smiles on their faces.

Please let us know if you get any response from Farrakhan. My guess is no. Like a true racist, he will respect Scio's racism even though it's a different brand from his form of racism. Who knows, DM might have thrown out an anti-Semitic remark just to smooth over their differences!
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Post by pitbull » Sun May 07, 2006 1:50 pm

The more hard-core folks who take an interest in "scientology" the better.
The power-hungry will not sit back and accept the current church leadership structure. They will see through it in a heartbeat and say "what is this cracker jive"?
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Post by marlysfan » Sun May 07, 2006 2:13 pm

The fact that DM essentially states that the Nation of Islam is useless without LRH tech is pukeatronic.

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Post by hartley » Sun May 07, 2006 3:22 pm

J. Swift wrote:Adding more hypocrisy to Scientology in this matter of its new relationship to The Nation of Islam is LRH insulting Islam as an implant and insulting the Prophet Mohammed.
The Nation of Islam is at best a highly heretical group, like other heretics they of course claim to be the 'true' Islam. One of their heresies is a deemphasis of the prophet Mohammed in favour of their own founder who is claimed to have been not only the Messiah but also, like Jesus, God incarnate.
However, I'd guess they would regard Hubbard's remarks as insulting.

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Post by J. Swift » Sun May 07, 2006 4:01 pm

Pitbull, you have engaged in Fair Game against OCMB by posting a picture of a barefooted Black Man eating watermelon and attributing "Black talk" to him." This is your worst display of racism ever.

Pitbull: This is exactly why I tell the group that you need to be banned. You have smeared a serious topic by injecting blatant racism into it. I have to say that you are OSA and that you do use racism, pedophilia, and every other hot button to smear, divide, and sleaze OCMB. I am just waiting for some necrophilia because there are no boundaries for you.

Scientology is being destroyed by the forces of global culture and then you will be unemployed.

Ladies and Gentlemen: Pitbull needs to be banned permanently. If he is not OSA he is severly criminal in his outlook. I think he is OSA and this egregious display of racism proves it.
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Post by pitbull » Sun May 07, 2006 4:08 pm

Swift:

You really need to relax. Its sunday. Go take a walk. Have a Cream soda.

You started the thread out by making blatant threatening and racist comments:
The dominoes have been falling quickly for Scientology in the past eighteen months as it buckles under the weight of DM's inept fascism.
First with the undehand "domino" epiteth and then insulting the Nation of Islam. Maybe they have a reason to want to use Scientology tech.

Otherwise, you are taking a what is already a group rife with controversy for its appeal to black men but also its militant actions and comments over the years and making them look evil somehow by being aligned with scientology.

So its OK for you to be racist, but its not OK for others to make jokes?
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Post by Hubbard's Mushroom » Sun May 07, 2006 4:17 pm

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Post by deb_thang » Sun May 07, 2006 4:31 pm

If nothing else, why not set it up so that all of Pitbull's posts will automatically be submitted to admin before appearing in any thread? I know some forums have this function (although I don't know if it can be made to apply to some vs. all members). Pitbull's relevant posts can be made visible to members, and his more treacherous stuff gets trashed before the public is made sick by exposure to it.

This way Pitbull can, by posting his antagonistic views and inspiring the provision of so many excellent responses, continue to make it easy for the critics here to demonstrate time and again the benefits of leaving scientology and joining real life on the outside.

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Post by Sponge » Sun May 07, 2006 4:57 pm

pitbull wrote:Swift:

You really need to relax. Its sunday. Go take a walk. Have a Cream soda.

You started the thread out by making blatant threatening and racist comments:
The dominoes have been falling quickly for Scientology in the past eighteen months as it buckles under the weight of DM's inept fascism.
First with the undehand "domino" epiteth and then insulting the Nation of Islam. Maybe they have a reason to want to use Scientology tech.

Otherwise, you are taking a what is already a group rife with controversy for its appeal to black men but also its militant actions and comments over the years and making them look evil somehow by being aligned with scientology.

So its OK for you to be racist, but its not OK for others to make jokes?
Oh dear, I see that "upstart wanker pitbull operative #34" is on OSA duty today.

I see no evidence of racism here by any OCMB members in any posts except yours. Unless you are fucking blind then you will also see blatant racism and insulting the nation of islam in the quoted text of Hubbard himself.
Relax, it's Sunday, go take a walk, have some kool-aid with your "friends".

Now back on topic.....

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Post by J. Swift » Sun May 07, 2006 5:10 pm

This is typical Pitbull trolling. He has to immediately change the topic away from LRH's blatant racism:
LRH said in a letter to his first wife Polly:
You shouldn't be scrubbing the floor on your hands and knees. Get yourself a nigger; that's what they're born for.
Pitbull always does this: He accuses people of that which they have attacked Scientology for. He is an expert and flopping this way.

Pitbull: Your miserable cult of Scientology was led by a racist and when Rev. Farrakahn finds that DM is also a racist he will cancel the WLC contracts. That is the action that is being taken. I have sent Rev. Farrakahn a letter and will call tomorrow to follow it up. I will also send letters to other groups about this matter.

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Post by bird » Sun May 07, 2006 5:45 pm

Ok

Look around you and find something you could have.

In particular, try to locate these:

* A life
* A conscience
* Someone to love

Don't give up, they're actually there.

An indication that you found those would be clearly apparent from any positive reaction you get from OCMB posters on anything you'll write from now on.

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Post by curiosity » Mon May 08, 2006 9:45 pm

What a strange alliance! It reminds me when Scientology invited reps from the Unification Church to attend some Scientology religious freedom rallies in the 1970's.

Maybe Nation of Islam has changed, but I recall that NOI participated in white supremacist events a number of years back and actually joined forces because both groups agreed that American blacks and whites should be segregated and have their own independent nations carved out of regions of the United States. Seeing photographs of NOI reps on the same stage as white supremacists was a surreal experience, to say the least. NOI also has a history of anti-semitism (not just anti-Zionism, but against the actual religion). I was always bothered by the fact that NOI provided armed bodyguards to people like O.J. Simpson and Michael Jackson when they were on trial--it was akin to NOI having a mercenary force. Again, I have not kept up with NOI, so maybe there has been change since then.

Also, Miscavage is wrong about NOI having virtually invented black pride. I think Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King really got the ball rolling on that. King, of course, was a Christian minister, not NOI.

The consequence of the Scientology-NOI alliance is that Scientologists will now be indirectly supporting NOI. Is this what its members really want to do?

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