My Escape From the Int Base...

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My Escape From the Int Base...

Post by BTs2Free » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:36 am

Just when you thought you heard the last of it all...

Things were not going well for John Peeler at the Int Base.

After 10, actually more years of dedicated service to Scientology, I had worked my way up through the rank to become an MAA at the Int Base - in fact Chief MAA Gold and then DePTSer of the entire base. For several years, at least 5, I was responsible for ensuring that no staff member on the base was PTS - including RTC personnel.

Do you know what that means?

I had access to all of the ethics files and PC folders of everyone on the Int Base, except for David Miscavige and Shelley (that was just part of the rules).

When I look back on all of this though, the difference between myself, and that goon Security Guard that you see in the Youtube videos, is that I actually cared for people and thought that I could help them out in their personal lives. My intention was not to keep them there if they wanted to leave, but to help them see why they should stay. In fact, my job was probably more dangerous than the average Joe Security Guard because my love was legitimate and would keep someone in the fold longer because of how real it was.

Regardless of all that, things got pretty bad for Peeler.

After a decade of being split away from his family (with literally only a week or two of visiting time with them in all), and after 4 years of being seperated from his wife (who was an RTC Rep at Flag - all the way across the freakin' country), John Peeler got busted from the Int TTC based on fabricated lies by Marty Rathbun in a report to David Miscavige which became the subject of an all Int Base briefing.

John Peeler after being an Int Base freakin' hero for years, now become low-life scum bag overnight, assigned to heavy labor and sec-checking for 6 months. (Mind you, this is now in a condition of being restricted to the base at OGH, behind razor wire fences with motion detectors, Security Guards and watch dogs.)

The sick part about this is that I still wanted to stay! I felt that the entire freakin' universe depended on what we did and what I did personally in Scientology to make it happen wold wide. All based on KSW Series 1.

After getting through this program, Peeler was assigned to the Galley with another mate named Winston Mellor. Our first assignment was to scrub out the galley dumpsters with green scrubbies (the kind you do your dishes with) until they were spottless.

Then, Peeler was assigned to being the Cleaner for the Mess Hall (Masacre Canyon Inn) and the restrooms. Basically, I was a Janitor and toilet scrubber.

Daily, executives from the base would pick fights with me and tell me that they were going to "kick my ass" or "fuck me up" because of how much I had betrayed the group.

David Miscavige visited me personally to tell me that I needed to confess all of my "crimes" to the group before I could be fully forgiven.

After all of this I said "Fuck IT!"

That was enough.

I realized that no matter how hard I tried or how hard I worked, what I produced would never be appreciated.

THIS, is the dillemma that every Scientologist, Staff Member and Sea Org Member goes through.

What you do and what you have given WILL NEVER BE ENOUGH.

I turned myself in.

I found the nearest MAA and told her that I was ready to route out. In other words, I was ready to leave the Sea Org for good. She was absolutely shocked. To her, I had been a hero for years, and now, I was giving up. In fact, she was once my junior. And believe me, I was a really good senior, I fought for my staff to have Libs (days off) and approved every CSW to be able to visit family. My staff loved me.

Here's where the going gets rough... For the next year and a half, I was restriced to the base. I was doing heavy labor, daily and getting interrogated, sometimes 6 hours a day, on the E-Meter. Being asked for my crimes against Scientology, Management, David Miscavige, Hubbard - You name it, it was asked.

Another person who was there with me was Twin A. She was there much longer than I had been there already and I was familiar with her case from a Security standpoint from my previous positions. I was worried about her and wondered what was happening with her. Why wasn't she back on post by now? Why hadn't they let her go by now? It had been a long time since she was being held where she was. I asked one of the Guards, Matt Butler what was up.

Here's the exact reply: "She worked with the old man, as well as close to DM, we're never going to let her leave."

The reason Matt said this, God bless his soul, is that he and I had been very closse buddies for many years, and I was probably an opinion leader to him. His wife had been one of my juniors. I had held long security watches with him in the past.

When Matt said that though...

The bell gonged.

It was time for Peeler to wake the fuck up.

They were never going to let me leave.

Peeler simply knew too much.

Peeler had been on too many sensitive lines.

After a couple months the dude came up with a brilliant plan. Why not pretend to be handled? Pretend that he wanted to stay at the Int Base , make amends and work back up to some sort of "respectable" position?

That's exeactly what I did.

I told my sec checker that I was handled and ready to go back on post. And in the back of my mind, I knew that this was complete bullshit. I was going to blow. And I was going to stay alert for the best time possible.

It took 6 months.

Six months more of sec checking, re-posting and getting through lower conditions until I was finally able to get my restriction to the base lifted. Until I was able to go back to my own room which was at the Vista Garden Apartments about 2 miles away from the base.

The post that I was finally assigned to was in Estates Gold as the Hardscape I/C. I was in charge of clearing away all of the weeds that would sprout up on the walkways of the base.

Here's where the brilliat plan set in. After a couple weeks of being "un-restricted", my senior Tom Pope (who I was replacing) told me that I needed to take the early bus back to berthing so that I could come in early so he could hat me (train me) on the "COB drill."

LOL!

If you knew what this meant now, you'd be laughing your fucking asses off

The COB Drill was to come in twice a week, very early in the morning to spray off David Miscavige's patios and de-weed anything if necessary.

I got an early pass home! Approved through Security. (Danny Dunagin - thanks for the pass bro!)

Anyway, after the buss dropped me off (with my bike). I can't believe Security was so lax!?!? I booked my ass to the nearest pay phone and called my mom collect.

Here's how it went... My sister answered the phone and I said "Hey, put mom on the phone, this is urgent."

"Okay!"

...

"Helo, John?!?!?!?"

"Mom, don't ask me anything right now. Just come and fucking get me. NOW!"

"Okay! Where do I go?"

...

At this point, I gave my mom exact directions to where I was at. It took her 2 hours to arrive.

She and my sister loaded all of my things into her car and I rode with them, with my sister on my lap all the way back to Los Angeles.

Major fail for Gold not having a QM on duty that night at berthing!

Major fail for the 4 RTC girls who were in the appartment accross from me when we were unloalding all of my shit from my room while I was blowing. They even had their kitchen window open and could see what was going on.

Anyway, it was a helluvan escape, and I'm so glad I made it so that I could tell you all about this now.

Cheers!
John
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Post by antiscn » Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:32 am

My god,it is so disturbing what people have to go through to try and escape that hellhole of Scientology.
It's so sad to think of people who are in there now goin through the exact same thing.Im sure security has probably tightened up and it's getting harder to escape..This is why we really need a MAJOR news network expose on this crap!!!!

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Post by Edward » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:17 pm

Their major fail is our major gain.

Thanks for sharing your story and for all your efforts to put things right.

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Post by NattyP » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:27 pm

Man, these f@ckin' escape from Gold stories are harrowing!!

Just glad you, Twin A, BFG, LBV and others made it out!!

Can't the state do "welfare checks" on those who have family at Gold about whom they're concerned??

John, if a cop or state adult welfare worker had come up to Int, got you alone during the year before you finally blew, and asked if you wanted to leave NOW, escorted by state law enforcement, would you have said "Yes"?

My question is:

Is the state of mind you were in before you blew, where you were playing along until you find the right moment, shared by many there? Could you talk about how you felt with anyone, or did you keep all your cards to your chest?

I guess ultimately, I wonder how many folks still remaining there feel exactly as you did? How many WANT to leave, but can't get out?

Would a carefully planned and executed mass "welfare check" by the state elicit a lot of Gold Base defectors?

Peace be with you, man. The courage and decency you and other exes have evinced in the face of the WORST of human nature has absolutely brought out the finest and best in you. I'm gaping of mouth and high of blood pressure when I read these stories.
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Post by Sunshine » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:58 pm

John:
It was a great escape, and thanks God you woke up of that insanity.
I hope the FBI is reading this post, because this Cult hold people against their will, and that is illegal.
I am so glad for you!
Welcome to the SP (Sane Person) world!
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Post by Gumbythetruth » Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:28 pm

THIS is why this WOG fights for truth!

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Post by fowimu » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:30 pm

[quote="NattyP"]

My question is:

Is the state of mind you were in before you blew, where you were playing along until you find the right moment, shared by many there? Could you talk about how you felt with anyone, or did you keep all your cards to your chest?

I guess ultimately, I wonder how many folks still remaining there feel exactly as you did? How many WANT to leave, but can't get out?

Would a carefully planned and executed mass "welfare check" by the state elicit a lot of Gold Base defectors?


I would like to know this too. John I'm so glad you are out!

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Post by Plups » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:40 pm

John, what a frightening story. I would also like to know the answers to NattyP's questions. Also, on what date did you escape?

Have you ever considered taking action for being deprived of your liberty? I know it's complicated but once you decided to leave you were no longer consenting...
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Post by charlottesometimes » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:42 pm

Wow, John. Just wow.

You escaped from a prison! I knew this already, of course, but knowing the exact details of how you *literally* had to escape (from a "religion"!), leaves no question that ithis organization is systematically, illegally, and unjustly depriving people of their basic human rights.

Thank you John (and Jason B., BFG, Marc H, LBV, Twin A, et al) for coming forward and putting your stories out there. This shit has to stop, and I'm so grateful to you for your part in helping to that end. I'm so glad you're here with us.

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Post by charlottesometimes » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:43 pm

double post. Nothing to see here. lalala.
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Post by Bea Kiddo » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:45 pm

fowimu wrote:
NattyP wrote:
My question is:

Is the state of mind you were in before you blew, where you were playing along until you find the right moment, shared by many there? Could you talk about how you felt with anyone, or did you keep all your cards to your chest?

I guess ultimately, I wonder how many folks still remaining there feel exactly as you did? How many WANT to leave, but can't get out?

Would a carefully planned and executed mass "welfare check" by the state elicit a lot of Gold Base defectors?


I would like to know this too. John I'm so glad you are out!
BTs2Free may answer this more, especially about the Gold Base, but I can give general answer (I was never at Gold Base, I was at Big Blue and at CCI).

I can tell you that about 20-30 percent have lingering and repeated doubts about being in the Sea Org. Its not enough (doubt) to make them leave.

And no, they do not talk about it with other Sea Org members, except specific people who's job it is to deal with that (called the "Ethics Officer"). To talk to any other Sea Org member about one's desire to leave is a Suppressive Act and one could get an SP declare for it. Yep. You read that right.

And about blowing: I had thought about blowing many times. Actually, I did blow a couple of times. In most cases, I "came to my senses" and returned to the base. I didnt want to get SP declared for blowing. Plus I had nowhere to go. They keep your passport locked away, you know?

The other thing, and this is purely opinion, is that I think there are many many of them that are sick of the conditions and life style and want to leave. But when asked, they would say they want to stay. Because they are dedicated to the CAUSE that Scino claims, not to the actual beliefs. This is where I can see that brainwashing has occured. And they dont see it whatsoever as brainwashing. To them, it was THEY (themselves) who realized this was the way out and signed up. But I think they have to work at it to keep that little fairy tale idea going.
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Post by daisy » Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:49 pm

BTs2Free:
After all of this I said "Fuck IT!"

That was enough.

I realized that no matter how hard I tried or how hard I worked, what I produced would never be appreciated.

THIS, is the dillemma that every Scientologist, Staff Member and Sea Org Member goes through.

What you do and what you have given WILL NEVER BE ENOUGH.
Here's to freedom, John. So glad the breaking point came to you.

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Post by BenFranklinGirl » Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:31 pm

This is why the protests having NOTHING to do with religiuous beliefs. Denying Constitutional rights is NOT a religious belief. It is illegal. Period.

I think it needs to be drummed home agin and again and again that this movement is not about religion, it's about THE LAW.
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Post by J. Swift » Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:44 pm

John, I am so glad that you are in the world. You are still a hero, in fact you are a much larger hero outside of Scientology than you ever were inside. One thing the Cult never stripped you of was your humanity. If I were the King, I would give you a Coat of Arms and name you John the Lionhearted.

One reason I do this work is because I have seen how Scientology twists people into knots, strips them of their humanity, and reduces them to that unique Scientology state of a concealed and fearful obedience masked by a surface cheerfulness. All of this is called Theta, which is nothing more than fearful group think and an agreement to pretend that everything is okay when it is clearly not. Everyone in Scientology is given a reason to lie about how things are. SO has to lie so that the Staff feels better. The Staff has to lie to the publics so the publics feel better. The publics lie to management so that management feels better.

No one in Scientology ever calls a meeting and says, "Okay, how do all of us really feel about how badly things are going? How many of you are in despair about being perpetually broke and in debt? How many of you OT's are having health problems or other problems that Scientology is cannot possible handle? How many of you are living a lie everyday in which you keep pretending and hoping that you will be Free and Enlightened someday if only (fill in the blank)?"

*****
What is rewarding about this work is that just when you feel like giving up, you meet John Peeler. You meet someone who has suffered and yet who survived a profound ordeal. You meet John and he is happy, He is there and he is present when he talks to you. You realize that while Scientology can crush the human spirit, the Cult can never kill the spirit.

John, you are a hero to me. I am glad that you are out here in the world speaking freely.

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Post by brownjedi » Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:49 pm

John, it is amazing how the cult required you and others to "route out" I consider that false imprisonment. Actually what you went through before was false imprisonment as well, but it is much more so after a person has asked to leave and are required to stay and submit to that treatment. Glad that you are out and I hope you get some national exposure, write a book, or a screenplay or something!

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