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RTC fails to renew trademarks in Canada too...

Post by Smersh » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:05 pm

The database was last updated on: 2008-02-19
APPLICATION NUMBER:
0658280 REGISTRATION NUMBER:
TMA385604
STATUS: EXPUNGED
FILED: 1990-04-30
ADVERTISED: 1991-02-13
REGISTERED: 1991-06-07
REGISTRANT:
RELIGIOUS TECHNOLOGY CENTER,
1710 IVAR AVENUE,
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA 90028,
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
REPRESENTATIVE FOR SERVICE:
RICHES, MCKENZIE & HERBERT LLP
SUITE 1800
2 BLOOR STREET EAST
TORONTO
ONTARIO M4W 3J5
TRADE-MARK:
NEW LIFE RUNDOWN

DISCLAIMER TEXT:
The right to the exclusive use of the word RUNDOWN is disclaimed apart from the trade-mark.
INDEX HEADINGS:
NEW LIFE RUNDOWN
LIFE RUNDOWN, NEW
RUNDOWN, NEW LIFE
SERVICES:
(1) Religious and ministerial services, and pastoral counselling services, and making arrangements with respect to enrolment to enable individuals to receive religious and ministerial services and pastoral counselling services.
CLAIMS:
Used in CANADA since at least as early as 1975.
ASSOCIATED MARKS:
TMA451,731 TMA451,732 TMA451,733 TMA477,216
ACTION DATE BF COMMENTS
Filed 30 April 1990
Search Recorded 29 August 1990
Correspondence Created 16 October 1990
Advertised 13 February 1991 Vol.38 Issue 1894
Allowed 12 April 1991
Allowance Notice Sent 12 April 1991 15 October 1991
Registered 07 June 1991
Rep for Service Changed 06 March 1998 From: 59 To: 9900
Rep for Service Changed 16 March 1999 From: 9900 To: 6489
Agent Name Change 16 October 2000
Rep for Service Name Change 16 October 2000
Renewal Notice Sent 05 July 2006
Automatic Expungement - Failure to Renew

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/app/cipo/trad ... exOnPage=1
The database was last updated on: 2008-02-19
APPLICATION NUMBER:
0658271 REGISTRATION NUMBER:
TMA387140
STATUS: EXPUNGED
FILED: 1990-04-30
ADVERTISED: 1991-03-20
REGISTERED: 1991-07-26
REGISTRANT:
RELIGIOUS TECHNOLOGY CENTER,
1710 IVAR AVENUE,
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA 90028,
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
REPRESENTATIVE FOR SERVICE:
RICHES, MCKENZIE & HERBERT LLP
SUITE 1800
2 BLOOR STREET EAST
TORONTO
ONTARIO M4W 3J5
TRADE-MARK:
L 11

INDEX HEADINGS:
L 11
NUMERALS-11
SERVICES:
(1) Religious and ministerial services, and pastoral counselling services, and making arrangements with respect to enrolment to enable individuals to receive religious and ministerial services and pastoral counselling services.
CLAIMS:
Used in CANADA since at least as early as 1975.
ACTION DATE BF COMMENTS
Filed 30 April 1990
Search Recorded 29 August 1990
Correspondence Created 16 October 1990
Advertised 20 March 1991 Vol.38 Issue 1899
Allowed 17 May 1991
Allowance Notice Sent 17 May 1991 18 November 1991
Registered 26 July 1991
Rep for Service Changed 06 March 1998 From: 59 To: 9900
Rep for Service Changed 16 March 1999 From: 9900 To: 6489
Agent Name Change 16 October 2000
Rep for Service Name Change 16 October 2000
Renewal Notice Sent 16 August 2006
Automatic Expungement - Failure to Renew 16 March 2007

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/app/cipo/trad ... exOnPage=1
The database was last updated on: 2008-02-19
APPLICATION NUMBER:
0658273 REGISTRATION NUMBER:
TMA387141
STATUS: EXPUNGED
FILED: 1990-04-30
ADVERTISED: 1991-03-06
REGISTERED: 1991-07-26
REGISTRANT:
RELIGIOUS TECHNOLOGY CENTER,
1710 IVAR AVENUE,
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA 90028,
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
REPRESENTATIVE FOR SERVICE:
RICHES, MCKENZIE & HERBERT LLP
SUITE 1800
2 BLOOR STREET EAST
TORONTO
ONTARIO M4W 3J5
TRADE-MARK:
L 12

INDEX HEADINGS:
L 12
NUMERALS-12
SERVICES:
(1) Religious and ministerial services, and pastoral counselling services, and making arrangements with respect to enrolment to enable individuals to receive religious and ministerial services and pastoral counselling services.
CLAIMS:
Used in CANADA since at least as early as 1975.
ACTION DATE BF COMMENTS
Filed 30 April 1990
Search Recorded 29 August 1990
Correspondence Created 16 October 1990
Advertised 06 March 1991 Vol.38 Issue 1897
Allowed 03 May 1991
Allowance Notice Sent 03 May 1991 04 November 1991
Registered 26 July 1991
Rep for Service Changed 06 March 1998 From: 59 To: 9900
Rep for Service Changed 16 March 1999 From: 9900 To: 6489
Agent Name Change 16 October 2000
Rep for Service Name Change 16 October 2000
Renewal Notice Sent 16 August 2006
Automatic Expungement - Failure to Renew 16 March 2007
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/app/cipo/trad ... exOnPage=1
The database was last updated on: 2008-02-19
APPLICATION NUMBER:
0627894 REGISTRATION NUMBER:
TMA379568
STATUS: EXPUNGED
FILED: 1989-03-17
ADVERTISED: 1990-04-11
REGISTERED: 1991-02-08
REGISTRANT:
RELIGIOUS TECHNOLOGY CENTER,
1710 IVAR AVENUE,
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA,
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
REPRESENTATIVE FOR SERVICE:
RICHES, MCKENZIE & HERBERT LLP
SUITE 1800
2 BLOOR STREET EAST
TORONTO
ONTARIO M4W 3J5
TRADE-MARK:
MARK SUPER VII & DESIGN
MARK DESCRIPTIVE REFERENCE:
MARK SUPER VII & DESIGN
DISCLAIMER TEXT:
The right to the exclusive use of the word SUPER is disclaimed apart from the trade-mark.
INDEX HEADINGS:
MARK SUPER VII
SUPER VII, MARK
NUMERAL-VII
VIENNA INFORMATION:
Code Description
20.5.7 Plans, schematic drawings, diagrams, curves, outlines
26.1.2 Ellipses
WARES:
(1) Electrometers, namely, electronic instruments for measuring the mental state of humans.
CLAIMS:
Declaration of Use filed December 07, 1990.
ASSOCIATED MARKS:
TMA421,643 TMA485,472 TMA485,473
ACTION DATE BF COMMENTS
Filed 17 March 1989
Search Recorded 30 May 1989
Correspondence Created 11 July 1989
Advertised 11 April 1990 Vol.37 Issue 1850
Allowed 08 June 1990
Allowance Notice Sent 08 June 1990 10 December 1990
Registered 08 February 1991
Rep for Service Changed 06 March 1998 From: 59 To: 9900
Rep for Service Changed 16 March 1999 From: 9900 To: 6489
Agent Name Change 16 October 2000
Rep for Service Name Change 16 October 2000
Renewal Notice Sent 01 March 2006
Automatic Expungement - Failure to Renew 28 September 2006

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/app/cipo/trad ... exOnPage=1
The database was last updated on: 2008-02-19
APPLICATION NUMBER:
0657187 REGISTRATION NUMBER:
TMA388065
STATUS: EXPUNGED
FILED: 1990-05-09
ADVERTISED: 1991-04-17
REGISTERED: 1991-08-23
REGISTRANT:
RELIGIOUS TECHNOLOGY CENTER,
1710 IVAR AVENUE,
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA 90028,
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
REPRESENTATIVE FOR SERVICE:
RICHES, MCKENZIE & HERBERT LLP
SUITE 1800
2 BLOOR STREET EAST
TORONTO
ONTARIO M4W 3J5
TRADE-MARK:
NEW VITALITY RUNDOWN
DISCLAIMER TEXT:
The right to the exclusive use of the word RUNDOWN is disclaimed apart from the trade-mark.
INDEX HEADINGS:
NEW VITALITY RUNDOWN
VITALITY RUNDOWN, NEW
RUNDOWN, NEW VITALITY
SERVICES:
(1) Religious and ministerial services, and pastoral counselling services, and making arrangements with respect to enrolment to enable individuals to receive religious and ministerial services and pastoral counselling services.
CLAIMS:
Used in CANADA since at least as early as 1975.
ASSOCIATED MARKS:
TMA293,155 TMA297,298 TMA451,731 TMA451,732 TMA451,733
TMA477,216
ACTION DATE BF COMMENTS
Filed 09 May 1990
Search Recorded 24 August 1990
Correspondence Created 29 October 1990
Advertised 17 April 1991 Vol.38 Issue 1903
Allowed 14 June 1991
Allowance Notice Sent 14 June 1991 14 December 1991
Registered 23 August 1991
Rep for Service Changed 06 March 1998 From: 59 To: 9900
Rep for Service Changed 16 March 1999 From: 9900 To: 6489
Agent Name Change 16 October 2000
Rep for Service Name Change 16 October 2000
Renewal Notice Sent 13 September 2006
Automatic Expungement - Failure to Renew 05 April 2007

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/app/cipo/trad ... exOnPage=1

The one below is the Sea Org logo
The database was last updated on: 2008-02-19
APPLICATION NUMBER:
0380088 REGISTRATION NUMBER:
TMA213730
STATUS: EXPUNGED
FILED: 1974-10-29
REGISTERED: 1976-05-14
REGISTRANT:
L. RON HUBBARD,
SAINT HILL MANOR,
EAST GRINSTEAD,
SUSSEX, ENGLAND,
UNITED KINGDOM
CURRENT OWNER:
RELIGIOUS TECHNOLOGY CENTER,
1710 IVAR AVENUE,
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA,
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
REPRESENTATIVE FOR SERVICE:
RICHES, MCKENZIE & HERBERT LLP
SUITE 1800
2 BLOOR STREET EAST
TORONTO
ONTARIO M4W 3J5
TRADE-MARK:
STAR & DESIGN
MARK DESCRIPTIVE REFERENCE:
STAR & DESIGN
VIENNA INFORMATION:
Code Description
1.1.1 Stars
5.13.4 Crossed branches
WARES:
(1) Jewellery.
SERVICES:
(1) Religious teaching and counselling offered through church services, classrooms and home study courses and arranging membership in a fraternal organization.
(2) Making arrangements with respect to enrollment to enable individuals to receive educational, teaching, cultural and philosophical services in the form of seminars, lectures, correspondence courses and supervised classroom counselling and to enable individuals to receive religious and ministerial services and pastoral counselling services.
CLAIMS:
Used in CANADA since at least as early as 1967 on wares and on
services (1).
Declaration of Use filed November 05, 1990 on services (2).
ASSOCIATED MARKS:
TMA315,345 TMA412,819
ACTION DATE BF COMMENTS
Filed 29 October 1974
Registered 14 May 1976
Renewed 14 May 1991
Rep for Service Changed 06 March 1998 From: 59 To: 9900
Rep for Service Changed 16 March 1999 From: 9900 To: 6489
Agent Name Change 16 October 2000
Rep for Service Name Change 16 October 2000
Renewal Notice Sent 31 May 2006
Automatic Expungement - Failure to Renew
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/app/cipo/trad ... exOnPage=1

The database was last updated on: 2008-02-19
APPLICATION NUMBER:
0658270 REGISTRATION NUMBER:
TMA387139
STATUS: EXPUNGED
FILED: 1990-04-30
ADVERTISED: 1991-03-20
REGISTERED: 1991-07-26
REGISTRANT:
RELIGIOUS TECHNOLOGY CENTER,
1710 IVAR AVENUE,
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA 90028,
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
REPRESENTATIVE FOR SERVICE:
RICHES, MCKENZIE & HERBERT LLP
SUITE 1800
2 BLOOR STREET EAST
TORONTO
ONTARIO M4W 3J5
TRADE-MARK:
L 10
INDEX HEADINGS:
L 10
NUMERALS-10
SERVICES:
(1) Religious and ministerial services, and pastoral counselling services, and making arrangements with respect to enrolment to enable individuals to receive religious and ministerial services and pastoral counselling services.
CLAIMS:
Used in CANADA since at least as early as 1975.
ACTION DATE BF COMMENTS
Filed 30 April 1990
Search Recorded 29 August 1990
Correspondence Created 16 October 1990
Advertised 20 March 1991 Vol.38 Issue 1899
Allowed 17 May 1991
Allowance Notice Sent 17 May 1991 18 November 1991
Registered 26 July 1991
Rep for Service Changed 06 March 1998 From: 59 To: 9900
Rep for Service Changed 16 March 1999 From: 9900 To: 6489
Agent Name Change 16 October 2000
Rep for Service Name Change 16 October 2000
Renewal Notice Sent 16 August 2006
Automatic Expungement - Failure to Renew 16 March 2007

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/app/cipo/trad ... exOnPage=1
The database was last updated on: 2008-02-19
APPLICATION NUMBER:
0605105 REGISTRATION NUMBER:
TMA351807
STATUS: EXPUNGED
FILED: 1988-04-15
ADVERTISED: 1988-09-28
REGISTERED: 1989-02-17
REGISTRANT:
RELIGIOUS TECHNOLOGY CENTER,
1710 IVAR AVENUE,
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA,
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
REPRESENTATIVE FOR SERVICE:
RICHES, MCKENZIE & HERBERT LLP
SUITE 1800
2 BLOOR STREET EAST
TORONTO
ONTARIO M4W 3J5
TRADE-MARK:
PURIF
INDEX HEADINGS:
PURIF
SERVICES:
(1) Educational services and religious services, namely, promoting spiritual awareness and gain through the eradication of chemical contaminates in the body.
CLAIMS:
Used in CANADA since at least as early as July 1983.
ASSOCIATED MARKS:
TMA357,255
ACTION DATE BF COMMENTS
Filed 15 April 1988
Search Recorded 04 July 1988
Advertised 28 September 1988 Vol.35 Issue 1770
Allowed 02 December 1988
Registered 17 February 1989
Rep for Service Changed 06 March 1998 From: 59 To: 9900
Rep for Service Changed 16 March 1999 From: 9900 To: 6489
Agent Name Change 16 October 2000
Rep for Service Name Change 16 October 2000
Renewal Notice Sent 10 March 2004
Automatic Expungement - Failure to Renew 30 September 2004

http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/app/cipo/trad ... exOnPage=1

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Post by Vled » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:07 pm

What's going on?! Someone please explain to my legally-ignorant brain!

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Post by The_Beacon » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:24 pm

Either through incompetence or choice, Religious Technology Centre have not renewed their rights to various Scientology related logos and intellectual properties. This means that in Canada and the UK others would be legally able to use those trademarks or things very similar to them. This is akin to, say, Coca-Cola letting the trademark of the curve or the signature lapse, which would then allow others to use the curve and/or a similar look and feel to the signature (though not, presumably, the name itself) on their own carbonated beverage with vegetable extracts.

It doesn't amount to much in terms of what it might allow critics of the Church to do, but it does suggest at least a shift in focus within the organisation itself.
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Post by Vled » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:27 pm

Would this be happening because of seriously falling numbers? That is, it isn't worth registering them anymore because the income being gained from these areas is so low?

Also, so does this mean i can start a False Purpose Rundown course if i wanted to? Or produce a film under the name Golden Era Productions?

In other words, how can this be taken advantage of? ;) Also, if somebody registered the Trademarks - does that mean that Co$ has to stop using them?!

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Post by The_Beacon » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:38 pm

I imagine you could regsiter them, though UK TM law allows a six-month late renewal to existing holders. I assume that that means one cannot register a lapsed trademark in that period, though I could be wrong.

And money is involved.

Here y'go...

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tm.htm
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Post by Wieber » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:31 pm

"STAR & DESIGN"

That's the dreaded sea organization symbol, isn't it?
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Post by WhiteTrashMessiah » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:03 pm

Wieber wrote:"STAR & DESIGN"

That's the dreaded sea organization symbol, isn't it?
If you look at the extended information:
VIENNA INFORMATION:
Code Description
1.1.1 Stars
5.13.4 Crossed branches
It would appear that is, indeed, the case.
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Post by Vled » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:30 pm

So what you're saying is...that someone can register that logo for their company and then force Scientology to stop using it?

WTF?! Is this part of their big exit strategy or something?

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Post by Unlisted » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:25 pm

lack of funds?

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Post by Vled » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:30 pm

Yeah, it certainly does look pretty damning 'stats'wise doesn't it? :)

BUT, with all this buying up of real-estate and whatnot you'd think that DM would want to make sure that these stayed in place...UNLESS they are planning to seriously shrink their sphere of operations and create a die-hard core in the USA.

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survival strategy?

Post by venusian_traindriver » Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:59 pm

I posted this earlier in the body of another post ... but it could be relevant...

"When an organism is dying, or its survival is threatened, it withdraws life from its extremities, sacrificing them to concentrate in protecting its core, and other vital organs."

This looks like what is happening with co$, with reports of Australian orgs (in the extreme antipodes) moing out boxes of files, and now trademarks lapsing in other countries.

Maybe dainty dwarf is packing up all his suitcases of money, his soap-on a-rope, and hiring a bluebird motor home to travel in to trementina.... 8)

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Post by magoo1 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:18 pm

venusian_traindriver and crew

I love that! I think you just may be correct----time shall tell.

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Post by Don Carlo » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:19 pm

It's probably lack of staff and lack of training that allowed the trademark to lapse. Maybe the person renewing it in Canada has to be a Canadian citizen, and the leadership has all quit or been fired!

Or, the Canadian person forgot, and is ABOUT to be fired by an irate Miscavige! Congratulations, forgetful Canadian Scientologist! Your real life can now recommence.

My sense is CoS still has the money to renew these things.

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Post by elwood » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:30 pm

The Elronners can still renew the trademarks as long as someone doesn't beat them to the draw. It costs very little to file for a trademerk. Hint, hint.

Then one could theoretically prevent CoS from using them in the future.

Legal opinions, anyone?
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Post by Kallias » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:36 pm

Don Carlo wrote:It's probably lack of staff and lack of training that allowed the trademark to lapse. Maybe the person renewing it in Canada has to be a Canadian citizen, and the leadership has all quit or been fired!

Or, the Canadian person forgot, and is ABOUT to be fired by an irate Miscavige! Congratulations, forgetful Canadian Scientologist! Your real life can now recommence.

My sense is CoS still has the money to renew these things.
I'm not sure how it works in the UK and Canada, but at the firm I previously worked at we had a lot of clients with US trade marks (I'm in Australia). I believe you must appoint a US attorney if you're applying for a trade mark from a foreign country, and I'd say Canada is the same. If they were due to expire, the US attorney would receive notification months before the renewal date, and would notify our client (through us) that they needed to renew, or the trade mark would lapse.

So I'd guess the Canadian attorney has notified the client, and they've either been too busy to respond, or have decided to let the marks lapse for whatever reason. They're expensive, but not enough to risk losing the right to all their trade marks. I'd say they probably haven't got their shit together and are waiting until the last moment to lodge all the renewal documents.

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