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Post by Sponge » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:40 pm

Report:
KimP wrote: Just returned from the protest by ANON in Toronto, Canada. Approx
150-200 people turned up on a cold blustery day. It was amazing to see
that many people there.

Police were there as well - about 4 bikie cops, several other officers
to enforce peaceful pickets and to keep sidewalks passable. No problem
with picketers in general - all kinds of fliers were handed out and the
signs were great too.

"NAME THE ONLY CHURCH IN CANADA WITH A CRIMINAL CONVICTION{"
"SCIENTOLOGY DESTROYS FAMILY"
HAPPY BIRTHDAY LISA MCPHERESON

One enterprising person had a sign they held across from the big window
at the ORG : Leave Scientology, We can help you"

The picketers were all well behaved and handed out fliers and spoke out
slogans. It was great to see.

Lots of media were there - print,radio,and TV. I talked to some of them
and so did Gregg - we were not afraid to use our names since scientology
already knows them anyway.

I am sure there will be pics and videos on line soon.

Only one incident - a protestor had a plastic gun - was approached by
the cops and searched. Not sure he was actually ANON - most anons who
were around were calling him names and distancing themselves from him.
A plant perhaps seeking to make the protest look bad? Nah would never
happen would it?

I am stunned at the number that showed up - the knowledge these people
had and were willing to share - it was fantastic - no one was rude, all
followed the rules and helped each other out.

A few scientologists wandered out to gather fliers and the cameras were
going nonstop in the org.

Media went in and talked to the scientologists. I spoke to one reporter
after he had been in and he said they called the protesters "internet
terrorists"and that they did not want answer his questions.

All in all a grand day out! Worth the trip and the cold toes.

KIm P

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Post by Giggles » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:29 am

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Post by spacecootie » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:58 am

One major error in the story... the reporter refers to Co$ as a "science-based religion." That's only true if "science" means doing a lot of drugs and pulling weird shit out of your ass.

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Post by NattyP » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:28 pm

The "Toronto Sun":

I find it amusing that the spokeshole for the clams in Toronto is named "Yvette Shank." SHANK! This sh#t just CANNOT be made up!

http://torontosun.com/News/TorontoAndGT ... 3-sun.html

Mon, February 11, 2008

200 cruise by Scientology HQ Yonge St. demonstration part of global protest
By BRETT CLARKSON, SUN MEDIA

Kim Palmer doesn't care if Scientologists know who she is.

"I'm not anonymous because they know me. I've picketed here before," Palmer, 47, said.

As for most of the other 200 anti-Scientology protesters who gathered outside the religious group's Yonge St. offices yesterday, they did care. Many said they believe that if the controversial religious group learned their identities, it would attempt to keep tabs on them.

"To them we are SPs -- suppressive persons," said one female protester, referring to the term that gained prominence after a wide-eyed Tom Cruise mentioned it in the famous video of him praising Scientology.

Launched through an Internet collective called Anonymous, which claims no leaders and no organizers, yesterday's rally was one of dozens of Anonymous-inspired anti-Scientology rallies that took place around the world.

Some of the Toronto protesters covered their faces with scarves or balaclavas, while most donned Guy Fawkes masks -- popularized in the movie V For Vendetta -- as they crowded the Yonge St. sidewalk, hoisting signs that read "Ron is gone but the con lives on" and "Scientology Exploits."

Toronto Police said there were no arrests or incidents during the protest, which stayed peaceful from its 11 a.m. start to its 6 p.m. finish.

The Anonymous anti-Scientology campaign -- called Project Chanology -- was sparked by the religious group's aggressive efforts to rid the Internet of the video of an intense Cruise laughing hysterically while lauding the merits of the religion, founded by former science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard.

"We don't like people telling us what we can and cannot do on the Internet," one protester said yesterday.

In Anonymous' "Message To Scientology" video that was posted on the Internet last month, a cryptic, robotic voice intones: "Anonymous has therefore decided that your organization should be destroyed. For the good of your followers, for the good of mankind -- for the laughs -- we shall expel you from the Internet and systematically dismantle the Church of Scientology in its present form."

In an interview inside the Church of Scientology's Toronto facility, Rev. Yvette Shank, the president of the church in Canada, called the protesters "bigots" and said Anonymous is engaging in "hate mongering" and "religious hate crimes."

MORALE UNAFFECTED

Shank said the protest wasn't affecting the morale of the church members who watched as some of the protesters held signs up to the window and waved mockingly.

"I don't think it's affecting anybody at all," Shank said.

When asked if she and fellow Scientologists had considered talking to the protesters, Shank said there would be no point.

"I don't know why we'd bother," she said. "We do what we do, they do what they do."

She said that anybody who is curious about Scientology will only realize what it's about by reading books published by the religious group.

John Carmichael: Are you a homo? Have you come out of the closet?
ANONYMOUS: You're wearing tweed in the summer and you're asking ME if I'm a faggot? Xenu please ...
John Carmichael: What?

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Post by Sponge » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:38 pm

Picket Report:
Gregg Hagglund wrote: Yes, I'm still listening.

The ANON Demo-----!

Oh MiGhod....

Toronto Ontario, Feb 10, 2008
Sunny
****-20 Celesius
Windchill as bad as -29C*****

PTS and SP Participants:
200+ (Two Hundred plus)
Overt Scienopath Opposition: 1
Covert Scienopath Opposition: 2 possibly three Private Dicks out of
Buffalo (All Ontario PIs refused the gig)
Police:
6 Bicycle Cops (In the snow yet)
5 apparently C0$ hired off duty TO Police
6 Assigned TO Police
1 TO Police Sargeant
2 Plainclothes officers

Org Condition: Treason
Status: Hiding

Length of Event: 6 hrs (10:30 AM to 5:30 PM)

Ok,
Since OSA has my name on the permanent Disposal List it might not be
possible to convince them otherwise but here goes:

I , William G Hagglund did *not* organize this event.
I remind C0$ the Criminal Harrassment Charges prepared against the Org
and several of its Members may still be laid should you take any
actions towards me or my re-unified family.
Any OSA actions towards myself, family or Faith will earn Charges laid
either by the TO Police. Or, since they are nicely prepared and the
Crown has reviewed them, laid by myself. By appearing before a court,
and laying the complaint using the Charges as Prepared by Toronto
Police Investigating Detectives the Crown would be forced to act.


I did attend this event because I was invited (anonymously of course)
to view or join the event and to offer up my opinions and observations
as to how it unfolded.

I chose not to actively participate in the Mass Confront.

I drove by the Org around 10:15 AM and observed 20 Masked SPs
across the street from the Org with mostly hand written posters. I
also noticed the unusually large TO Police Contingent.

Parking is very scarce in downtown TO without snow and with it....
So it took me 30 minutes to park, and go to Starbucks just north of
the Org, intending to get a coffee....

The Starbucks was crowded with many mundanes as well as about
10 SPs with masks (V , Screamers, Phantom etc) which they had pushed
up onto their heads or were holding in their hands. I noted the OSA
had a SO (white shirt and black tie under an impossibly thin winter
coat) in the corner table taking photos by holding a very expensive
small camera on the table and tilting his LED screen so as to
accurately target SPs for closeups or continous digital video.

A longtime Starbucks staffer recognised me from the ARSCCwdne Pickets
and asked me if I wanted my usual. However, I drew the staffers'
attention to the SO and a little confront by th staffer occurred. The
SO left quietly. I followed the SPs outside and spoke to a few,
warning them to the OSA tricks.

I didn't get a coffee at that time, but walked down to the street to
the House of Lords Hair Salon opposite the Org.

There were over 100 SPs now. Chanting, flyering to the meager foot
traffic, getting many drive by honks.
All showed incredible energy, enthusiasm and strength of will.
However I noted virtually no one was approaching the Org side of the
street.
And the old Camera Goon Squad member was looking very lonely
over there with a dozen Cops lined up across the front of the Org.
The 6 Helmeted Bike Cops, wearing bright yellow winter jackets,
were lined up in a straight military row beside there bikes on St Mary
St., beside the Org and opposite the swelling number of SPs.
They were very intimidating and were obviously a reserve strike force
if matters got out of hand.

I decided to make a minor contribution to the Epic SP Win I was
watching unfold.
I crossed the street and introduced myself to the Sargeant in charge
and engaged in a discusssion about the Rights of Citizens to publicly
demonstrate and everyones obligations for peace etc. Several camera
holding SP net media and CTV taped the conversation.
I made it clear I was not running the show. Sarge maintained the
demonstrators could not come within three feet of any building while
the event transpired. (This was not the TO Org ancient myth that
the overhanging marquee of the building extended the C0$ property
line.) I asked for a copy of the Bylaw. He didn't have one and didn't
think he needed to produce one.
( Not my show, so I let it go, but I do not believe such a restriction
exists. Some ANON reading ARS needs to check that out and have a talk
with 51 Station.)
It was then clear the SPs could occupy both sides of the street
provided no impedence was made of foot traffic or entrance ways.
Shortly thereafter a swarm of SPs crossed the street and raucously,but
peaceably ,became At Cause over the Org.
I also suggested to the Cops that the C0$ be instructed to keep the
music ( they had begun to play from the marquee speakers) down or off
to forestall the mass of SPs from cranking up their young strong
voices to counter.....

I walked past the Org front. Hiding inside, Yvette Shenke gave me the
Death Stare, Mario looked at me, took a moment to recognise me through
my new (to him) goatee and rolled his eyes. Brian Macpherson was there
of course, still doing his Amends by being at a picket and riding herd
on the newbie SO and inexperienced trainees. I waved at Brian and
tried to get him to come out for a chat. He just gave me a fixed stare
and grin. (Pat Felske was nowhere to be seen and she is the titular
senior OSA flunky.Big Al didn't show either. Hmmm...) There was only
one OSA designated photographer inside the Org busy taking photos and
video of the SPs.
Sad. They only had one OT3 available for the job of recording all the
enturbulating picket signs referring to the many parts of Hubbard spew
and Management activities the C0$ does not want imparted to less
junior members.

None of the old OSA Goon Street Squad made any appearance. They were
not needed as the Org had decided, prior to the earlier announced ANON
demonstrations, to Hide and adopt the role of persecuted victim should
large numbers of SPs show up.
It was amusing to watch the management of "The fastest growing
religion in the world" with "the best OT Tech" claim they were being
terrorised by individuals displaying indisputably accurate derogatory
information about the C0$.

I moved away from the Org and stood in front of the row of Bike Cops
and joined two other ARSCCwdne Picketers from the past.
We had a nice reunion and enjoyed ouselves.
Our very presence was a Standby Enturbulation. We were soon recognised
by some locals and Net Educated ANON Sps. We began unending
conversations about the Criminal Cult. Corrected misinformation,
learned alot about a whole new Generation of SPs and what motivated
them to oppose the Criminal Cult.

There was camera coverage of the event from all the Networks and
dozens of private individuals with their own blogs,websites,
facebooks, film projects etc.

By 11 AM I counted nearly 200, mostly masked demonstrators. By noon it
was clearly more that that. I gave up counting.

There was only one incident I am aware of and the Cops steered the
offending Scienopath back into the Org.

It was a stunning show of public disdain and contempt for the conduct
of the Criminal Cult and the continuing harm done by Hubbards cash cow
of a false religion.

My Observations:


Previously, the offenses by the C0$ against Free Speech on the Net
drew them a protracted series of pickets by small groups and, for
awhile, one large yearly demo in CW.

The technology of visual communication and the Net has evolved.
Co$ tech has not.
They tried to handle the the new highly networked personal visual Net
media of today with the brutal tactics they used, with some success,
before.
To me, it looks like they threw a very large rock at one African Bee,
not noticing that their intended target was sitting on top of a
Planetary size Nest.

And we thought they often shot themselves in the Foot before...

Truly, the Net is the C0$ Vietnam.

Positives:
Huge turnou tof Uncontrolled numbers, but no numbers "Out of Control"
Few rowdy characters. (Only two fools with signs stating "Honk if you
Hate Scientology"
Lots of self discipline. (Polite to everyone.)
Most participants knew the issues. (Bad Cult Conduct, not silly cult
substance)
Many very very articulate.

Negatives:

Wiki based home page for Toronto Event was reached by accessing a URL
that began with "Hatemachine"

Some online ANON participants endorse illegal activities on the Net.
And voice a disdain of even minimal civilised controlling authority.

That page was briefly infilrtated and a statement about making Jews
and Gays the next target was added. An obvious OSA ploy. However that
version of the organising page will be the one the OSA has recorded
for legal tactical uses. (Saying it was found on the Net will be an
acceptable truth.)

There were many references to "Scifags" and Faggots. Not a good idea
when demonstrating close to the heart of Canada's largest Gay and
Alternative lifestyle Community. Could be deemed as antagonistic to
accepted social and community norms.

The event was aggressively called a "Raid" which implies an attack as
opposed to a more passive titles such as Protest or Demonstration or
Rally or Information Picket.

Demonstrators rarely moved about, but kept in a static, and arguably
ominous, agitated mass.

Nearly everyone was disguised. Brutal OSA tactics against the lives,
livelihoods and emotional well being of past demonstrators *does
justify this precaution*, but --- OSA simply does not have the
capacitiy to track the on street acitivity of this many people-- and
most passersby, if not intimidated by the sheer overwhelming size of
the Demonstration, were highly unlikely to accept flyers from masked
SPs.

Some demonstrators spent considerable time standing on icy snowbanks
waving placards and in danger of slipping or falling into the roadway.
Several did, but fortunately not when any traffic was near.

I think the Org may succeed in playing the "Fear' card and the "public
safety" card in any legal argument to obtain an injunction against
demonstrations near the Org.

Arguments that will be used:

The publicized "hate" theme, and (albeit planted) derogatory remarks
and continuing (by some) attitudes towards real minorities who still
experience real discrimination.

Apparent anarchist advocacy against the rule of international law on
the Net as a tool to achieve ANON aim to oppose the C0$

Aggressive name of picket as an aggressive action. (Raid)

Size

The overwhelming number of masked demonstrators with no internally
selected, elected or recognisable Group Control could be argued as
likely to lead to an out of control situation. If someone like Dan
Bryenton, OSA Goon, had been there, and lost it, as he had with our
smaller groups, and smashed a picket sign or knocked someone down or
stolen someones flyers or knocked down a camera, tripped someone,
etc......a mob mentality from a large group of disguised individuals
could have erupted into a riot. Even removing OSA thugs from the
equation, however ,does not diminsh the potential hazard. In the past,
we had passersby, unhappy for whatever reason, and not part of the C0$
do similar provocative acts. Acts which were annoying and harrassing
to a small group but would be arguably highly provocative and turn an
unorganised disguised mass into an angry mob protective of the Tribal
members.

Additionally some demonstrators were putting themselves at risk by
reckless behaviour at the edge of the street. (Public Safety)

For demos of this size, someone has to be in charge,likely known to
the Police (and therefore to the OSA unfortunately) with an internal
management organization in place in an effort to govern the actions of
such a large disguised group. (Regulate how many people are where,
their movement and to toss out, with police assistance, troublemakers
and OSA agence provacateurs.)

I hope the Co$ gets an unsympathetic Judge, who will want to see how
the ANON street acitivies adapt to legal concerns for the next
Demonstration. (The situation is escalating. Will the hidden promoters
impose some recognizable on sight responsible order? Even a simple as
one person, even masked, using a megaphone to relay instructions and
admonish bad behaviour might do.)

Hopefully someone, perhaps even a sympathetic lawyer or Civil Action
group will fill the necessary leadership needed to assure the powers
that be that things are very unlikely to get out of control.

That someone will *not* be me.




I stopped hosting Pickets years ago not because of OSA abuses, bad as
they were, of my family and friends, but because it was proven to me
the demos were keeping the Goon Squad and the Org together and
motiviated to KSW. Within 6 months of stopping pickets the Goonies
drifted away rarely were on Course and only attended events. The
mentality and enthusiasm of "Us Against the SPs to KSW" evaporated.
Org membership dropped at a faster rate.
They are down to Old time management members stuck in a poorly funded
downstat, obviously underfunded Org. A few SO culled from the Cult
Creche of Children. Few new faces are On Course. Events are
extensions of and mostly attended by, the Buffalo Org.

I think these Demos are so large that the Orgs will not attempt to
recruit (or coerce) members to pay for the OSA training courses and
tech to oppose OT3 chanting SPs face to face as in the past.

They will use the law to harrass and handle the Demos, just as they
were able to in CW, even if they have to manufacture an incident or
two as usual.

I do want this Criminal Cult gone.

Of course they won't disappear from our Country until they get
convicted again, or the US parent organization is drained of members
and funds.

I think the new generation of SPs and thevolume of real anti
recruitment type of publicity will strangle the ORgs faster than ever
before.

I hope these mass, peaceful, educated Demos will continue.


Now, OSA, listen very carefully.

I am not actively involved and do not want to be.

Do not force me off of that position.

200+ currently loosely organised SPs picketing once a month could
easily become organized into 50 SPs showing up every weekend and
possibly even numerous Guirella pickets of 20 or more several times a
week. 200 SPs could make a real political impact at a City Hall
meeting on the deplorable ignorance by local Government of the
Criminal Cult Conduct. Toronto is bankrupt and getting the question on
the agentda of " Why should a non charity retailer anti community
corporation such as the Criminally convicted cult continue to get a
50% property tax break?" would be just part of the local PR nightmare
for the Toronto Org.

OSA, you can't handle the numbers and the Cops won't let you.

My intelligence says OSA is convinced the PTS behind these new demos
are all really the ARSCC in disguise.

Well I am not the "Who".

Don't create the situation that forces me to simultaneously lay
charges already prepared and to offer to actively train or even
organise such a large number of willing, energetic, determined,
educated and civilised SPs.

OSA, keep hiding and in my case if not in that of many others, run the
other way.


Geez. I never, ever imagined so many SP Thetans laying seige to the
Orgs and being so massively At Cause simultaneously worldwide over the
Criminal Cult.

Ahhh, the cockles of my heart are glowing warmly.


Now, I intend to go back to my dormant state, my SP hibernation.
Unless of course some idiot kicks down my door.


But let me give the Dept 20 staffers something to do.

Remember how quickly I, the overly excited eager beaver Net Nerd
"adapted" to OSA tactics and "learned" Scieno Speak. Remember how
easily I acquired, understood, organised and presented your entire
internal and previously concealed operations to the Canadian
Government. Remember Mike Argue, the notorious local ex-scientologist
I coaxed into aiding us, always thought I was an OSA plant because for
and outsider he felt I knew too much? Ever wonder how I had all that
C0$ documentation and organisational data (as well as excellent
academic and scholarly help) so quickly into the hands of Revenue
Canada in 1997 and stopped your bid for Charity Status? Why couldn't
Al Buttnor handle a PTS like me before I became RTS and stamped as an
SP that *must* be dealt with? Why didn't I ever Cave?
*I* never had a rockslam, even on the old black box. Not even with a
surprise pinch.
No *SP* gave me the copy of the OSA Hat Check and training routines
that I gave to the Canadian Intelligence Community.


In the 1970s I attended the University of Windsor. I also spent a lot
of time in Ann Arbor. See if you can locate my PC folder and the name
I used while experimenting with Auditine eh? You'd be surprised, if
you can find that Folder. But we aren't supposed to talk about our
case are we?



Start digging. Keep busy. Stay out of my way and away from the Temple
and our Trademarks and copyrighted materials.

Congrats to ANON. I hope for the best.

Gregg Hagglund SP7

Scientology Management does not always tell truth;
Scientology Management has condoned, conducted and been
convicted of illegal,unethical and immoral activities;
Some Scientology Practices are dangerous to participants health,
either physical or mental or both;
Scientology Management and L.R. Hubbard lied about Hubbards life
history and accomplishments;
Despite the pseudo-scientific claims of Hubbard no Scientology or
Dianetic process has *ever* been clinically *proven* to work as
claimed.

I have been circulating the above, in one form or another
since 1999.

Were the above not true, then they would be defamations of
Corporate Scientology and we both know Co$ has the money and the
lawyers to force me to retract or cease to utter or print them.

But the above *are* true.
And the first four are enforced by *current* Co$ policies.

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Post by Giggles » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:03 am

Schooling on hate crimes.....

READ THIS WHOLE ARTICLE!

http://torontoist.com/2008/02/was_that_a_hate.php

snip:
A spokesperson for the Church of Scientology labelled Sunday's protest outside its office at Yonge & St Mary—part of a worldwide series of protests—a "religious hate crime" and said that the "hate crimes of Anonymous should be condemned," as reported in Torontoist, CTV and the Toronto Sun, among others.

That got us thinking. Accusing someone of a "hate crime" is pretty damning. Are the protestors guilty of it? Our preliminary answer, based on the facts known to us: probably—and almost certainly—not.

Canada's laws on hate crime are found in sections 318 to 320 of the Criminal Code, which define three types of hate crimes. Two of them are relatively rare and don't arise here: advocating or promoting genocide, and inciting hatred that will likely cause an immediate threat to public order. The key crime for our purposes is the third: anyone who "by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group" (subsection 319(2)).

This crime has five components and—since it's a criminal charge—each component must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
Would be ineteresting to see what other country's hate crime laws are and if CoS is breaking any of them including.
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Post by caroline » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:19 am

Giggles wrote:Schooling on hate crimes.....

READ THIS WHOLE ARTICLE!

http://torontoist.com/2008/02/was_that_a_hate.php

snip:
A spokesperson for the Church of Scientology labelled Sunday's protest outside its office at Yonge & St Mary—part of a worldwide series of protests—a "religious hate crime" and said that the "hate crimes of Anonymous should be condemned," as reported in Torontoist, CTV and the Toronto Sun, among others.

That got us thinking. Accusing someone of a "hate crime" is pretty damning. Are the protestors guilty of it? Our preliminary answer, based on the facts known to us: probably—and almost certainly—not.

Canada's laws on hate crime are found in sections 318 to 320 of the Criminal Code, which define three types of hate crimes. Two of them are relatively rare and don't arise here: advocating or promoting genocide, and inciting hatred that will likely cause an immediate threat to public order. The key crime for our purposes is the third: anyone who "by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group" (subsection 319(2)).

This crime has five components and—since it's a criminal charge—each component must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
Would be ineteresting to see what other country's hate crime laws are and if CoS is breaking any of them including.
No kidding. Scientology should be challenged on their Suppressive Person doctrine, and the hateful and terroristic actions which flow from it. One in forty people on the planet adds up to genocide. http://suppressiveperson.org/spdl/index ... mitstart=4
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Report Number: 2008/02/13:22:03:36 caroline@carolineletkeman.org
Problem Type: Story - Comment/Question
Report Datestamp: 13-Feb-2008 at 22:03:36
Reported URL: http://www.torontosun.com/News/OtherNew ... 4-sun.html

PROBLEM DESCRIPTION
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If you were on Scientology's payroll, you couldn't do much better for a headline, in this day and age. Did you watch the Cruise video where he expressed his desire for a world without "Suppressive Persons"? Scientology mailed itself a phony bomb threat and framed Paulette Cooper with it. They have a history of "attacking" themselves when it serves their purposes. Before you rush to the mellow conclusion, dig a little deeper please. You aren't doing us any favors. Sincerely, Caroline Letkeman www.gerryarmstrong.org www.suppressiveperson.org/spdl/ www.carolineletkeman.org/sp/

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