"Germany: Neo-Nazies vs Scientology in September?"

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"Germany: Neo-Nazies vs Scientology in September?"

Post by Sponge » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:04 pm

Edit: SCROLL DOWN PAST THIS SHITTY ARTICLE FOR THE EPIC STUFF :)

Faux webnews site "American Chronical" vomited up this today...
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/72407

I'm not putting this in the media section because it isn't really media. I think the author thinks it is but it's really just a pile of insane ranting buffoonery. The site specialises in publishing articles from nutjobs like this.

Here's a snippet.
The early efforts of Anonymous were aimed at hacking Scientology websites, doing denial of service attacks and other hostile online (and illegal) exploits. The group has moved away from these original hackers known by the new generation as "Old Fags." The new generation is broken into cells with a few coordinating committees that remain behind the scenes and unknown even to most members. Those committees seem to be backed financially from Germany – some no doubt from Caberta, but some from unknown, and likely neo-Nazi, sources. This because, as the upcoming conference nears, Anonym websites display their connections to both Caberta and the past with appeals to heritage, blood, honor, and a call to attend the conference.
I'll be writing to Ursula Caberta and the neo-nazis to demand my paycheque then :lol: or maybe I'll have to go through a seekrit cell LOL :lol:

More info on this faked anon-nazi connection here...
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media ... ion-27372/
and here...
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media ... ber-27338/

Edit: By the way the latest conference details are here:
http://forums.whyweprotest.net/7-genera ... urg-23736/

Ms. Caberta's Task Force Scientology in Hamburg is organizing the information event "THAT IS SCIENTOLOGY! - Reports from the USA" on the 4th of September taking place in
Handwerkskammer Hamburg, Holstenwall 12
from 5pm to 8pm.

Anonymous is invited and we do not have to give our names if showing up with the mask. However - we should give numbers of the expected turnout beforehand. So please write here and private message me if you're gonna come or not.

Now to the juicy part, the program:

Opening of the event
- Dr. Stefan Schulz, member of the privy council of the Ministry of the Interior

Introductory comments
- Ursula Caberta, director of the Taskforce Scientology of the ministry of the interior

How the judicial system of the USA is getting used and abused by the Scientology Organisation
- Graham Berry, lawyer from the USA

The System Scientology - Basic principles and goals for worldwide expansion of the organisation
- Larry Brennan, high-ranking dropout from the SO, USA.

Why and how you become a Scientologist and why one quits again - personal experiences with the System Scientology.
- Jason Beghe, Actor, Dropout from Scientology Organisation / Celebrity Org, USA

The international management levels of the Scientology Organisation in the USA - A look behind the scenes of the Scientology headquarters
- Mark Headley, Dropout from the Scientology Organisation USA

Afterwards there is lots of room for questions and discussions.

*note: above links to the old enturb forum changed to wwp links. If you see any other old enturbulation.org links in this thread then simply replace that part of the URL with whyweprotest.net and it will still work.
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Post by Edward » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:18 pm

LOL - lame, very lame

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Post by Sponge » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:46 pm

Note the author "Diane Rose", a supposed "canididate" for a Ph.D in Policital Science (UNLV), hasn't published any other articles on any subject on that site. I suppose there's a first time for everything, even bastshit kookery. Well, unless the dribbling Ms.Rose is going to do some fact checking and control her jerking knee then she aint gonna get a Ph.D. in anything, especially not "Political Science".

It is going to be absolutely hilarious if this is the start of things to come from the cult, especially in Germany of all places.

Some recent history...
This is how scientology greeted Ursula Caberta at the airport when she visited the Lisa McPherson Trust in Clearwater, FL in 2000 (raw footage plus Fox news coverage)....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4jIU8kVs88

Here is a recent interview of Ursula Caberta by Anonymous....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqQDo_4gdwA <part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Im9y0lO-g <part2


Here is a sneek preview of the new German documentary featuring scientology and its critics....

Teaser of the documentary, meant for press only. Anon Delivers.....
Der gesäuberte Planet. Eine Reise ins Innere der Scientology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZDllt_cTPw
Full DVD release is expected October.
Michael Pattinson and Tory are in it as well as Ursula.

English transcript...
Anonymous delivers: raw translation of the teaser posted by str.


Title: The cleared planet – a journey into Scientology

Sabine Weber (vicepresident Scientology Germany): Scientology is about spirituality. It's about redemption. It's about understanding who you really are, where do I come from, where do I go to, who or what is God, am I immortal, can I know whether I am immortal yes or no – we postulate a yes, and that's why we see ourselves as a spiritual community, a church.

Wilfried Handl (ex-Scientologist): Scientology sees illness, how shall I put it, as a suppressive act, so, someone who is ill must have done something bad, for which he has gone ill. So anoyone who is ill or is handicapped must have done something wrong. Scientology has no mercy.

Ralf Gerhardt (Scientologist): So the people who I know and who practice Scienology, and I know hundreds of them, myself, family-members, these people are more successfull, they make more money, they have more things, they have happier families.

Ursula Caberta (leader of the “Arbeitsgruppe Scientology”, a German group that observes the cult on behalf of the German government): Scientology is an organisation that is hostile against our constitution. It's a totalitarian system that has built up a parallel world in Germany and other countries around the world. That is Scientology.

[...]

(Continues at 2:05)

Sabine Weber (vicepresident Scientology Germany): Here it is all about the soul, here it is all about immortality of the soul, here it is all about the questions, the eternal questions of mankind: where do I come from, where do I go to, what is the use of my existence, who or what is God, and these questions are being given an answer in Scientology.

Sabine Weber (vicepresident Scientology Germany continues): I think the most important pronouncement, for me personally but also for may Scientologists, is the immortality. That one knows, one is eternal, that one knows, one is a spiritual being, that one knows one bears a responsibility for one's environment and one's fellow human beings, and being sure one will return to this world they naturally try to make this world a better place.

[...]

(Continues at 3:14)

Ursula Caberta (leader of the “Arbeitsgruppe Scientology”): Hubbard's basic principle is that there are only two kinds of people: Scientologists, and non-Scientologists. Only Scientologists have rights in the society, only Scientologists are allowed to administer justice over others, that's how it is. So it's a kind of “Über-Mensch”. I believe especially in Germany we know what it means when such an ideology takes over.

[...]

(Continues at 4:18 )

Wilfried Handl (ex-Scientologist): In Scientology there is a kind of black-and-white-thinking. Hubbard writes very decisive about cowboys with white hats and cowboys with black hats, and the cowboys with black hats are the enemies, the opposed opinions. One can, as far as I can speak about it from my own experience, say that these are not being spared. I can easily imagine that these will be shot. And there are those who are [not understandabe for me] about whom Scientology will say that they are confused, being led by false influences. So then I would say that, what I can imagine myself, these are being sent to camps to be re-educated.

[...]

(Continues at 5:17)

Ralf Gerhardt (Scientologist): Quite simple things, it's not that complicated at all. For example how to communicate, or how to administer financial things, or how to keep a job. So daily problems that one has, one can learn about and study about in Scientology. I have studied it, I have tried it, and I must say that I am in for 20 years now, and it works.

Tory Christman; no translation needed.

Nadja (Sea Org member): The goal “clear the world” or “clear the planet” is about aiming to every individual person and helping him or her to get to a higher level of consciousness. That's what it is all about. One has to do this for every individual.

Michael Pattinson, no translation needed.

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Post by allergic to shellfish » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:58 pm

The added Google ad's at the top of the article add a touch of humourous irony.
First two are for CO$, then featured is a website for Venetian masks!! Kinkyangel.co.uk (although other mask websites are available).
If you scroll along the featured ad's they are all either religious type websites or mask shops.
Looking forward to the day when manhole covers appear in that selection.

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Post by JohnS » Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:33 am

Uh oh, they may be on to something here. Is this what they're
expecting?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGSBF9JPVXw&NR=1

This is PROOF of what they intend to to DMs "Basics" Books!
(Almost too horrible to imagine!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4_j4c7Bop0

And, here they are secretly practicing for their assault
on Gold Base Hemet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnlHHHo8DHo

Finally the smug anonymous bastards prematurely celebrate their
"victory" over the most able beings on the planet. HA HA,
little do they know of DM's mighty Sea Org and dedicated
OT super powers!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMGLq-Hj ... re=related

We should thank and praise DM for uncovering this plot
in time!

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Post by J. Swift » Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:52 am

The new Cult term for former Scientologists is "drop out" as if to suggest that Scientology were somehow educational in nature and that people "drop out" of Scientology due to some sort of deficiency in them:
The conference is not just for Germans. Skirting German law, the conference is an international one that will feature several American speakers including: attorney Graham Berry, actor Jason Beghe, and Scientology drop outs Larry Brennan and Mark Headley.
It is interesting to note that the author of this turgid rag of an article cites Mark Headley and Larry Brennan are "drop outs" but not actor Jason Beghe. Why the inconsistency?

As for "dropping out" of Scientology, well, that is the smartest life choice that anyone could ever make. Dropping out of Scientology means that one has dropped out of slavery and has enrolled themselves into Sanity and Freedom.

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The rabid, mentally ill Cult of Scientology has finally realized that the elegant word "Apostate" is actually a compliment and has now apparently stopped using the word for former Scientologists. There are no more Scientology apostates; there are now only Scientology drop outs. I wonder what PR moron thought of this approach? Perhaps some moron at The Hubbard College?

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Speaking of "Drop Outs," the Lunatic, Master Race Cult of Scientology is led by two High School Drop Outs who like to pretend that the "Sea Org" is an actual military organization:

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Post by Little Bear Victor » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:28 am

J. Swift wrote:...
The rabid, mentally ill Cult of Scientology has finally realized that the elegant word "Apostate" is actually a compliment and has now apparently stopped using the word for former Scientologists. There are no more Scientology apostates; there are now only Scientology drop outs. I wonder what PR moron thought of this approach? Perhaps some moron at The Hubbard College?
Swifty,

Which one of the high-school apostates do you think came up with this one?

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Post by probity » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:54 am

J. Swift wrote:It is interesting to note that the author of this turgid rag of an article cites Mark Headley and Larry Brennan are "drop outs" but not actor Jason Beghe. Why the inconsistency?
Perhaps the author is drawing a fine distinction between Scientologists and Sea Org members, reserving the "drop out" for Sea Org departures.

Speaking of drop outs, what of Scientologist drop out L. Ron Hubbard, who never admitted to failing miserably at University?

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Post by Peter Schilte » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:33 pm

Somewhere Diane Rose says:
For example, Dr. Erich Geldbach was denied a position at Protestant Theological Faculty of the Ruhr University Bochum, a state university in North Rhine-Westphalia, because he was Baptist.*
Dr Erich Geldbach was from 1997 until his emeritae professor at this Faculty! So the bitch lied. As the Baptist Church was not affiliated with the EKD (Evangelic Church of Germany) they even had to do some changes to make it possible for Geldbach to get this position!
It can be found here, though in German:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Geldbach

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Post by newclear » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:19 pm

I looked at some of the webpages referenced in the article. The Nazi stuff was clearly photoshopped. What a bunch of amateurs. I really hate how the church / OSA / the author of this article lies. Oops, I forgot it's "telling an acceptable truth". A lie must not be a lie if it produces the greatest good for the greatest number of duhnamics.
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Post by Little Bear Victor » Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:40 am

This is taking place in ten hours.

My "intel" told me Tommy Davis and 15 other OSA goons are there to "handle" the situation. Hope Tommy will give some more TV interviews, that could only help matters (for us, not for him). I have a distinct feeling that whatever is left of Tommy's Sea Org career, 50% of it will be spent in personalized ethics handlings and the other 50% in failed attempts to handle problems that have grown totally out of control for him or anyone else in OSA to deal with.

Oh, I just got a brilliant idea for OSA: Why not dress up as neo-nazis, infiltrate the Anon crowd and start some trouble, to prove the neo-nazi connection? (You can bet that if DM said those exact words, they would indeed think it was brilliant and would do it!)

Hope we get a report from the place.
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Post by Sponge » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:46 am

Srsly LBV? Tommy Davis? Hahahahaha!

Chargin' up the John Sweeney Death Ray, Captain....
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This just in from field reporter on location in Germany

Post by Little Bear Victor » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:32 am

I just received the following report from Germany.

"The following people have arrived here in Germany to attempt to stop the planned proceedings: Tommy Davis, Ken Moxon, Mitch Brisker, Jessica Rodriguez, Bill Walsh and Monique Yingling along with full support personnel. They filed a motion to stop the proceedings. That was rejected. Then they filed a motion to be invited to the proceedings. That is still with courts. It appears that Mitch, Tommy and Rodriguez would like speak if the lawyers can swing it.
Whatever they are trying to do it seems they are VERY worried about this meeting. Dave Miscavige is reportedly running them directly and this is top top priority. Jason Beghe, Graham Berry, Larry Brennan and Mark Headly have been completely unreachable as they have police escorting them everywhere including guards at their rooms whether they are there or not. It is very difficult to gain access to them as of yet."
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Post by Little Bear Victor » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:00 am

"Last court appeal was just rejected by the court."

(At this point we are getting the data here faster than Tommy Davis is over there, so OSA, you better tune in. Yes, you can the first to tell Tommy boy the good news.)
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Post by Little Bear Victor » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:16 am

"Looks like two hired PIs from the States might have been made by Germans. Were reported to be on same flight from US as Beghe, Headley and Berry and trying to get into same hotel."
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